Arkansas Ten Commandments law faces legal challenge from progressive groups

[Michie]

A group of progressive organizations has filed a lawsuit against a recently passed law in Arkansas that requires public schools to display the Ten Commandments.

Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom From Religion Foundation filed a complaint on Wednesday on behalf of a religiously diverse group of parents.

At issue is Act 573, a measure signed into law by Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders in April and is scheduled to take effect in August. The lawsuit argues that "Act 573 is not neutral with respect to religion."

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Arkansas Ten Commandments law faces legal challenge from progressive groups

A group of progressive organizations have filed a lawsuit against Arkansas for a recently passed law that requires public schools to display the Ten Commandments

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[RileyG]

I’m not 100% sure how I feel about this. Hmmm….

 

[Hentenza]

The problem with this relates to the separation of church and state. As a Christian I’m happy that the Ten Commandments will be on display but the legal reality is that if one religion is allowed then others should also be allowed. Not sure am ready to see a display by the church of satan ugh.

 

[RileyG]

The problem with this relates to the separation of church and state. As a Christian I’m happy that the Ten Commandments will be on display but the legal reality is that if one religion is allowed then others should also be allowed. Not sure am ready to see a display by the church of satan ugh.

This. I agree completely. Tolerance goes both ways. It’s just a fact of life.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

The problem with this relates to the separation of church and state. As a Christian I’m happy that the Ten Commandments will be on display but the legal reality is that if one religion is allowed then others should also be allowed. Not sure am ready to see a display by the church of satan ugh.

Seperation of Church and state is then a bad principl, since one has to equate Satanism to Christianity as being equally tolerable.

 

[Hentenza]

Seperation of Church and state is then a bad principl, since one has to equate Satanism to Christianity as being equally tolerable.

Not what I said. Nothing wrong with the separation of church and state.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Not what I said. Nothing wrong with the separation of church and state.

If it disallows Christian monuments in public because you have to allow equal access to public venues for Satanists then yes there is something wrong with seperation of Church and state.

Christianity is better than Satanism and the latter should not be tolerated within society

 

[Hentenza]

If it disallows Christian monuments in public because you have to allow equal access to public venues for Satanists then yes there is something wrong with seperation of Church and state.

Christianity is better than Satanism and the latter should not be tolerated within society

It does not disallow anything. That is the whole point of the separation of church and state and equality.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

It does not disallow anything. That is the whole point of the separation of church and state and equality.

Well yes. It dissallows the expression of Christian faith on public land by equalizing all religions. Was that not your argument? That if the Ten commandments are displayed, then one has to display Satanic statues and imagery?

 

[Hentenza]

Well yes. It dissallows the expression of Christian faith on public land by equalizing all religions. Was that not your argument?

Not at all.

That if the Ten commandments are displayed, then one has to display Satanic statues and imagery?

Could not would. The satanists would have an equal argument. It’s a result of living in a free society with equal rights.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Not at all.

Yes. That is completely the position of the Satanists who want to eradicate all public expression of Christianity.

Could not would. The satanists would have an equal argument. It’s a result of living in a free society not a tyrannical one.

It is not tyrannical to forbid Satanism and Satanic displays.

 

[Hentenza]

Yes. That is completely the position of the Satanists who want to eradicate all public expression of Christianity.

It is not tyrannical to forbid Satanism and Satanic displays.

Your understanding of the freedoms afforded in the US is clouded by your hatred of the US and its government so further arguments between us will only feed your circular logic.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Your understanding of the freedoms afforded in the US is clouded by your hatred of the US and its government so further arguments between us will only feed your circular logic.

Its not that I hate America but why is it a good thing to offer Satanists freedom of religion? Especially when their religion exists purely to mock Christianity? Also of their presence alone makes expression of Christianity on public land forbidden? Why should I as a Christian support the Satanist?

 

[Hentenza]

Its not that I hate America but why is it a good thing to offer Satanists freedom of religion? Especially when their religion exists purely to mock Christianity?

In the US all religions are afforded the rights under freedom of religion. The satanist religion in the us has very few adherents and most folks don’t care for it.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

In the US all religions are afforded the rights under freedom of religion. The satanist religion in the us has very few adherents and most folks don’t care for it.

Are all religions equal? Are all religions good? Why does a historically Christian society have to respect Satanism? You're merely stating what is current practice in the USA. You're not offering an argument for it.

 

[Hentenza]

Are all religions equal? Are all religions good? Why does a historically Christian society have to respect Satanism? You're merely stating what is current practice in the USA. You're not offering an argument for it.

I’m not making an argument against any one religion with regards to legalities in the US. I’m a Christian and that is my religion.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

I’m not making an argument against any one religion with regards to legalities in the US. I’m a Christian and that is my religion.

Then you wouldnt have any moral opposition to outlawing Satanism or allowing for the display of Christian monuments?

 

[KevinT]

Are all religions equal? Are all religions good? Why does a historically Christian society have to respect Satanism? You're merely stating what is current practice in the USA. You're not offering an argument for it.

The reason that the founding fathers Incorporated a separation of state versus religion is because of history. They did not want to have a repeat of the situation that existed in the past. Look back in history and see what happens when the state picks a particular religion that all must agree with.

KT

 

[Hentenza]

Then you wouldnt have any moral opposition to outlawing Satanism or allowing for the display of Christian monuments?

How would you outlaw satanism?

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

How would you outlaw satanism?

How would you get this accomplished or how would it be implemented? The latter is easy enough so long as the will exists. But we aren't talking about how the thing would be accomplished but if it should. Do you believe in protecting Satanism to exist?