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Greetings, my dearly beloved Catholic friends, from an Orthodox Christian who supports reunification.
I wanted to ask you what your level of familiarity was with different Roman Catholic and Eastern Catholic liturgical texts. Specifically, how many of you have read the following (in either vernacular translations or in the original languages such as Latin, Greek, Coptic, Syriac and Church Slavonic):
What I love most about the Roman Catholic church is the liturgical diversity; some priests have multi-ritual faculties and are able to celebrate the mass in multiple rites; for example, in Los Angeles, where a rare Armenian Catholic church exists, a local Roman Rite priest learned Classical Armenian so he could celebrate the mass at that parish on the frequent occasions when they are unable to find an Armenian priest. The Armenian Catholics used to be the largest sui juris Eastern Catholic Church, but the Genocide of 1915 and the subsequent persecutions after the Soviet conquest of Armenia resulted in them becoming the smallest, although they do have a lovely monastery in Venice (and their own religious order, the Mechitarist Fathers; unfortunately in the Armenian Apostolic Church there are very few operational monasteries other than those connected with the main cathedrals in Holy Etchmiadzin, Lebanon (the headquarters of the other worldwide Armenian jurisdiction, led by the Catholicos of the Great House of Cilicia, which owes its existence to the time when there were two Armenian kingdoms simultaneously, and its growth to mistrust of the church headquartered in Armenia after the Soviet conquest of it), Jerusalem (where there is an Armenian Cathedral that also supports the Armenian liturgical activity at the Holy Sepulchre, where along with the Greeks and the Franciscans they are one of the three main groups, and also are responsible for supervising the other Oriental Orthodox), and in Bethlehem at the Church of the Nativity (which like the Holy Sepulchre, is jointly operated by the Franciscan Brotherhood of the Holy Cross, that if i recall was given charge of the pilgrimage sites in the Holy Land centuries ago, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem and Armenians).
Also I’d be interested in any information on prayer books you are using in your personal devotional life.
As a gift of fellowship to my Catholic brethren to commemorate the election of Pope Leo XIV and the 1700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, I will do everything in my power to make my vast library of Roman Catholic liturgical books and hymnals available and to help Roman Catholics who wish to find certain liturgical books to do so.
Please pray for me, a sinner who is in ill health.
I wanted to ask you what your level of familiarity was with different Roman Catholic and Eastern Catholic liturgical texts. Specifically, how many of you have read the following (in either vernacular translations or in the original languages such as Latin, Greek, Coptic, Syriac and Church Slavonic):
- The current version of the Roman Missal, including the propers for Years A, B and C of the lectionary, and the various options for the service available to priests? Either in concert with, or instead of, the disposable Missalettes issued by various music publishers that are pre-arranged for the liturgical calendar of each year?
- The General Instructions for the Roman Missal (GIRM), the book of rubrics controlling how it is to be used (sort of like the old Ordo of the Breviary and the General Rubrics of the old Missal, and the Byzantine Rite Typikon, and the Armenian Rite Directory.
- The complete Liturgy of the Hours, including proper lessons (which are primarily for the Office of Readings, formerly Matins).
- On a related note, how many of you have attended a service from the Liturgy of the Hours such as the Office of Readings, Lauds, Midday Prayer, Vespers or Compline in person? And how many of you attend churches where these are regularly available?
- Any edition of the Tridentine Missal (1962 or earlier) or other Extraordinary Form Missal (such as the 1959 Dominican Rite Missal)?
- Any Extraordinary Form Breviary, such as the 1967 Dominican Rite Breviary or the Monastic Breviary in its 1517, 1930 or other recensions, or the Tridentine breviary, or the version revised by St. Pius X?
- A traditional Roman Rite hymnal (some of which are still used with the current missal), such as the Graduale Romanum, or a hymnal issued by a ltiurigcally conservative diocese such as the Diocese of Pere Marquette, or a traditional hymnal used by multiple dioceses such as the Lumen Christie hymnal used by the Diocese of Madison?
- Any missal or breviary from a less common Traditional Latin Mass version still in use, such as the aforementioned Dominican Rite, or the Use of Lyons, the Use of Braga, the Use of Cologne, or the four ancient English uses (Sarum, York, Durham and Hereford? Or the missals and breviaries of religious orders that either had their own breviary, like the Benedictines and Cistercians (whose breviaries are different from each other), or both their own breviary and missal (such as the Dominicans ( also used by the Order of St. Vincent Ferrer), Carthusians, Carmelites, and Norbertines (Premonstratensians)?
- Any missal or breviary from a non-Roman Western Rite, either in its pre-Vatican II or post-Vatican II form (among the two surviving rites, the Ambrosian and Mozarabic Rites); there are also the extinct Gallican Rite and Beneventan Rite); all of these are variants of the ancient Gallican Rite or in the case of the Ambrosian Rite, a hybrid of Gallican, Roman, Byzantine and indigenous Milanese influence, dating back to the vigil St. Ambrose had in his cathedral in 386 AD, where he introduced Greek-style antiphonal hymns to keep high the spirits of his flock?
- Any version of the Ritual or Pontificale, which include instructions for sacraments and other services like baptisms, extreme unction and funerals and in the case of Pontificals, sacraments and other services such as Confirmation, Ordination, the consecration of churches, etc).
- Any Byzantine Rite Catholic liturgical text, such as the Divine Liturgy, the Horologian (which contains the common parts of the missal), the Horologion (containing the invariant parts of the Liturgy of the Hours), the Euchologion (containing services one would otherwise find in the Ritual or Pontifical) or the books containing the propers, such as the Octoechos, the Festal Menaion (important fixed feasts throughout the year (the Nativity of the Theotokos, the Feast of the Holy Cross, the Entry of the Virgin Mary into the Temple, Christmas, the Baptism of Christ, Candlemas, the Annunciation, the Feast of the Apostles St. Peter and Paul which we just celebrated, the Transfiguration and the Assumption? Or the Monthly Menaion, whiich has all the propers for the fixed feasts? Or the Triodion and the Pentecostarion, which contain propers for Lent and Holy Week, and the period from Pascha through All Saints Day (which in the Byzantine Rite is the first Sunday after Pentecost rather than November 1st; there are multiple Soul Saturdays as well starting in the pre-Lenten period). Some Eastern Catholic churches (and Orthodox churches) have consolidated all of these into volumes that make them easier to access, such as the Ruthenian Greek Catholic Hymnal, the “Nasser Five Pounder” and other titles (one common one being Anthologion). There is also the Typikon, which ties it all together liturgically.
- Any non—Byzantine Rite Eastern Catholic liturgical books, such as the current version of the Missal of the Maronite Catholics, or of the Chaldean Catholics, of which English translations exist, or other rites where I’m not sure if English translations exist or not, such as the Syriac Catholics, Coptic Catholics, Ethiopian Catholics, etc.
- The service books of the Anglican Ordinariates, such as the Book of Divine Worship? (the name of which I really liked, as it represented the ideal of the Ordinariates, that of Anglo Catholicism but with all negative residual traces of the iconoclastic English Reformation expurgated).
What I love most about the Roman Catholic church is the liturgical diversity; some priests have multi-ritual faculties and are able to celebrate the mass in multiple rites; for example, in Los Angeles, where a rare Armenian Catholic church exists, a local Roman Rite priest learned Classical Armenian so he could celebrate the mass at that parish on the frequent occasions when they are unable to find an Armenian priest. The Armenian Catholics used to be the largest sui juris Eastern Catholic Church, but the Genocide of 1915 and the subsequent persecutions after the Soviet conquest of Armenia resulted in them becoming the smallest, although they do have a lovely monastery in Venice (and their own religious order, the Mechitarist Fathers; unfortunately in the Armenian Apostolic Church there are very few operational monasteries other than those connected with the main cathedrals in Holy Etchmiadzin, Lebanon (the headquarters of the other worldwide Armenian jurisdiction, led by the Catholicos of the Great House of Cilicia, which owes its existence to the time when there were two Armenian kingdoms simultaneously, and its growth to mistrust of the church headquartered in Armenia after the Soviet conquest of it), Jerusalem (where there is an Armenian Cathedral that also supports the Armenian liturgical activity at the Holy Sepulchre, where along with the Greeks and the Franciscans they are one of the three main groups, and also are responsible for supervising the other Oriental Orthodox), and in Bethlehem at the Church of the Nativity (which like the Holy Sepulchre, is jointly operated by the Franciscan Brotherhood of the Holy Cross, that if i recall was given charge of the pilgrimage sites in the Holy Land centuries ago, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem and Armenians).
Also I’d be interested in any information on prayer books you are using in your personal devotional life.
As a gift of fellowship to my Catholic brethren to commemorate the election of Pope Leo XIV and the 1700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, I will do everything in my power to make my vast library of Roman Catholic liturgical books and hymnals available and to help Roman Catholics who wish to find certain liturgical books to do so.
Please pray for me, a sinner who is in ill health.