James Cameron's 'The Abyss' Pulled From Disney+ Over Scene of a Rat in Distress

[Wolseley]

Look, I am definitely against cruelty to animals, I really am. And the animal in question here, according to the movie's production team, was not harmed in any way, so there's really no harm, no foul. However, two points here:

1. It's a movie, folks. Not real. Illusion. Depiction. No actual cruelty was perpetrated.

2. It's a *rat*, fercrineoutloud. Vermin, ya know? The carriers responsible for destruction of billions of dollars' worth of foodstuffs and property every year, for spreading all manner of disease and filth through the world, not to mention killing 1/3 of the entire population of Europe once upon a time. You're really that worried about a rat??? Medical science labs kill thousands of rats every year, after inflicting hideous experiments on them, not to mention primates, dogs, cats, birds, insects, etc.; and that's not a fictional scene in a movie, that's the real deal. Why don't they protest that?

What I find most baffling is that they're getting their undies in a bunch over this, but they apparently have no problem with depictions of horrific cruelty perpetrated on human beings displayed in movies that (IMHO) never should have been released to begin with, such as The Human Centipede, or The Green Inferno, or Cannibal Holocaust, or any of those forty dozen "I Spit On Your Grave"-type movies and their clones. They're okay with movies that depict cruelty on human beings in a manner that would make Satan queasy, and yet they're worried about drowning a rat???

I really do not understand these people.

MSN

 

[joymercy]

For years and years I could not get the image of the intentionally suffocated lab rat out of my mind from one of my pre-med classes.

The professor took a glass beaker and either turned it upside down over the rat or the rat was dropped inside and the beaker turned over upon it alongside of a cotton ball with some sort of chemical, which I think may have been ether.

We had to gather around and watch as the rat went nuts trying to find oxygen and died right in front of us.

We were told that we had to do this in order to get his fresh brain in order for us to practice making slides of his brain matter.

We were excused however from having to observe the prof decapitate the rat and remove the brain.

We then had to practice making brain slices with a machine and creating mounts for the microscope and having to "fix" the slice with various chemicals.

That left a life long lasting impression on me!

Ps-In the uncut movie version, the rat learns to live by breathing a liquid form of oxygen.

 

[Wolseley]

For years and years I could not get the image of the intentionally suffocated lab rat out of my mind from one of my pre-med classes.

The professor took a glass beaker and either turned it upside down over the rat or the rat was dropped inside and the beaker turned over upon it alongside of a cotton ball with some sort of chemical, which I think may have been ether.

We had to gather around and watch as the rat went nuts trying to find oxygen and died right in front of us.

We were told that we had to do this in order to get his fresh brain in order for us to practice making slides of his brain matter.

We were excused however from having to observe the prof decapitate the rat and remove the brain.

We then had to practice making brain slices with a machine and creating mounts for the microscope and having to "fix" the slice with various chemicals.

That left a life long lasting impression on me!

Ps-In the uncut movie version, the rat learns to live by breathing a liquid form of oxygen.

I can empathize. When I was in the military, I saw, heard, and smelled things that I don't ever want to experience again.

 

[ozso]

Look, I am definitely against cruelty to animals, I really am. And the animal in question here, according to the movie's production team, was not harmed in any way, so there's really no harm, no foul. However, two points here:

1. It's a movie, folks. Not real. Illusion. Depiction. No actual cruelty was perpetrated.

2. It's a *rat*, fercrineoutloud. Vermin, ya know? The carriers responsible for destruction of billions of dollars' worth of foodstuffs and property every year, for spreading all manner of disease and filth through the world, not to mention killing 1/3 of the entire population of Europe once upon a time. You're really that worried about a rat??? Medical science labs kill thousands of rats every year, after inflicting hideous experiments on them, not to mention primates, dogs, cats, birds, insects, etc.; and that's not a fictional scene in a movie, that's the real deal. Why don't they protest that?

What I find most baffling is that they're getting their undies in a bunch over this, but they apparently have no problem with depictions of horrific cruelty perpetrated on human beings displayed in movies that (IMHO) never should have been released to begin with, such as The Human Centipede, or The Green Inferno, or Cannibal Holocaust, or any of those forty dozen "I Spit On Your Grave"-type movies and their clones. They're okay with movies that depict cruelty on human beings in a manner that would make Satan queasy, and yet they're worried about drowning a rat???

I really do not understand these people.

MSN

While I agree with you at the same time I doubt the other movies you listed are available on Disney+.

 

[Wolseley]

While I agree with you at the same time I doubt the other movies you listed are available on Disney+.

Between you, me, and the gatepost, I don't think those movies should be available anywhere, but that's just me.

And no, I haven't watched any of them, if you're wondering. I don't have to eat dog droppings to know what they are.

 

[ozso]

Between you, me, and the gatepost, I don't think those movies should be available anywhere, but that's just me.

And no, I haven't watched any of them, if you're wondering. I don't have to eat dog droppings to know what they are.

I was just making a tongue-in-cheek comment. What Disney+ is doing along with other outlets is over censoring anything that might possibly offend or trigger someone no matter how far fetched. "When I saw what happened to that poor CGI rat I had a nervous breakdown and now suffer PTSD from it".

 

[Wolseley]

I was just making a tongue-in-cheek comment. What Disney+ is doing along with other outlets is over censoring anything that might possibly offend or trigger someone no matter how far fetched. "When I saw what happened to that poor CGI rat I had a nervous breakdown and now suffer PTSD from it".

Yeah, it all goes back to America being lawsuit-happy. Much of it started back in the early 1980s when that woman burned her delicates with a cup of McDonald's coffee, sued McDonalds, and won, thus opening the door for three hundred billion frivolous lawsuits.

If the judge on that case had had any intestinal fortitude, he would have looked the woman right straight in the eye and asked, "What kind of moronic, brain-dead idiot puts a cup of hot coffee between their legs and then tries to drive a car that way??? You pull a stupid stunt like that and you expect to get rewarded for it? Get out of my courtroom!"

And now, of course, if you smile at a woman in an elevator, she can get you fired for sexual harassment; if you (gasp!) touch someone, they can get you arrested for attempted rape; if you call a male a "he" and "he" prefers "she", then you've misused his pronouns, and you should go to jail.

It's all madness. We have raised at least three generation of spoiled, selfish, bratty children who get what they want by throwing temper tantrums. There isn't a single one of them that would last over 28 minutes in a live combat zone.