What is truth?

[timf]

Joh 18:38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

Pilate's rather blasé inquiry showed a sort f world weary disregard for philosophical musings. What he failed to perceive was that the rhetorical question was asked of he who is truth.

The bible calls four things truth, God the Father,God the Son,, God the Holy Spirit, and the word of God. One might see truth as that which is absolute, unchangeable and defines reality. There can be a difference between something that is true and truth.itself.

I once made a comment is a social setting that all psychology was wrong. When challenged to support my assertion, I said that no psychological theory of human behavior included the concept of sin. Thus not remedy drawn from such an inadequate understanding of human behavior could be anything but random in its efficacy. While my statement could see as true, to consider truth, one has to go to the bible.

. Rom_3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

More than one denomination falls short of truth. However, beyond doctrinal inaccuracies, perhaps are greater failings;

1. Failing to help each member become more like Jesus.
2. Administered as an organizational system whose mechanical nature impedes relationships.
3. Failing to show how to disentangle from the world and the flesh.
4. Presenting Christianity as a Sunday morning activity.

Someone recently intimated a dissatisfaction with the error of a particular denomination. Since we all contribute our own errors, we might have some compassion for a weaker brother, particularly if we are the weaker brother.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The truth will set you free.
Jesus is the truth.
Jesus said to the Father, your word is truth.

So someone can interpret the third point to mean the bible is truth, and focus on determining truth through the bible, but idolatry of the concepts gleaned may result in bondage - So since this practice does not "set free" it does not "reflect truth"

The above is just one example, depending on how deep the truth is, the conceptual, the practical and the incarnational truth will all be present.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Joh 18:38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

Pilate's rather blasé inquiry showed a sort f world weary disregard for philosophical musings. What he failed to perceive was that the rhetorical question was asked of he who is truth.

The bible calls four thugs truth, God the Father,God the Son,, God the Holy Spirit, and the word of God. One might see truth as that which is absolute, unchangeable and defines reality. There can be a difference between something that is true and truth.itself.

I once made a comment is a social setting that all psychology was wrong. When challenged to support my assertion, I said that no psychological theory of human behavior included the concept of sin. Thus not remedy drawn from such an inadequate understanding of human behavior could be anything but random in its efficacy. While my statement could see as true, to consider truth, one has to go to the bible.

. Rom_3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

More than one denomination falls short of truth. However, beyond doctrinal inaccuracies, perhaps are greater failings;

1. Failing to help each member become more like Jesus.
2. Administered as an organizational system whose mechanical nature impedes relationships.
3. Failing to show how to disentangle from the world and the flesh.
4. Presenting Christianity as a Sunday morning activity.

Someone recently intimated a dissatisfaction with the error of a particular denomination. Since we all contribute our own errors, we might have some compassion for a weaker brother, particularly if we are the weaker brother.

You have a typo, not " thugs" but " things". Just helping out.
Blessings

 

[Stephen3141]

Joh 18:38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

Pilate's rather blasé inquiry showed a sort f world weary disregard for philosophical musings. What he failed to perceive was that the rhetorical question was asked of he who is truth.

The bible calls four thugs truth, God the Father,God the Son,, God the Holy Spirit, and the word of God. One might see truth as that which is absolute, unchangeable and defines reality. There can be a difference between something that is true and truth.itself.

I once made a comment is a social setting that all psychology was wrong. When challenged to support my assertion, I said that no psychological theory of human behavior included the concept of sin. Thus not remedy drawn from such an inadequate understanding of human behavior could be anything but random in its efficacy. While my statement could see as true, to consider truth, one has to go to the bible.

. Rom_3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

More than one denomination falls short of truth. However, beyond doctrinal inaccuracies, perhaps are greater failings;

1. Failing to help each member become more like Jesus.
2. Administered as an organizational system whose mechanical nature impedes relationships.
3. Failing to show how to disentangle from the world and the flesh.
4. Presenting Christianity as a Sunday morning activity.

Someone recently intimated a dissatisfaction with the error of a particular denomination. Since we all contribute our own errors, we might have some compassion for a weaker brother, particularly if we are the weaker brother.

[I think that you initial comment has been thugged by the spell checker.]

 

[timf]

Thanks for the help. I was sick the day they taught spelling in school.

 

[com7fy8]

Yes, Jesus himself is "the truth" (in John 14:6).

But what does this mean?

I suppose part of this is that Jesus is "truth reality" . . . of how God is and how to be in genuine love. All that is true of how Jesus is is true of how God is.

And, by the way, I understand that part of why Jesus came here was to show us not only "who" Jesus is, but how God is. The truth about Jesus is not only if we put the label of "God" on Him, then; but we need Jesus so we can know ***how*** God is and therefore how real love is . . . in character, not only in explanation and beliefs.

Truth can be facts and explanations. But truth also can mean the actual reality that you are taking about. For example, we can say a lot of things about elephants, but some people might think you are talking about a walrus! But if we handle or at least observe an elephant, the elephant itself is the truth of what we are talking about.

And, like this . . . the Holy Spirit demonstrates what He is talking about. The Holy Spirit shares with us things of God, even making us humble like Jesus so we can know in actual experience how Jesus is and therefore how to be humble.

Ones of us know that God's word says, "be clothed with humility" (in 1 Peter 5:5). But the truth of this is how the Holy Spirit in us does this with us.

 

[com7fy8]

I once made a comment is a social setting that all psychology was wrong. When challenged to support my assertion, I said that no psychological theory of human behavior included the concept of sin. Thus not remedy drawn from such an inadequate understanding of human behavior could be anything but random in its efficacy.

At least, they asked you to back up what you said, instead of just shutting you out.

And, "of course", ones can leave out how to be and to love like Jesus. And God is almighty to correct our personalities of whatever is anti-love and therefore a sin problem. Hebrews 12:4-14 talks about how God's correction succeeds in us.

1. Failing to help each member become more like Jesus.

Basic Christianity includes being changed to be and to love like Jesus. This is God's constant and basic purpose, in and through all >

"For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren." (Romans 8:29)

In God's all-working > Ephesians 1:11 > all is connected with conforming many to be like Jesus. Perhaps we could say the psychology of this is how our Father is so pleased with Jesus that He has desired and decided to have many children who are so pleasing to Him like Jesus is.

And He will not accept whoever and whatever isn't. And so He has the place where anti-love people and spirits and their things will go.

2. Administered as an organizational system whose mechanical nature impedes relationships.

And scheduled stuff can conflict with how the Holy Spirit in us is at any moment guiding us. Therefore >

"Test all things; hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

Don't just go along, then. Don't let pressure be your guide.

3. Failing to show how to disentangle from the world and the flesh.

Well, the Holy Spirit demonstrates this, in us, right? This is not what we can learn and then get ourselves to do this >

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice." (Ephesians 4:31)

God's word says to put away what is wrong in us or trying to get the better of us. He does not say, struggle with it, vent it, channel its energy, or try to appease or negotiate with it. He says put it away. And God is the One who is almighty to easily and breezily and beautifully get rid of whatever is anti-love and is emotionally cruel and controlling in our personalities.

Now . . . if this is correct . . . that we trust God to do this > I just offered this in fewer words and dollars and pills and hours of counseling and treatment, than some number of people have done in their ways of trying to help us about our personality problems.

And this is free of charge >

"Freely you have received, freely give," Jesus does say in Matthew 10:8.

Trust God Himself to get rid of any evil thing in us or attacking us, and actively seek our Father for how He corrects our character to be like Jesus and love like Jesus > Hebrews 12:4-14 > and in this character of Jesus and God's own love we have God's immunity almighty against any and all sin-sick emotions and drives and feelings. And forgiving can help us to be and to stay strong like this in Jesus.

4. Presenting Christianity as a Sunday morning activity.

But it can be good to share with one another so we can help one another to grow in Jesus.

Someone recently intimated a dissatisfaction with the error of a particular denomination. Since we all contribute our own errors, we might have some compassion for a weaker brother, particularly if we are the weaker brother.

And each person in a denominational church can be unique . . . to be discovered. Let each person speak for oneself, and enjoy discovering. And yes be ready to help wrong and mistaken people, and be ready for God to guide us to someone who does actually benefit from sharing with us and who even helps us

 

[Stephen3141]

If you're serious in your question...

I would say that you have to define what you mean by "truth", first.

Then, I would say that you will have to define or find the relationship between
the definition of truth, and correctly describing "our shared reality."

(I assert) that it is not enough for Christians to simply declare that "this is
truth" (in an apologetics site), without dealing with the nature of reality. And,
that brings Christians right into the middle of what the rest of the world would
call "philosophy".

If you simply assert that <this> is truth, then it seems that that approach is an
appeal to authority, and ANYONE, HOLDING ANY VIEW OF REALITY, CAN DO THAT.
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Christians, should be able to do betterr than that!

 

[Richard T]

Joh 18:38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

Pilate's rather blasé inquiry showed a sort f world weary disregard for philosophical musings. What he failed to perceive was that the rhetorical question was asked of he who is truth.

The bible calls four things truth, God the Father,God the Son,, God the Holy Spirit, and the word of God. One might see truth as that which is absolute, unchangeable and defines reality. There can be a difference between something that is true and truth.itself.

I once made a comment is a social setting that all psychology was wrong. When challenged to support my assertion, I said that no psychological theory of human behavior included the concept of sin. Thus not remedy drawn from such an inadequate understanding of human behavior could be anything but random in its efficacy. While my statement could see as true, to consider truth, one has to go to the bible.

. Rom_3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

More than one denomination falls short of truth. However, beyond doctrinal inaccuracies, perhaps are greater failings;

1. Failing to help each member become more like Jesus.
2. Administered as an organizational system whose mechanical nature impedes relationships.
3. Failing to show how to disentangle from the world and the flesh.
4. Presenting Christianity as a Sunday morning activity.

Someone recently intimated a dissatisfaction with the error of a particular denomination. Since we all contribute our own errors, we might have some compassion for a weaker brother, particularly if we are the weaker brother.

You have some good thoughts here but are wrong about all Psychology being random in it's effectiveness. Most psychologists know that man commits sin. It often too shows up as an independent variable in their testing. For instance the MMPI has used questions about abusing animals to gauge personalities and predict potential behaviors. Psych testing too uses a scale to test for lying. I know of one personality test often used for pre-employment screening that will flag you if you say you never have lied and they ask that question in a number of ways. A sin nature too can be substituted with other sinful behaviors that act as a proxy for researching various topics within psychology. Human behavior never has absolute truth but relative truth based on probabilities is what all the social sciences use. The bible is truth that man is sinful, even suggesting how sin comes into the heart. However, the bible does not predict who or when someone will commit those sins. I admit the bible can offer treatment plans, but psychology too can be helpful and practical in helping with all sorts of things like addictions and criminal behavior, That is not random either, but often backed with research that shows how well some sort of treatment can be successful.

 

[timothyu]

Jesus said truth comes only from the Father. That not only the foundation, but His church would be the Father's truth, which of course is following His Will, with that being we love ALL as self while He takes care of the rest. Well, looks like man failed that, but has had a good time building their own kingdoms using God to forward their own truths.