US citizen detained in Alabama by immigration officials who dismissed his REAL ID as fake

[Pommer]

This.

Any collateral damage from the Biden policy of allowing millions to flood into the country unvetted is now showing up in cases where mistakes are made, as here. Perhaps the Biden handlers shouldn't have allowed this stupid policy for almost 4 years, until it became an election issues.

How are LEOs disregarding valid identification a fault of the Biden administration?

 

[wing2000]

Now I just wish someone would go after the employers. Come on CONGRESS, do your job and fix this. Require employers to confirm that a person here is legally allowed to work here. There already is a mechanism for this. REQUIRE businesses to use it. It would solve a lot the issues.

Are not all employers required to have new employees complete I-9's?

1.0 Why Employers Must Verify Employment Authorization and Identity of New Employees

In 1986, Congress reformed U.S. immigration laws to preserve the tradition of legal immigration while seeking to close the door to unlawful entry. The employer sanctions

www.uscis.gov

In any case, the Executive Branch does not need Congress to prosecute employers. It's simply not a priority.

 

[BCP1928]

Now I just wish someone would go after the employers. Come on CONGRESS, do your job and fix this. Require employers to confirm that a person here is legally allowed to work here. There already is a mechanism for this. REQUIRE businesses to use it. It would solve a lot the issues.

It will never happens during a Republican administration, that's for sure.

 

[wing2000]

There are many people, perhaps millions, working under SSNs that were not issued to them by the Social Security Administration, but that they got from illegal sources. The government doesn't care if the money is coming in.

I thought the DOGE boys were going to solve that by handing over SSN data to DHS?

 

[DaisyDay]

I thought the DOGE boys were going to solve that by handing over SSN data to DHS?

Judge allows DOGE to access sensitive Treasury payment systems

The ruling marks a win for the Trump administration and DOGE.

abcnews.go.com

U.S. District Judge Jeannette Vargas gave permission for four DOGE employees to access the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, which essentially serves as the checkbook for the federal government. Vargas said she would no longer require the Trump administration to get permission from the court before expanding access to other DOGE representatives.

The ruling marks a win for the Trump administration and DOGE, which caused a legal firestorm in February when it tried to get access to the Treasury Department’s payment systems. A group of Democratic attorneys general sued to block their access, and Vargas temporarily blocked their access in February but permitted DOGE to build a system to access the data with appropriate training and restrictions.​

 

[rjs330]

It will never happens during a Republican administration, that's for sure.

It hasnt happened under a Democratic administration either. Despite the fact they have had plenty of opportunities to do so. This particular issue is NOT one sided. That's why I said congress not democrats.

 

[RDKirk]

It hasnt happened under a Democratic administration either. Despite the fact they have had plenty of opportunities to do so. This particular issue is NOT one sided. That's why I said congress not democrats.

The last president to make a serious effort was Eisenhower. The southern border governors handed him his head.

 

[DaisyDay]

It will never happens during a Republican administration, that's for sure.

It is happening. Small, immigrant owned businesses are being targeted by ICE.

 

[BCP1928]

It is happening. Small, immigrant owned businesses are being targeted by ICE.

Figures.

 

[RDKirk]

It is happening. Small, immigrant owned businesses are being targeted by ICE.

They know who they can bully and who to leave alone.

You won't see any Tyson's Chicken executives or managers doing a perp-walk.

 

[rjs330]

They know who they can bully and who to leave alone.

You won't see any Tyson's Chicken executives or managers doing a perp-walk.

Is this construction company management doing the perp walk after tye ICE raid and finding illegals there? I doubt it very much.

 

[RileyG]

Oh no!

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

How are LEOs disregarding valid identification a fault of the Biden administration?

Because Biden/handlers (who even knows who?) were in charge. They should have had a strict turnback policy for those who could not be identified. Instead, they just released most of them into the country and let it go until the rapes and murders of young women and the attacks on police officers started happening.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Still trying to blame everything on Biden? That’s ridiculous, if they guy wasn’t failing to comply then they had no right to use physical force or to tell him to stop videoing.

Millions are here BECAUSE of Biden stupid policies. Had that never happened, this clean up would not be necessary and mistakes like this most likely wouldn't be happening now

 

[essentialsaltes]

Millions are here BECAUSE of Biden stupid policies.

Millions were here before Biden. Millions were here before Trump. Millions were here before Obama.
The actual increase under Biden is real, but a minority of the total.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Millions are here BECAUSE of Biden stupid policies. Had that never happened, this clean up would not be necessary and mistakes like this most likely wouldn't be happening now

Ok allow me to demonstrate how ridiculous this argument is. This argument is comparable to a situation where let’s say I bought a new tv to put in the kitchen and then my son intentionally throws a basketball at it and breaks it and then you make the excuse, well if you hadn’t bought another tv he wouldn’t have broke it on purpose. The officers that arrested the guy shouldn’t have resorted to physical force unless he was resisting. And apparently since he was recording a video of what was happening obviously he wasn’t running away trying to escape. Like I said in my previous post, IF the article isn’t leaving out any information then the officers had no right to stop him from recording or to resort to physical force. If the guy provided identification and they suspected it was fraudulent they should’ve investigated the matter. That still doesn’t give them any excuse for resorting to physical force. You trying to make the lame excuse that this is Biden’s fault is just beyond absurd because regardless of whether or not he was illegal or not the officers are expected to conduct themselves in an appropriate manner which has absolutely nothing to do with Biden. That’s like me smashing into your parked car in a Walmart parking lot and saying well you shouldn’t have parked there. It’s ridiculous.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Ok allow me to demonstrate how ridiculous this argument is. This argument is comparable to a situation where let’s say I bought a new tv to put in the kitchen and then my son intentionally throws a basketball at it and breaks it and then you make the excuse, well if you hadn’t bought another tv he wouldn’t have broke it on purpose. The officers that arrested the guy shouldn’t have resorted to physical force unless he was resisting. And apparently since he was recording a video of what was happening obviously he wasn’t running away trying to escape. Like I said in my previous post, IF the article isn’t leaving out any information then the officers had no right to stop him from recording or to resort to physical force. If the guy provided identification and they suspected it was fraudulent they should’ve investigated the matter. That still doesn’t give them any excuse for resorting to physical force. You trying to make the lame excuse that this is Biden’s fault is just beyond absurd because regardless of whether or not he was illegal or not the officers are expected to conduct themselves in an appropriate manner which has absolutely nothing to do with Biden. That’s like me smashing into your parked car in a Walmart parking lot and saying well you shouldn’t have parked there. It’s ridiculous.

No, not even close. Here, in the instant case, a mistake was made, in assuming an ID was fake. These guys are overworked because of the millions who flooded in unvetted, which never should have happened and would not happen under competent leadership. This man, a citizen, was released when he verified his identity. A mistake was made. I'm sure he will still sue, perhaps be compensated, and make the left wing round of opinion shows. Of course that didn't stop the false accusations of "racism".
These guys have been doxed left and right- online and flyers posted. Yeah, they are probably a bit touchy. Maybe don't be antagonistic. Didn't we all learn that from traffic stops? "Yes officer."

In your example, your kid just broke your TV on purpose. No mistakes were made.

"Video of the arrest shows three officials wrestling him to the ground, while he yells: “I’m a citizen!”

According to an interview with the Spanish-language US news outlet Telemundo, officials took out his wallet, removed his ID – which complies with higher federal security standards for state-issued driver’s licenses as well as identification – and told him that it was fake.

Officials removed the cuffs from Garcia Venegas hours later – after he gave them his social security number, verifying his US citizenship.

His cousin, also a US citizen, told Telemundo they both went through the process of acquiring the Real ID, undergoing “the protocols the administration is asking for”.

“I feel sad because, even though we were born here, that doesn’t matter any more,” the cousin said. She added: “To have our skin color has, apparently, become a crime. And it has become a crime deserving of this type of treatment – as if we were real criminals.”

 

[DaisyDay]

No, not even close. Here, in the instant case, a mistake was made, in assuming an ID was fake. These guys are overworked because of the millions who flooded in unvetted, which never should have happened and would not happen under competent leadership.

They are overworked because of the ridiculous, unreasonable quotas - 3,000 per day. They aren't systematically tracking and arresting people, but they are surprising groups of people who may include the undocumented. They arrested a guy who was documented.

There is no true emergency. That is an excuse for the violence and lawlessness of this administration.

This man, a citizen, was released when he verified his identity. A mistake was made. I'm sure he will still sue, perhaps be compensated, and make the left wing round of opinion shows. Of course that didn't stop the false accusations of "racism".

How is the accusation of "racism" false? He told them he was a citizen and he had the proper id. How was this a mistake and not a deliberate choice? Is a bad choice the same thing as a mistake?

These guys have been doxed left and right- online and flyers posted. Yeah, they are probably a bit touchy. Maybe don't be antagonistic. Didn't we all learn that from traffic stops? "Yes officer."

Arresting officers should not be anonymous. These guys are not the only ones being doxxed, but should the courts follow suit and have masked, anonymous judges and secret jurors? I think not.

In your example, your kid just broke your TV on purpose. No mistakes were made.

"Video of the arrest shows three officials wrestling him to the ground, while he yells: “I’m a citizen!”

According to an interview with the Spanish-language US news outlet Telemundo, officials took out his wallet, removed his ID – which complies with higher federal security standards for state-issued driver’s licenses as well as identification – and told him that it was fake.

Officials removed the cuffs from Garcia Venegas hours later – after he gave them his social security number, verifying his US citizenship.

His cousin, also a US citizen, told Telemundo they both went through the process of acquiring the Real ID, undergoing “the protocols the administration is asking for”.

“I feel sad because, even though we were born here, that doesn’t matter any more,” the cousin said. She added: “To have our skin color has, apparently, become a crime. And it has become a crime deserving of this type of treatment – as if we were real criminals.”

Hours later. He had the id on him.

 

[RDKirk]

According to an interview with the Spanish-language US news outlet Telemundo, officials took out his wallet, removed his ID – which complies with higher federal security standards for state-issued driver’s licenses as well as identification – and told him that it was fake.

Officials removed the cuffs from Garcia Venegas hours later – after he gave them his social security number, verifying his US citizenship.

His cousin, also a US citizen, told Telemundo they both went through the process of acquiring the Real ID, undergoing “the protocols the administration is asking for”.

“I feel sad because, even though we were born here, that doesn’t matter any more,” the cousin said. She added: “To have our skin color has, apparently, become a crime. And it has become a crime deserving of this type of treatment – as if we were real criminals.”

I'm going to point out again that neither Real ID nor an SSN verifies that someone is a citizen. They indicate at best that someone is a legal resident. I say "at best" because I have personally known of people who have both and are not legal citizens.

If you want to verify citizenship, you have to have either an Enhanced ID (currently available only in five states) or carry a passport.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

They are overworked because of the ridiculous, unreasonable quotas - 3,000 per day. They aren't systematically tracking and arresting people, but they are surprising groups of people who may include the undocumented. They arrested a guy who was documented.

There is no true emergency. That is an excuse for the violence and lawlessness of this administration.

How is the accusation of "racism" false? He told them he was a citizen and he had the proper id. How was this a mistake and not a deliberate choice? Is a bad choice the same thing as a mistake?

Arresting officers should not be anonymous. These guys are not the only ones being doxxed, but should the courts follow suit and have masked, anonymous judges and secret jurors? I think not.

Hours later. He had the id on him.

I stated the case accurately A mistake was made here and the guy was released, hence the leftwing parrots are trotting this example out incessantly and ignoring worst mistakes as in protesting for Abrego Garcia, who has been indicted for human trafficking from 2016 to 2025, since being returned to this country.

You can't just let anyone wander into the country and worry about vetting them later IF they are arrested for a crime. Would you do that in your home where your family lives? No. You have to vet them thoroughly first before letting them into the country; that is the essence of the immigration system. Any system as stupid as the Biden open borders is an invitation to criminals...and they came, completely foreseeably, and mixed in with actual asylum seekers. Who didn't see that coming? I guess the Democrats didn't, inexplicably.