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California Bill Would Prohibit ICE Officers From Wearing Masks in the State

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Ask us if we'd prefer some sort of legal status which would allow interactions with the protective aspects of government w/o fear of being ripped from their live and families. Just ask.
Protective aspects of government? Which government are you referring to? If someone is here ILLEGALLY, why would the government of the country they're illegally in be protecting those who are breaking the law by being here?
 
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Protective aspects of government? Which government are you referring to? If someone is here ILLEGALLY, why would the government of the country they're illegally in be protecting those who are breaking the law by being here?
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The kind of protection that comes from having some sort of recognized legal status. The ability to *not* be exploited because you can freely call the cops or the labor, housing, etc. regulators without fear of deportation.
 
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In what way are they carrying out their job that you have a problem with, other than that their badge number might be covered up?
Is that something that can just get dismissed outright with? Because it is not with me. But if you insist on a fuller answer.

I will say what I have seen quite a few previous Trump supporters (and employers of these individuals) say. Appearances are right now that they are just trying to "Fill quotas" and not actively trying to "scalpel cut remove" rapists, gang members, murderers etc. I think MOST Americans didn't have a problem with that at all. But that is CLEARLY not what is happenning.

They are making aggregious, Constitutional errors with people being held longer than they should in an effort to support Miller's little goals.
 
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Protective aspects of government? Which government are you referring to? If someone is here ILLEGALLY, why would the government of the country they're illegally in be protecting those who are breaking the law by being here?
Talk to thosee idiot framers of your Constitution.
 
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The kind of protection that comes from having some sort of recognized legal status. The ability to *not* be exploited because you can freely call the cops or the labor, housing, etc. regulators without fear of deportation.
Now I get it. You want them to be able to have their actual legal status (illegal alien) ignored so they can get government services from the country that they illegally reside in, and to use those government services against the employer that IS here legally.
The solution is simple: The person who is here illegally can return to his own country, and then receive government services from his own government.
 
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Is that something that can just get dismissed outright with? Because it is not with me. But if you insist on a fuller answer.

I will say what I have seen quite a few previous Trump supporters (and employers of these individuals) say. Appearances are right now that they are just trying to "Fill quotas" and not actively trying to "scalpel cut remove" rapists, gang members, murderers etc. I think MOST Americans didn't have a problem with that at all. But that is CLEARLY not what is happenning.

They are making aggregious, Constitutional errors with people being held longer than they should in an effort to support Miller's little goals.
If you're saying that people who are not here illegally are being detained along with those who are, then you're correct in that this shouldn't happen.
 
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I would, but they're not available.

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If you're saying that people who are not here illegally are being detained along with those who are, then you're correct in that this shouldn't happen.
The other thing is that they are being unnecessarily cruel. The latest one is the arrest of a woman who was coming out of an immigration hearing with her husband, a native born US Marine. At the hearing, she was accepted for a green card and needed one more hearing to finalize the paperwork. Instead, she was cuffed and hauled off in front of her husband by a paramilitary squad. She leaves two children, a toddler and an 18-month old she was breast feeding when arrested. No green card for her, she's a vicious criminal. However her case is an interesting one. She came in as a child, legally, and resided here, but somewhere along the lines her mother messed up some paperwork or didn't attend a hearing, which resulting years later with the family being ordered removed. But the forces of law and order managed to arrest this threat to the Republic just in time.
 
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The ICE masks are not for fear. Democrats were identifying those in raids, endangering the lives of officers and civilians. Additionally ICE has received death threats, and some radicals are willing to go after the families of the officers. Thus the need to remain anonymous. CRIMINALS, whether from BLM or Antifa or elsewhere, hide their identities to avoid prosecution.
That's why I'm saying, use scary masks to strike fear into those evildoers washing dishes and such and put them in secret courts and jails! Easy peasy and everyone is safe when everything is kept secret and hidden.
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Now I get it.
No, you don't.
You want them to be able to have their actual legal status (illegal alien) ignored so they can get government services from the country that they illegally reside in, and to use those government services against the employer that IS here legally.
No, I want them to be able to report those who would exploit them and that requires some sort of legal status. The landlords that won't fix the hot water; the employers that short pay packets; etc.; and the victims of crimes who fear reporting their crimes to police because they could get deported.
The solution is simple: The person who is here illegally can return to his own country, and then receive government services from his own government.
Their home governments aren't going to protect them from exploiters and criminals in the US. This isn't about "handouts".
 
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The other thing is that they are being unnecessarily cruel. The latest one is the arrest of a woman who was coming out of an immigration hearing with her husband, a native born US Marine. At the hearing, she was accepted for a green card and needed one more hearing to finalize the paperwork. Instead, she was cuffed and hauled off in front of her husband by a paramilitary squad. She leaves two children, a toddler and an 18-month old she was breast feeding when arrested. No green card for her, she's a vicious criminal. However her case is an interesting one. She came in as a child, legally, and resided here, but somewhere along the lines her mother messed up some paperwork or didn't attend a hearing, which resulting years later with the family being ordered removed. But the forces of law and order managed to arrest this threat to the Republic just in time.
We have seen cruelty on a massive scale under the Biden regime. I am sure everyone has a story, many were lured in by Biden and his people, remember Joe told them to "come." Tragically, while lying to the people and falsely claiming the border was safe, secure, and closed, millions of people not properly vetted were allowed into our country, human trafficking skyrocketed, and we are left with this disaster. In cleaning up this gigantic mess there will be some sad cases. I urge illegals to take the thousand dollars and self-deport and apply for citizenship from outside of the country. Now in the case you mention about a "native born" Marine, his wife had a 2018 order of removal against her issued by a California court. She has not been deported, she is being held while the government has the time to check out her story and legal avenues have been pursued. Law enforcement made the arrest based on a court order, there is no "cruelty" as you allege. Law enforce personnel would be fired if they accepted a story from someone when a warrant had been issued by a court. It is not their place to usurp the power of the courts.
 
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Where have I said they should work for subpar wages?
That's why people hire them .
They get paid scab wages, share a house with too many others and live off of Ramen Noodles
 
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That's why people hire them .
They get paid scab wages, share a house with too many others and live off of Ramen Noodles

And then they send their money back to their families. My goodness, horrible people with values, we don't need them. Lol
 
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And then they send their money back to their families. My goodness, horrible people with values, we don't need them. Lol
Pelosi said we need them to pick the crops. They are being exploited.
 
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