Is it important for Children to be safe and for justice to be served?

[RileyG]

It's ok so long as they step outside after hearing the confession and confront them over what they just heard? What then is the issue with mandatory reporting? It would take place outside the confessional.

If it’s outside the context of confession, it could be reported. Anything the priest hears in confession cannot be repeated to another person under any circumstances. Period.

 

[Hans Blaster]

As soon as they confess go out and confront them. Boom. Caught a diddler- go to police. Done.

It seems @Larniavc that some don't understand that you seem to be clearly referring to the confessor priest confronting the "diddler" outside the confession booth in a public place right after the confession in the booth.

 

[Desk trauma]

If it’s outside the context of confession, it could be reported. Anything the priest hears in confession cannot be repeated to another person under any circumstances. Period.

Yet you're ok with that priest stepping outside the confessional, confronting the confessor and reporting them to the police?

 

[RileyG]

Yet you're ok with that priest stepping outside the confessional, confronting the confessor and reporting them to the police?

Why not?

 

[durangodawood]

If it’s outside the context of confession, it could be reported. Anything the priest hears in confession cannot be repeated to another person under any circumstances. Period.

Seems a little absolute if you hear of intent to do harm to others.

 

[RileyG]

Seems a little absolute if you hear of intent to do harm to others.

There’s an old saying. You cannot shock a priest in the confessional. I’m sure he’s heard everything many times over….

 

[Desk trauma]

Why not?

That would strip out that whole anonymous confession you were so concerned with preserving and involve the priest speaking to others about what they head in confession.

 

[RileyG]

That would strip out that who anonymous confession you were so concerned with preserving and involve the priest speaking to others about what they head in confession.

Again, context is everything. But I doubt predators would confess to begin with.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yet you're ok with that priest stepping outside the confessional, confronting the confessor and reporting them to the police?

And you said:

Why not?

Because this is *EXACTLY* what the Washington law requires. (OK, the burst out of the booth and confront in public part, not so much, but it is functionally the same.)

 

[Desk trauma]

Again, context is everything. But I doubt predators would confess to begin with.

Priest hears confession about sexual abuse of a child, gets up walks outside the confessional and confronts the confessor then calls the cops about what they just heard. The person is identified, the confession is spoken about, that is the situation being described. If you're ok with all that what is the issue with making that mandatory?

 

[RileyG]

Priest hears confession about sexual abuse of a child, gets up walks outside the confessional and confronts the confessor then calls the cops about what they just heard. The person is identified, the confession is spoken about, that is the situation being described. If you're ok with all that what is the issue with making that mandatory?

If it happens inside confession and no confrontation occurs, it cannot be reported because the sacrament is anonymous.

 

[RileyG]

And you said:

Because this is *EXACTLY* what the Washington law requires. (OK, the burst out of the booth and confront in public part, not so much, but it is functionally the same.)

The sacrament itself is anonymous, again. The bill won’t pass SCOTUS because it’s attacking the faithful.

 

[Desk trauma]

If it happens inside confession and no confrontation occurs, it cannot be reported because the sacrament is anonymous.

How does it remain anonymous when the priest confronts the person there after connecting what was said to them and calling the police?

 

[RileyG]

How does it remain anonymous when the priest confronts the person there after connecting what was said to them and calling the police?

….because the actual confession already taken place? It’s finished.

I have nothing further to add.

 

[Desk trauma]

….because the actual confession already taken place? It’s finished.

And no longer anonymous and the content of it is being reported to the police,.

 

[RileyG]

And no longer anonymous and the content of it is being reported to the police,.

Ok! I understand the confusion. That was my fault.

Peace

 

[Desk trauma]

Ok! I understand the confusion. That was my fault.

Then you are actually opposed to the situation described in post 28?

 

[RileyG]

Then you are actually opposed to the situation described in post 28?

I mean? I doubt it would occur in the first place. If others were around, it would be a blatant violation of the seal, so in that case, yes.

 

[Larniavc]

It’s still an attack against the faithful since confession as a sacrament is anonymous.

It won’t pass in SCOTUS regardless

What is more important: the safety of a child or the anonymity of a sacrament?

 

[Larniavc]

The sacrament itself is anonymous, again. The bill won’t pass SCOTUS because it’s attacking the faithful.

It’s only attacking faithful paedophiles by that logic. Is that really what you mean?