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[BPPLEE]

Exactly, for all this leftist concern over free speech, what opinions about the US are you noy allowed to say?

"I'm going to kill the president "
might get you a visit from the Feds
Someone in the Secret Service told me if you say president, plane and bomb on a cell phone you would get a visit from the Feds.
I don't know if that's true

 

[Bradskii]

None but that’s not my argument

This makes no sense whatsoever. It completely dismantles any argument that you thought you had. You are literally saying that you are entitled to free speech.

Except that...hang on...I guess that you think it only applies to what you want to say. You are free to do that. But if someone else says things with which you disagree, then that's not allowed.

Ohh kay. Got it now.

 

[Bradskii]

Wrong thread

Response to:

When you play stupid games you get stupid prices.

This was the only part that was worth a comment.

 

[Bradskii]

Someone in the Secret Service told me if you say president, plane and bomb on a cell phone you would get a visit from the Feds.

Or in a forum post. Was that your door bell..?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Even worse if they sneak in uninvited and display that behavior

People on student visas don't "sneak in". That was the context of the "free speech" discussion and the associated bad "house guest" metaphor.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

All the stupid games that Trump is playing with tariffs surely you'd expect stupid prices for everyday items.

 

[Hentenza]

Its the Dems that claim they want free speech while at rhe same time supporting shutting down free speech they dont like.

No one in the government is trying to remove free speech. Thats just nonsense.

Thats correct.

 

[Hentenza]

This makes no sense whatsoever. It completely dismantles any argument that you thought you had. You are literally saying that you are entitled to free speech.

Except that...hang on...I guess that you think it only applies to what you want to say. You are free to do that. But if someone else says things with which you disagree, then that's not allowed.

Ohh kay. Got it now.

Look every one is entitled to free speech, however, a student visa can be revoked for several reasons including national security concerns and criminal activities, even if charges are dropped. Insurrection type speech, activism, threats to the government, etc. .could be grounds for visa revocation. So free speech is NOT all encompassing like it is for citizens. I guess is hard for you to follow the argument.

 

[Hentenza]

All the stupid games that Trump is playing with tariffs surely you'd expect stupid prices for everyday items.

Yep. I totally agree. I also think that the dems did such a terrible job in the last 4 years that they got Trump as the prize.

 

[rjs330]

Here's the thing. This isnt really about free speech. This is about illegal immigration. All these side issues and just that. One offs that the left uses to distract from the real problem which is illegal immigration and the lack of people willing to follow our laws and being supported in doing so by the left.

 

[wing2000]

Look every one is entitled to free speech, however, a student visa can be revoked for several reasons including national security concerns and criminal activities, even if charges are dropped. Insurrection type speech, activism, threats to the government, etc. .could be grounds for visa revocation. So free speech is NOT all encompassing like it is for citizens. I guess is hard for you to follow the argument.

Insurrection type speech?
Threats to the government?

Can you cite one example with evidence provided by the government?

 

[Hentenza]

Insurrection type speech?
Threats to the government?

Can you cite one example with evidence provided by the government?

Oh come on really? You can’t look up the government website on reasons that a visa can be revoked? Hint, there are no examples.

 

[wing2000]

Oh come on really? You can’t look up the government website on reasons that a visa can be revoked? Hint, there are no examples.

I asked you for an example.

 

[Gene2memE]

Exactly, for all this leftist concern over free speech, what opinions about the US are you noy allowed to say?

"Under the Trump administration, we will revoke the student visas of radical, anti-American and antisemitic foreigners at our colleges and universities, and we will send them straight back home"

"...The United States must ensure that admitted aliens and aliens otherwise already present in the United States do not bear hostile attitudes toward its citizens, culture, government, institutions, or founding principles, and do not advocate for, aid, or support designated foreign terrorists or other threats to our national security." Restricting The Entry of Foreign Nationals to Protect the United States from Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats

 

[Hentenza]

I asked you for an example.

There are non. They use national security and crimes. I guess the government determines what constitutes each.

 

[BPPLEE]

People on student visas don't "sneak in". That was the context of the "free speech" discussion and the associated bad "house guest" metaphor

Well I gave a worse house guest metaphor

 

[Hans Blaster]

Well I gave a worse house guest metaphor

I didn't think a worse one could be given, but you succeeded. Salut!

 

[NxNW]

I like the analogy. Not my fault that you don’t.

It's a bad analogy, because freedom of speech applies to more than your house.

 

[NxNW]

Its the Dems that claim they want free speech while at rhe same time supporting shutting down free speech they dont like.

Dems haven't shut down any speech at all.

 

[Hentenza]

It's a bad analogy, because freedom of speech applies to more than your house.

Hint: look up reasons to revoke a visa. Freedom of speech has its limitations when you hold a visa.