Most Christians say they would never vote for a Democrat, poll finds

[Michie]

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and would never vote for a Democrat, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that there is a path to win over voters of faith.

The progressive Evangelical advocacy group Vote Common Good released the survey documenting the views of Christian voters on a wide variety of issues, including their views on the two major political parties. The poll surveyed 1,761 Christian voters from May 6-11 and was conducted by Change Research, whose clients often include Democratic politicians. The sample contained a margin of error of +/-3 percentage points.

The full results of the poll, shared with Time Magazine, suggest that 75% of Christian voters have little to no trust in the Democratic Party. Similarly, 62% of Christian voters surveyed insisted that they would never vote for a Democrat, 58% characterized the Democratic Party as hostile to Christianity and 54% believed that Democratic voters were hostile to Christianity.

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Most Christians have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, poll finds

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and would never vote for a Democrat, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that

www.christianpost.com

 

[jas3]

58% characterized the Democratic Party as hostile to Christianity and 54% believed that Democratic voters were hostile to Christianity.

The only surprising thing about this result is that these numbers aren't higher.

 

[JosephZ]

From the article in the OP:

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and would never vote for a Democrat, a new poll suggests...

"The full results of the poll, shared with Time Magazine, suggest that 75% of Christian voters have little to no trust in the Democratic Party. Similarly, 62% of Christian voters surveyed insisted that they would never vote for a Democrat..."

It appears the Christian Post has misinterpreted the Time magazine article. The 62% of Christians that say they will never vote for a Democrat, are from the 50% of Christians that say religion is losing influence in American life.

From the linked Time magazine article:

"Pagitt’s survey finds a full 50% of Christians say religion is losing influence in American life. And 60% of these Christian voters say they reliably back Republicans; 62% say they would never consider voting for a Democrat."

And from Vote Common Good:

"In our nationwide poll of Christian voters, over 80% said they were willing to vote for a Democrat. 80%. And yet the left spends almost no time courting them."

 

[JosephZ]

I sent an email to Vote Common Good and Christainity Today pointing out the error earlier today and the headline and article found in the OP have since been updated.

Most Christians have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, poll finds

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and believe the party is hostile to the faith, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that there is a path to win over voters of faith.

The progressive Evangelical advocacy group Vote Common Good released the survey documenting the views of Christian voters on a wide variety of issues, including their views on the two major political parties. The poll surveyed 1,761 Christian voters from May 6-11 and was conducted by Change Research, whose clients often include Democratic politicians. The sample contained a margin of error of +/-3 percentage points.

The full results of the poll, shared with Time Magazine, suggest that 75% of Christian voters have little to no trust in the Democratic Party.

The data shows that half (50%) of Christians believe religion is losing influence in American life, with 62% of those Christians saying they would never consider voting for a Democrat.

Most Christians have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, poll finds

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and would never vote for a Democrat, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that

www.christianpost.com

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[Yarddog]

I sent an email to Vote Common Good and Christainity Today pointing out the error earlier today and the headline and article found in the OP have since been updated.

Most Christians have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, poll finds

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and believe the party is hostile to the faith, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that there is a path to win over voters of faith.

The progressive Evangelical advocacy group Vote Common Good released the survey documenting the views of Christian voters on a wide variety of issues, including their views on the two major political parties. The poll surveyed 1,761 Christian voters from May 6-11 and was conducted by Change Research, whose clients often include Democratic politicians. The sample contained a margin of error of +/-3 percentage points.

The full results of the poll, shared with Time Magazine, suggest that 75% of Christian voters have little to no trust in the Democratic Party.

The data shows that half (50%) of Christians believe religion is losing influence in American life, with 62% of those Christians saying they would never consider voting for a Democrat.

Most Christians have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, poll finds

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and would never vote for a Democrat, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that

www.christianpost.com

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It's a lot closer among us Catholics.

 

[Tuur]

Three things:

1. Without the actual poll and results, it may mean how JosephZ interprets it or it may not.

2. The historic divide among Evangelicals has been roughly aligned with race. Years ago, most white Evangelicals tended to vote Republican and most black Evangelicals tended to vote Democrat. I'm not convinced there's been a huge change here, though have seen some dissatisfaction with the Democrats going back decades among black Evangelicals. As a case in point, when one state politician equated a liberal plank with the Civil Rights Movement, several black ministers who were involved in the Civil Rights Movement paid him a visit and told him that it wasn't.

3. One can distrust a political party and still vote against the other party. One can even come to loath it and still vote against the other party. This is particularly true if there's a habit of doing that.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and would never vote for a Democrat, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that there is a path to win over voters of faith.

The progressive Evangelical advocacy group Vote Common Good released the survey documenting the views of Christian voters on a wide variety of issues, including their views on the two major political parties. The poll surveyed 1,761 Christian voters from May 6-11 and was conducted by Change Research, whose clients often include Democratic politicians. The sample contained a margin of error of +/-3 percentage points.

The full results of the poll, shared with Time Magazine, suggest that 75% of Christian voters have little to no trust in the Democratic Party. Similarly, 62% of Christian voters surveyed insisted that they would never vote for a Democrat, 58% characterized the Democratic Party as hostile to Christianity and 54% believed that Democratic voters were hostile to Christianity.

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Most Christians have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, poll finds

Most Christians in the United States have little to no trust in the Democratic Party and would never vote for a Democrat, a new poll suggests, as liberal Christian advocates remain confident that

www.christianpost.com

I, on the other hand, do trust the Democrats to be wrong. They purposefully get it wrong.

As they are now, I would never knowingly vote for a Democrat. I would have voted for Dan Lipinski who was a Democrat, but they primaried him out of the Democratic Party. Nobody left who I could vote for.

The Democratic Party IS hostile to Christianity. And that has filtered down to most Democratic Party members who are hostile to Christianity.

Not that I'm thrilled with the Republicans. I tried them out for several years, and until Trump I was able to be a part of that Party. Now I'm out of both the big parties.

 

[JosephZ]

1. Without the actual poll and results, it may mean how JosephZ interprets it or it may not.

I received confirmation via email that the Christian Post's reporting was in error when it stated that "most Christians would never vote for a Democrat" and "62% say they would never consider voting for a Democrat." The writer of the article has since edited the article and corrected the mistakes.

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[Tuur]

I received confirmation via email that the Christian Post's reporting was in error when it stated that "most Christians would never vote for a Democrat" and "62% say they would never consider voting for a Democrat." The writer of the article has since edited the article and corrected the mistakes.

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That's still not looking at the actual poll. All I can find is that Change Research conducted it. With something like a Pew poll, you can look at the questions and the responses.

My question isn't the same as yours. I keep going back to the black/white Evangelical political divide, and given the completely anecdotal observation of who bothered to put up campaign signs last election and who the signs were for, I'm skeptical that it's completely eroded away.

 

[chevyontheriver]

My question isn't the same as yours. I keep going back to the black/white Evangelical political divide, and given the completely anecdotal observation of who bothered to put up campaign signs last election and who the signs were for, I'm skeptical that it's completely eroded away.

I see something similar among Catholics, who were long locked into the Democratic Party. It's much less so now, but the old presumption was that if you were Catholic you were Democrat. That lock began to fade as the Democrats came out in favor of abortion.

I do seem to recall that many black people were Republicans way back when, before they got locked into the Democratic Party in the 1960's.

 

[jas3]

I received confirmation via email that the Christian Post's reporting was in error when it stated that "most Christians would never vote for a Democrat" and "62% say they would never consider voting for a Democrat." The writer of the article has since edited the article and corrected the mistakes.

Christian Post didn't have access to the polling data, Time Magazine did. The original Time article consistently uses "these Christians" and "those Christians" to refer to the participants in the poll, not successive breakdowns of subsets of the people who were polled. Christian Post got it right the first time.

 

[JosephZ]

Christian Post didn't have access to the polling data, Time Magazine did. The original Time article consistently uses "these Christians" and "those Christians" to refer to the participants in the poll, not successive breakdowns of subsets of the people who were polled. Christian Post got it right the first time.

The Time magazine article doesn't say most Christians wouldn't vote for a Democrat, nor does it say 62% of Christians would never consider voting for a Democrat. That's not what the poll showed, and the original Christian Post article clearly got it wrong in reporting those things.

Why would the Christian Post edit the article if they had gotten the story right the first time?

The answer is because their error was pointed out to them, and they made corrections to their reporting to align with the Time magazine article.

 

[Tuur]

The Time magazine article doesn't say most Christians wouldn't vote for a Democrat, nor does it say 62% of Christians would never consider voting for a Democrat. That's not what the poll showed, and the original Christian Post article clearly got it wrong in reporting those things.

Why would the Christian Post edit the article if they had gotten the story right the first time?

The answer is because their error was pointed out to them, and they made corrections to their reporting to align with the Time magazine article.

Not having the actual poll to look at, we can only speculate. But if CP doesn't have the actual poll, either, then all it takes is a plausible argument.

As stated, I'm suspicious about the poll for other reasons.

 

[trophy33]

Why don't Christians in the USA create a moderate Christian party, as is common in many Western countries, for example in Germany?

Democrats do not seem to be extra Christian-friendly and Republicans seem to rather manipulate Christians to vote for them while not being really a Christian party.

 

[JosephZ]

Not having the actual poll to look at, we can only speculate. But if CP doesn't have the actual poll, either, then all it takes is a plausible argument.

As stated, I'm suspicious about the poll for other reasons.

My only concern is the gross error made by The Christian Post in its reporting.

 

[jas3]

That's not what the poll showed

Oh? Do you have the results yourself?

 

[A New Dawn]

The only surprising thing about this result is that these numbers aren't higher.

You have to realize that there were probably some liberal Christians who responded, changing the results of the poll.

 

[jas3]

Why don't Christians in the USA create a moderate Christian party, as is common in many Western countries, for example in Germany?

A couple of reasons, one being the difficulty of getting candidates for a third party on the ballot in the first place, the other being that I don't think there are many Christians who perceive the Republicans to be too far right; for many, the Republican party is already a compromise and thus the de facto moderate party for Christians.

 

[JosephZ]

Oh? Do you have the results yourself?

No, but we have the social media pages of Doug Pagitt and Vote Common Good, who commissioned the poll, stating that 80% of Christians would consider voting for a Democrat, which shows that the original claim made by The Christian Post that the poll showed that most Christians would never vote for a Democrat was incorrect. We also have the Time magazine article, which states, "Pagitt’s survey finds a full 50% of Christians say religion is losing influence in American life. And 60% of these Christian voters say they reliably back Republicans; 62% say they would never consider voting for a Democrat," which shows that the Christian Post was wrong when it said 62% of Christians would never vote for a Democrat. I also have an email from Doug Pagitt thanking me for contacting him about the Christian Post article and agreeing that the Christian Post's reporting on the poll was incorrect and that he was in touch with them about correcting the information. And finally, the Christian Post edited their original headline from "Most Christians say they would never vote for a Democrat, poll finds" to "Most Christians have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, poll finds." The Christian Post also removed the claim that 62% of Christians would never vote for a Democrat from their article. Based on all of this, it's safe for me to say that the poll doesn't show that most Christians wouldn't vote for a Democrat or that 62% of Christians would never consider voting for a Democrat.

Again, my only concern was about the inaccurate reporting by the Christian Post, as it may have misled people into actually believing that most Christians would never vote for a Democrat when the poll found that an overwhelming majority would. I'm happy to see that the Christian Post corrected their error once it was brought to their attention.

 

[trophy33]

A couple of reasons, one being the difficulty of getting candidates for a third party on the ballot in the first place, the other being that I don't think there are many Christians who perceive the Republicans to be too far right; for many, the Republican party is already a compromise and thus the de facto moderate party for Christians.

Republican social, tax or environmental policies do not seem Christian, though. They rather seem to be a party for wealthy corporations. They always sell things like abortion or LGBT to Christian voters, but then, after being elected, no Christian policies are actually implemented, rather Democrats do them - for example Obama care.

But Democrats are too "woke" and their abortion and other policies are extreme. Therefore, instead of always choosing the lesser evil, Christians in the USA should create a moderate Christian party. Something like: Christian democracy - Wikipedia