I was a borderline atheist until an experience left me "unsure." Up for debate and discussion as long as things remain cordial.
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Hi, Just call me Bob. Agnostic up for friendly debate
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OK, a little extra background on my "experience" I was as I said an agnostic but with no actual belief. I was on holiday with someone I liked (a lot). Things were probably never going to progress but the day she left for home I got very drunk. I left the bar and faced a decision - turn right for my room, turn left and walk into the sea. I was turning right to be fair but I spotted a small church and walked inside. In my state I asked for help and was slightly "ill"
I saw a light and felt warmth! To quote the Pink Floyd song "I turned to look but it was gone" but I was left with an overwhelming sense of guilt, shame and warmth.
To this day I do not know if what I saw was real or just the product of excessive alcohol and depression. I am still an "unbeliever" and an agnostic, but I wish that moment had lasted longer.
I saw a light and felt warmth! To quote the Pink Floyd song "I turned to look but it was gone" but I was left with an overwhelming sense of guilt, shame and warmth.
To this day I do not know if what I saw was real or just the product of excessive alcohol and depression. I am still an "unbeliever" and an agnostic, but I wish that moment had lasted longer.
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If I'm understanding correctly:
Looking for Love
Feeling sadness and/or emptiness when Love is absent
Encountering something you cannot necessarily explain
Looking for "more"
Sounds like you are on a narrow but good path.
"Seek and you shall find"
"Open the door and He shall come in and dine"
Looking for Love Feeling sadness and/or emptiness when Love is absent Encountering something you cannot necessarily explain Looking for "more"Sounds like you are on a narrow but good path.
"Seek and you shall find"
"Open the door and He shall come in and dine"
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Check out John Burke's work. Might give you some expanded thoughts.
We are all unsure until we have a few experiences with God.
He does cool things.
My suggestion to you, is to ask God to show Himself to you.
He responds to humble people, and He is always overjoyed to welcome people in and show them who He is.
No complicated stuff, just "Jesus if you are real, show me."
This is when He started showing me who He is, and I've seen it happen to many others.
I do not think, personally, that it was the alcohol.
(But I know Him already, so I'm cheating a little bit here. lol)
We are all unsure until we have a few experiences with God.
He does cool things.
My suggestion to you, is to ask God to show Himself to you.
He responds to humble people, and He is always overjoyed to welcome people in and show them who He is.
No complicated stuff, just "Jesus if you are real, show me."
This is when He started showing me who He is, and I've seen it happen to many others.
I do not think, personally, that it was the alcohol.
(But I know Him already, so I'm cheating a little bit here. lol)
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I used to be into whatever mind-numbing substance I could get. Raised Christian, mind you. I eventually became a heroin addict, hooked on pot, cigarettes and alcohol became the stick once I got "clean". One day, lying in my bed....I saw a shining man who leaned in and gave me his hand. Upon grabbing his hand, I realized I had been in a grave, and he had pulled me up. I will never forget...the thought that I had no clue why I was "supposed" to believe, what did it all mean, why did my family honor Christ...it left me and I dedicated my life to Jesus. I will never regret it. I got completely sober, changed my life, got a real job, got a real relationship with my family, married a wonderful man.
I will only say that if I hadn't taken a chance on my encounter, I do honestly think I wouldn't have such a rich and full life right now...I probably still would be struggling, making petty mistakes and wasting my life. But look - what do you *feel your experience amounts to? Do you *feel like the Lord was reaching out to you? Once I watched "The Boondock Saints", and I saw Willem Dafoe talking about right from wrong. It was quite compelling, his character being a homosexual police officer, and he was struggling with the faith of the Catholic brothers, who were very devout. I learned later that Willem Dafoe also played Jesus in the Last Temptation of Christ. Hey - it meant something to me!
But the journey is completely about you. Whatever you get out of it...is valid.
I will only say that if I hadn't taken a chance on my encounter, I do honestly think I wouldn't have such a rich and full life right now...I probably still would be struggling, making petty mistakes and wasting my life. But look - what do you *feel your experience amounts to? Do you *feel like the Lord was reaching out to you? Once I watched "The Boondock Saints", and I saw Willem Dafoe talking about right from wrong. It was quite compelling, his character being a homosexual police officer, and he was struggling with the faith of the Catholic brothers, who were very devout. I learned later that Willem Dafoe also played Jesus in the Last Temptation of Christ. Hey - it meant something to me!
But the journey is completely about you. Whatever you get out of it...is valid.
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The Lord is calling you to Himself. If the impact is this strong and this convicting it definitely is not a result of being drunk. It is a result of God having mercy on you and turning you to walk the way you did instead of into the water where you could have drowned. This is not coincidence brother. Come to the family and become an adopted child of God and see yourself what we see that you can't see right now!
Matthew 13:16 in the King James Version, where Jesus says to His disciples:
"But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear."
In this passage, Jesus is acknowledging the disciples' ability to understand the mysteries of the kingdom of God, which many others do not. It's a reminder of the privilege and blessing of spiritual insight, as the disciples were able to grasp the deeper meanings of His teachings.
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OHH love or a broken heart woke you up enough to hear/ see/ feel Him ? That should speak volumes to anyone who wants to be more than narcissistic. LET OUR maker fix what sin broke and then follow him to the answers and the freedom of the Children of God, freedom from the death that numbs . I WILL PRAY FOR YOU !
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I'm sorry everyone.
I did not join to troll or anything. I was (as I am now) a bit "under the influence" when I first posted and did not return once I sobered.
I "become sensible" when I am sober, though I cannot of late shift a nagging doubt.
My "sober self" is too embarrassed to be here, please bear with me.
I wish you all well in the meantime.
I did not join to troll or anything. I was (as I am now) a bit "under the influence" when I first posted and did not return once I sobered.
I "become sensible" when I am sober, though I cannot of late shift a nagging doubt.
My "sober self" is too embarrassed to be here, please bear with me.
I wish you all well in the meantime.
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