Federal immigration raid at Omaha meat production plant sparks annoyance from corporate management

[BCP1928]

Does that somewhat put a wet towel on the argument that "undocumented people in the workforce are vital because they'll do the jobs citizens don't want to do"?

That argument was worn thin long ago. We all know why undocumented people are vital to the workforce,

If their waiting room was filled to the brim with people applying for those jobs upon hearing of the vacancies, seems like at least some of the jobs were ones that Americans were perfectly happy to do.

Provably legal residents, anyway.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

That argument was worn thin long ago. We all know why undocumented people are vital to the workforce,

For reasons that, if a conservative said them, would get labelled as "un-PC" or "racist".

"We need undocumented Mexicans here because who else would clean toilets for sub-par wages" isn't exactly a great message.

The very types of fiscal exploitation progressives claim to oppose, is their main talking point as to why we need to be "less-forceful" with regards to illegal immigration enforcement.

 

[BCP1928]

For reasons that, if a conservative said them, would get labelled as "un-PC" or "racist".

No, just greedy and exploitive.

"We need undocumented Mexicans here because who else would clean toilets for sub-par wages" isn't exactly a great message.

The truth would be worse, that big business and big ag need them to keep their profits up,

The very types of fiscal exploitation progressives claim to oppose, is their main talking point as to why we need to be "less-forceful" with regards to illegal immigration enforcement.

It's not a progressive talking point, except in parody.

 

[rjs330]

It's not a progressive talking point, except in parody.

Absolutely it is a progressive leftist agenda. You said it yourself.

"That argument was worn thin long ago. We all know why undocumented people are vital to the workforce,"

That's a direct admission. The progressives constantly complain about wages. Then when conservatives want to get rid of illegals who keep labor cost down they complain that they vital and ive heard more than once from liberals how we shouldnt get rid of tgem because stuff would cost more because of higher wages.

So tell us the real reason progressives are so dead set on have illegals here. Why are they so VITAL?

 

[BCP1928]

Absolutely it is a progressive leftist agenda. You said it yourself.

"That argument was worn thin long ago. We all know why undocumented people are vital to the workforce,"

That's a direct admission. The progressives constantly complain about wages. Then when conservatives want to get rid of illegals who keep labor cost down they complain that they vital and ive heard more than once from liberals how we shouldnt get rid of tgem because stuff would cost more because of higher wages.

So tell us the real reason progressives are so dead set on have illegals here. Why are they so VITAL?

Why should I? You have not told us the real reason you don't want them here--though you have certainly alluded to it with your disgusting racist rants against Mexico and Mexicans.

 

[rjs330]

You have not told us the real reason you don't want them here--though you have certainly alluded to it with your disgusting racist rants against Mexico and Mexicans.

What racist rants are you talking about? Please quote them or admit you are wrong.

Now you want to use personal atracks because you cant explain yourself? Typical. You cant answer the question so you attack the questioner with personal atracks in hopes to distract from rhe fact you have no answer.

This is very typical for leftists. You said they were VITAL. Why are they vital?

You answer why they are so vital and I'll tell you why we should not allow illegals to be here.

 

[essentialsaltes]

While the company complained about "the aggressive nature" of the raids, the company faces no legal trouble.

ICE is arresting migrants in worksite raids. Employers are largely escaping charges.​

Trump administration officials have vowed to hold companies accountable for employing people who are in the country illegally — no matter which industry they are in or how big or small they might be.

But the Department of Homeland Security’s enforcement operations have overwhelmingly focused on arresting workers rather than punishing employers.

Since the start of the year, Immigration and Customs Enforcement has posted news releases regarding approximately two dozen raids on the “Worksite Enforcement” section of its website. Local news outlets have documented dozens more. The Washington Post was able to identify only one employer charged after the raids ICE has publicized. The Post reviewed court filings and searched for records involving individuals named in corporate records of businesses DHS has raided.

[But they are not enforcing worksite rules, just using the locations as a means to hit those quotas.]

The raids immigration officers are conducting have largely targeted small businesses such as car washes. Some are carried out in a span of minutes. Two business owners said officers did not show a warrant, even when asked for one, raising questions about whether immigration agents are violating constitutional rights in their effort to drive up migrant arrests.

“The difference about these raids of the last six weeks is that this is not principally an action against employers,” said Muzaffar Chishti, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute. “This is principally an action in pursuit of mass deportations. When they could not produce the number of arrests that they had been hoping for, they suddenly said, ‘Let’s raid employers.’ It was not, ‘Let’s penalize employers.’”

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Trump is also still looking to give a pass to farmers and hotels. Faced with the reality of the business models that currently exist, he's offering amnesty, to the disgruntlement of his most nativist supporters.

And as usual, this is because their ill-conceived Plan A is leading to consequences that absolutely were foreseen, necessitating later makeshift corrections.

Also, if there had been any good faith in pursuing the bipartisan immigration bill, an allowance could have been made for additional guest worker visas.

Trump says the administration is working on a 'temporary pass' for immigrants in certain industries​

The president's comments mark the latest shift in his administration's approach to immigrant workers in certain industries.

“What we’re going to do is we’re going to do something for farmers, where we can let the farmer sort of be in charge. The farmer knows. He’s not going to hire a murderer,” Trump said. “When you go into a farm and he’s had somebody working with him for nine years doing this kind of work, which is hard work to do, and a lot of people aren’t going to do it, and you end up destroying a farmer because you took all the people away, it’s a problem.”

 

[rjs330]

ICE is arresting migrants in worksite raids. Employers are largely escaping charges.​

Trump administration officials have vowed to hold companies accountable for employing people who are in the country illegally — no matter which industry they are in or how big or small they might be.

But the Department of Homeland Security’s enforcement operations have overwhelmingly focused on arresting workers rather than punishing employers.

Since the start of the year, Immigration and Customs Enforcement has posted news releases regarding approximately two dozen raids on the “Worksite Enforcement” section of its website. Local news outlets have documented dozens more. The Washington Post was able to identify only one employer charged after the raids ICE has publicized. The Post reviewed court filings and searched for records involving individuals named in corporate records of businesses DHS has raided.

[But they are not enforcing worksite rules, just using the locations as a means to hit those quotas.]

The raids immigration officers are conducting have largely targeted small businesses such as car washes. Some are carried out in a span of minutes. Two business owners said officers did not show a warrant, even when asked for one, raising questions about whether immigration agents are violating constitutional rights in their effort to drive up migrant arrests.

“The difference about these raids of the last six weeks is that this is not principally an action against employers,” said Muzaffar Chishti, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute. “This is principally an action in pursuit of mass deportations. When they could not produce the number of arrests that they had been hoping for, they suddenly said, ‘Let’s raid employers.’ It was not, ‘Let’s penalize employers.’”

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Trump is also still looking to give a pass to farmers and hotels. Faced with the reality of the business models that currently exist, he's offering amnesty, to the disgruntlement of his most nativist supporters.

And as usual, this is because their ill-conceived Plan A is leading to consequences that absolutely were foreseen, necessitating later makeshift corrections.

Also, if there had been any good faith in pursuing the bipartisan immigration bill, an allowance could have been made for additional guest worker visas.

Trump says the administration is working on a 'temporary pass' for immigrants in certain industries​

The president's comments mark the latest shift in his administration's approach to immigrant workers in certain industries.

“What we’re going to do is we’re going to do something for farmers, where we can let the farmer sort of be in charge. The farmer knows. He’s not going to hire a murderer,” Trump said. “When you go into a farm and he’s had somebody working with him for nine years doing this kind of work, which is hard work to do, and a lot of people aren’t going to do it, and you end up destroying a farmer because you took all the people away, it’s a problem.”

There are a lot of things people dont understand about how things work. There is a lot of investigative work that goes into going after employers. ICE isnt doing that. The DOJ dies. ICE finds illegals and arrests them. Thats their job. So what if they raid a business. Thats what they are supposed to do.

The DIJ goes after the businesses. And that takes time because they have to prove the business knowingly hired an illegal. But they are working on it.

What DOJ’s New Focus on Immigration Enforcement Means for Businesses

https://visaserve.com/how-dojs-increased-immigration-enforcement-affects-employers-and-compliance/

 

[Laeomis]

Modern day slavery. This hurts both the aliens and the local governments. The aliens are getting ripped out of their home countries and families to be alienated in another country where they get paid very little, and cannot become a citizen. This hurts local governments by polluting the population with foreigners, taking jobs from young people and those with no skill or education. The corporations and the federal government benefit by paying low wages, and reaping the taxes from the illegal aliens. Companies who do this should be severely punished, before the damage begins.