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I mean... We've given you the crayons, my guy. You choosing not to color with them is not our issue.
lol, I'm old and tech illiterate, but even I know how to post a link to something online if it exists. Maybe just admit you told a falsehood made a mistake.
 
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lol, I'm old and tech illiterate, but even I know how to post a link to something online if it exists. Maybe just admit you told a falsehood made a mistake.
Ah yes. The ostrich. My favorite forum game. Stick your head in the ground, pretend you see nothing, then attack the people who won't jump in the hole with you, while happily basking in the glow of having remained deliberately obstinate enough that you can pretend the facts aren't there and you're on the moral high ground.

You want to read about the topic we're all discussing, go back to page 13 and click all the links that have been smattered through the thread which lay it all out there. I know this requires some effort on your part and that might be scary, but we all believe in you. You can do it.
 
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Citation given: this whole thread and the numerous articles contained therein.

Last time I'm giving you the attention you want. If you want to have a conversation at the adults table, you have to know the basics of the topic. That requires you briefly leave the boat you're riding down the Nile, which, so far you've shown us you're not super into doing. As I said, we can give you all the information in the world. Reading it and understanding it is all on you.
 
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It's my personal assessment that you're a pink unicorn.
My assessment is based on my education and training in terrorism studies and countering violent extremism.

The National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START) defines right-wing and religious extremism in the following ways:

Right-wing extremism

Violence in support of the belief that personal and/or national way of life is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent. Characterized by anti-globalism, racial or ethnic supremacy or nationalism, suspicion of centralized federal authority, reverence for individual liberty, and/or belief in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty.

Religious extremism

Violence in support of a particular faith-based belief system and its corresponding cultural practices and views, sometimes in opposition to competing belief systems. Characterized by opposition to purported enemies of God, nonbelievers, or perceived evildoers; striving to forcibly insert religion into the political or social sphere through the imposition of strict religious tenets or laws; and/or bring about end times. (Subcategories: Christian, Jewish, Islamic)

Based on what we have learned about Boelter and the definitions above, wouldn't you also classify him as a far-right/right-wing Christian exteremist?
 
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Seems like the Nile is a river running directly through CF today.

What I find interesting is I skimmed through some of the threads on here when Trump was shot. A lot of people yelling at the Democrat/left members of the forum saying "the left is evil and did this!" and a lot of people replying back "well yeah, dude was probably on the left and hated Trump enough to want him dead, but he's a fringe outlier not representative of the whole, thank goodness." Then smatterings of condolences and well wishes with varying degrees of sincerity, but a lot of statements about how a free society doesn't shoot at elected officials simply because they don't like them.

Then here, on this one, dude is pretty apparently ridiculously far right, and the response has again been a mixture of "the left is evil and did this!" followed by "there's no proof he's a Trump supporter/far right/Christian/Republican/Conservative" and just total abject denial and refusal to believe the guy is what he's put out there for years that he is. And really, not many (if any) statements from the same crowd about what happened being awful and terrible and an attack on decent people and democracy as a whole.

So... That's a fun little nugget to reflect on.

It isn't thoughtful reflection and a serious weighing of the issues that brings one to the point of championing a tv personality with a long history of scamming people.

He did travel to the Democratic Republic of Congo.

...which, last time I checked, is full of black people, so he's obviously a BLM supporter. #woke
 
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We must have gotten to the point where you accept that it was a far right extremist who did the assassinations because now you have devolved into free-associating and dropping random vague “God is going to get you” bumper sticker philosophy. Took longer than it should of for you to get here, but it least you’re here now.
Who cares who did what? It all boils down to man putting our will ahead of not only God but each other, clashing with all the other wills out there, finding the odd compatriot. Humanity at its stupid best. And now they are trying to pass this guy off as extremely religious, for opposing reasons. One, he is a zealot, two he is justified? Hardly. Gotta love how todays world condemns everyone before the facts, let alone a trial proves guilt. So anxious for their bit of flesh.
 
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Who cares who did what?
Well, generally due to causality, it's quite important to care who did what if you wish to understand what happened and why. Ignorance isn't something to aspire to.
 
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Well, generally due to causality, it's quite important to care who did what if you wish to understand what happened and why. Ignorance isn't something to aspire to.
We know what is happening and why. The minute details aren't important for all come from the same seed. Humans are acting in their same self-serving ways thy always have, furthering the chaos cause by the original sin of putting our will first. All based on self, in this case self-justification of self-determination of what is good or evil, and even calling one evil good. Of course the opposing team plays on their own self-interest and self-indignation to keep the ball perpetually rolling.
 
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Well, generally due to causality, it's quite important to care who did what if you wish to understand what happened and why. Ignorance isn't something to aspire to.
History covers "not only how events developed over time but also why they happened and in which contexts, providing an explanation of relevant background conditions and causal mechanisms. History further examines the meaning of historical events and the underlying human motives driving them."
 
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Who cares who did what? It all boils down to man putting our will ahead of not only God but each other, clashing with all the other wills out there, finding the odd compatriot. Humanity at its stupid best. And now they are trying to pass this guy off as extremely religious, for opposing reasons. One, he is a zealot, two he is justified? Hardly. Gotta love how todays world condemns everyone before the facts, let alone a trial proves guilt. So anxious for their bit of flesh.
I think “who cares who did what?” is the closest we will get to hearing “yup, we know, this extremist was a radicalized believer of far right ideology, which is uncomfortable for me as a far-right person” on this thread.

The facts are in, my guy. Short of getting him to come here and write to you personally, there’s no way to spin that beyond simply engaging outright denial. Saying “he is radicalized right” isn’t demanding a pound of flesh… It’s just a statement of fact.

Demanding a pound of flesh would be us saying “he’s radical right, all right is bad, punish people who are far right.”

Or, oh, I don’t know… Deporting thousands upon thousands of people based on the criminal acts of a few. Or telling an entire segment of people what rights they’re allowed to have because you read something about litter boxes in classrooms and freaked out about it.
 
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We know what is happening and why. The minute details aren't important for all come from the same seed. Humans are acting in their same self-serving ways thy always have, furthering the chaos cause by the original sin of putting our will first. All based on self, in this case self-justification of self-determination of what is good or evil, and even calling one evil good. Of course the opposing team plays on their own self-interest and self-indignation to keep the ball perpetually rolling.
Oh man, we’re dancing so close to the admitting that the guy was radicalized right, but just can’t stick the landing.
 
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Oh man, we’re dancing so close to the admitting that the guy was radicalized right, but just can’t stick the landing.
Right/left or whatever, all sides are at fault for putting 8 billion wills ahead of each other. We are working with stolen property and have no right to play this game.
 
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Right/left or whatever, all sides are at fault for putting 8 billion wills ahead of each other. We are working with stolen property and have no right to play this game.
This is just a Caesar salad of bumper sticker philosophy. Looks good on the back of a car, but little practical application beyond that.
 
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This is just a Caesar salad of bumper sticker philosophy. Looks good on the back of a car, but little practical application beyond that.
To a non-believer in the ways of the Kingdom perhaps. Each to their own
 
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