If there are many pagan gods born of virgins, among other coincidences with Jesus, how can we be sure that Christianity is the correct religion?

[timf]

In regard to the subject of "proof" consider what Abraham told the rich man about his brothers;

Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Islam spread through fear and the sword. Christianity spread even under periodic persecution. The reason was because of limited mobility most people lived and died where they were born. They knew each other more deeply than people do today. When someone changed from a shrewish wife to a loving mother or from a drunken father to a hard working man, people saw the truth of Christianity in practice and wanted it for themselves.
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Today most people do not recognize the power of Christianity because most Christians remain fleshly (immature) in their walk.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

How can we know that Christianity can't be considered a plagiarism? Why should it be the religion of the true God?

The following passages were written 800 years before Jesus. Who does it sound like?

Isa 53:4-12 Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken. And they made His grave with the wicked—But with the rich at His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was any deceit in His mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand. He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities. Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors.​

A man was offered as a sacrificial lamb, he was cut off from the land of the living, i.e. he died for our sins.

 

[JSRG]

At the time of Christ there were over ten mystery religions around the Mediterranean many that virgin birth stories, most with resurrection stories..

Such as? I've been unable to find any, let alone over ten. And don't just list them off, provide primary sources that prove it; someone earlier in this topic listed several deities or legendary figures who supposedly were of virgin birth, but upon looking into it, it appears none of them actually were. People, especially on the Internet, will just claim such-and-such was of virgin birth but are unable to actually provide evidence, most likely because there is none.

Satan knew approximately when Jesus would be born as did the three wise men (having access to the writings of Daniel). It might be surmised that it was Satan's intent to have the story of Jesus lost among other "religions".

More plausibly, the claims of these other religions having virgin birth stories are just made up, given the apparent inability of anyone to provide evidence that they ever did.

If Satan is indeed responsible for anything in regards to this, it would be in fooling people into believing these false claims about there being a bunch of virgin birth stories before or around the time of Christ, when it appears there weren't.

 

[Muhan]

How can we know that Christianity can't be considered a plagiarism? Why should it be the religion of the true God?

That is a question that only you can find that answer, out for yourself. No one else can do it for you.

 

[ByGraceandLoveDivine]

if no one know who he was we would know that our religion is false but becuase Jesus Christ is the Son of God our lord and savior God our father has exalted him over all others so that every person on earth may know the truth and be saved.

 

[Zceptre]

Physical and historical evidences will eventually reach an end point.

The only thing that is really going to establish for fact that Jesus Christ is the real deal and is Lord, is prayer and watching Him respond to those prayers.

A personal relationship in this manner is the only concrete evidence I've ever seen that sticks. Doubt is the easiest and most prolific tool the little devils use and it doesn't take much to destroy a lot.

But when a person prays to God, knows their own life and situation and circumstances, and especially if they record their prayers in a book or log of some kind... we become shocked at just how many prayers are actually answered.

People that think prayer doesn't work, are people who don't pray much. When we talk to God and bring our problems to Him, He helps. It is then, and only then, that we know Jesus Christ is Lord of our life, on our side, and with us like He promised.

This doesn't mean life becomes a lazy river, or that every prayer is answered the way we want. But they are answered and He is there.

The Bible is established in the relationship between a person and God. I sought "evidence" all my life, and it helps I'll admit. But the relationship is the deal sealer. Nothing can replace it.

 

[Godcrazy]

How can we know that Christianity can't be considered a plagiarism? Why should it be the religion of the true God?

well you are talking to someone who was deep in the new age and the occult. This might be a bit long.
you definitely need to check Constance Combey "the hidden dangers of the rainbow". you can find it free online or you can find her interviews on youtube. She comes in on this and more. She was a x politician and lawyer and spent years doing research. She lists the evidence side by side that the new age, the occult, satanism and the like uses compares it with the nwo`s agenda. It is identical, and she proves it. She also comes in on the book where the first groups have everything from. It boils down to fallen angels, the nephilim, the fallen ones. check genesis 6, Timothy Alberino, Endtimesproductions, Tom Horn and LA marzulli and Russ Dizdar on youtube. They do come in on much about all this and the rabbit hole is very deep, and also a lot more. But technically, from the fallen ones. Also check fourthwatchfilms.com and see the film higher entities. More flesh on it. check the watchmen too /Russ Dizdar. and the book the black awakening.
But yes the fallen ones. They came down and mated with human women and taught them everything occult and how to open portals. These ones are not gods, but they are the so called gods of old, wanting to be worshipped as gods, mainly as they coveted what the real God
gets.worship. They also wanted to decieve mankind and lead them into darkness.
This have continued to this day. The new age and the occult gets their stuff from Aleister Crowley the famous satanist and from theosophic society, Alice Bayley and earlier Helena Blavatsky. She sat with the fallen ones directly that dictated her books. see Spangler and especially Roger Morneau, and mystery babylon church on youtube.
Crowley said directly that all what the new age is doing is borrowed by satanism and wanted it back. the teachings of teosophic society and satanism is what nwo believes and part of their plan. all chided by fallen ones.
In the film higher entities(fourthwatchfilms.com) they talk to eyewitnesses either directly involved or in the near by that have worked with entities that call themselves the nephilim in the underground bases in Nevada among other. People with high top clearance and they were told by the entities themselves that they are the nephilim(genesis 6) and that they were preparing an intergalactic war with God. and they thought they could win(which they cannot as created cannot win over infinite) this is from the horse mouth. They are responsible for all crafts we see too. and tech. Like in the days of Noah says the bible. which was a high tech civilisation. God flooded it as Noah was the only one pure. pure of what. dna.
see no smoke no truth.
the fallen ones are the ones giving themselves out to be god even teosophic society and the satanists claim that lucifer is god when he is a created being not god. that want gods power and worship. this is the core of all their teachings. do not be decieved. check what I have given you. also pray to jesus. ask him to show you and he will. and repent he will come to you and give you peace.

 

[Godcrazy]

Physical and historical evidences will eventually reach an end point.

The only thing that is really going to establish for fact that Jesus Christ is the real deal and is Lord, is prayer and watching Him respond to those prayers.

A personal relationship in this manner is the only concrete evidence I've ever seen that sticks. Doubt is the easiest and most prolific tool the little devils use and it doesn't take much to destroy a lot.

But when a person prays to God, knows their own life and situation and circumstances, and especially if they record their prayers in a book or log of some kind... we become shocked at just how many prayers are actually answered.

People that think prayer doesn't work, are people who don't pray much. When we talk to God and bring our problems to Him, He helps. It is then, and only then, that we know Jesus Christ is Lord of our life, on our side, and with us like He promised.

This doesn't mean life becomes a lazy river, or that every prayer is answered the way we want. But they are answered and He is there.

The Bible is established in the relationship between a person and God. I sought "evidence" all my life, and it helps I'll admit. But the relationship is the deal sealer. Nothing can replace it.

It is amazing what He can do

 

[Godcrazy]

you have to check TREY SMITH on youtube he`s got the evidence

 

[Godcrazy]

I fact-checked the first one - Hermes.

According to the myth, Hermes was born as the son of Zeus, the king of the Olympian gods, and Maia, a mountain nymph who was the daughter of the Titan Atlas. His birth took place in a cave on Mount Cyllene in Arcadia, a region in southern Greece.

Nothing about a virgin birth on wikipedia. Why are you claiming such thing?

Hermes was a fallen angel.

 

[trophy33]

Hermes was a fallen angel.

No, he was a part of the Greek mythology. Myths are ancient ways of how to communicate some natural, psychological, social realities or religious ideas in a non-scientific way. In a way of stories.

 

[Zceptre]

No, he was a part of the Greek mythology. Myths are ancient ways of how to communicate some natural, psychological, social realities or religious ideas in a non-scientific way. In a way of stories.

You are sharing your opinion based on conjecture. If you can prove any of that definitively it would be more effective and people wouldn't brush off the post as emotionally based opinions removed of any solid foundations.

Greek mythology is steeped in demonology and the worship of idols of the past. Zeus is a representation of Satan (for those that do their homework, it is not... hard to find) and there is a massive pantheon of other pagan "gods" that are also connected to and/or listed in the Old Testament. Greek "myths" are not based on cute stories made up for children, otherwise they would not have spent thousands of man hours creating gigantic statues to worship and give honor and reverence and wrapped the entire culture around them and lifestyle as well. The term "gods" itself is a dead level giveaway to anyone lacking personal bias that it is based in pagan religious ideology.

The "giants" from the Bible in Genesis 6 and on, all the way through into king David's encounter with the "six fingers and six toes" giant Goliath correlates and parallels the Greek "mythology" you are speculating to be fictional. People write things off, like in this post I'm responding to, quite frequently, but they do so with very little if any real work in research or diligent study.

The moment anyone goes and does 45 minutes of research they will realize the connections exist and they are suddenly loaded down with thousands of leads to follow and thousands of relevant associations, sources, extra-Biblical documentation and overlapping entities from the Biblical historical accounts.

Once that happens... good luck convincing them with "No," or "mythology" or "stories."

Fat chance they are buying speculative blanket statements after that.

 

[trophy33]

@Zceptre your post is so badly formatted that it does not even allow to use the Reply button.

To your point - No, it is not "my opinion" based on "conjecture". It is actually a standard academic approach based upon centuries of studies.

Your wild individual religious/literal interpretation of myths is not too interesting to me. It is not based on anything factual.

 

[Zceptre]

@Zceptre your post is so badly formatted that it does not even allow to use the Reply button.

To your point - No, it is not "my opinion" based on "conjecture". It is actually a standard academic approach based upon centuries of studies.

Your wild individual religious/literal interpretation of myths is not too interesting to me. It is not based on anything factual.

You cited nothing but an opinion.

Convince us all.

 

[trophy33]

You cited nothing but an opinion.

Convince us all.

My experience is that people like you are not possible to convince by citing something. If you were objectively interested in mythology, you would not require citation for the standard academic approach that is being taught in every school.

 

[Zceptre]

My experience is that people like you are not possible to convince by citing something. If you were objectively interested in mythology, you would not require citation for the standard academic approach that is being taught in every school.

Sure.

Let them dig for themselves.

Ciao

 

[ozso]

How can we know that Christianity can't be considered a plagiarism? Why should it be the religion of the true God?

I examined the so-called virgin births of pagan gods and they in no way really resemble the virgin birth of Christ. When you investigate claims like that, instead of accepting them at face value, they turn out to be ridiculous.

Also the coming of the Messiah has always been in the structure of Judaism. And since this is the year 5785 according to the Jewish calendar, who copied whom?

 

[Zceptre]

I examined the so-called virgin births of pagan gods and they in no way really resemble the virgin birth of Christ. When you investigate claims like that, instead of accepting them at face value, they turn out to be ridiculous.

This.

Also, Genesis 3:15 is the prediction of the virgin birth, so it wouldn't be surprising that the enemy knew about this in advance being that God told Satan to his face that it was going to happen when God officially declared war against him.

 

[ozso]

You are sharing your opinion based on conjecture. If you can prove any of that definitively it would be more effective and people wouldn't brush off the post as emotionally based opinions removed of any solid foundations.

Greek mythology is steeped in demonology and the worship of idols of the past. Zeus is a representation of Satan (for those that do their homework, it is not... hard to find) and there is a massive pantheon of other pagan "gods" that are also connected to and/or listed in the Old Testament. Greek "myths" are not based on cute stories made up for children, otherwise they would not have spent thousands of man hours creating gigantic statues to worship and give honor and reverence and wrapped the entire culture around them and lifestyle as well. The term "gods" itself is a dead level giveaway to anyone lacking personal bias that it is based in pagan religious ideology.

The "giants" from the Bible in Genesis 6 and on, all the way through into king David's encounter with the "six fingers and six toes" giant Goliath correlates and parallels the Greek "mythology" you are speculating to be fictional. People write things off, like in this post I'm responding to, quite frequently, but they do so with very little if any real work in research or diligent study.

The moment anyone goes and does 45 minutes of research they will realize the connections exist and they are suddenly loaded down with thousands of leads to follow and thousands of relevant associations, sources, extra-Biblical documentation and overlapping entities from the Biblical historical accounts.

Once that happens... good luck convincing them with "No," or "mythology" or "stories."

Fat chance they are buying speculative blanket statements after that.

The connection with Hermes and angles in scripture is that Hermes was a winged messenger, and the word angel means messenger and some of the nine types of angels in scripture are described as having wings.

 

[ozso]

This.

Also, Genesis 3:15 is the prediction of the virgin birth, so it wouldn't be surprising that the enemy knew about this in advance being that God told Satan to his face that it was going to happen when God officially declared war against him.

I think there's that and also probably God's plan for mankind bled into pagan religions. For instance it might not be a coincidence that the Egyptian symbol representing eternal life, the Ankh, resembles the Christian cross.