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Multiple immigration sweeps reported across Los Angeles, with a tense standoff/protest downtown; SEIU union leader arrested

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The LEOs are all geared up to take down “bad guys” whilst rousting food preparers.
How many AR-15s does it take to arrest a busboy?
They're taking illegal aliens into custody like they've always done. Pretty soon it's going to be described as a battalion of 100 black ops agents armed with phased plasma rifles going after a blind 4 year old quadriplegic with terminal cancer.
 
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They're taking illegal aliens into custody like they've always done. Pretty soon it's going to be described as a battalion of 100 black ops agents armed with phased plasma rifles going after a blind 4 year old quadriplegic with terminal cancer.
They're putting on a show, a show for people just like you. Why not just sit back and enjoy it? It's what you wanted, isn't it? Tough zero tolerance against people who have committed the most heinous crime imaginable?
 
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They're putting on a show, a show for people just like you. Why not just sit back and enjoy it? It's what you wanted, isn't it? Tough zero tolerance against people who have committed the most heinous crime imaginable?
They're not the ones putting on the show. What they're actually doing is pretty mundane. All of the hype, hyperbole, over-exaggeration, sensationalism, melodrama is coming from elsewhere.
 
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And that's why HSI and ICE needs to use protective tactical gear.
Yeah because what they’re doing isn’t being welcomed by most people. Showing up to fight a war at a local Home Depot isn’t a good way to get the public and local community on your side.
 
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I figured the national guard would have to be brought in eventually.
With a president with a penchant for theater and tv ratings and wannabe dictatorial tendencies, a blind man should have seen this coming.
 
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Yeah because what they’re doing isn’t being welcomed by most people. Showing up to fight a war at a local Home Depot isn’t a good way to get the public and local community on your side.
Places like Home Depot have been raided for decades. Obama was nicknamed the Deporter in Chief. The only thing really new about this is the current reaction to it.
 
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Yeah because what they’re doing isn’t being welcomed by most people. Showing up to fight a war at a local Home Depot isn’t a good way to get the public and local community on your side.
Local communities should be supporting America, not ethnic gang tactics.
 
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Places like Home Depot have been raided for decades.
That’s the thing though. Why go make these arrests at a Home Depot? Is that where all the violent MS13 members are known to hang out? These guys are dressed like they’re about to storm the bin Laden compound and they’re just arresting Hector the gardener. Someone came looking for a big fight. It shouldn’t be a surprise they got one finally.
Obama was nicknamed the Deporter in Chief.
And? While he was president the right thought he wasn’t doing enough on deportations. Now you seem to be saying he was even more effective than Trump with less chaos surrounding his deportations. Just another thing to add to the long list of Trump failures and inferiority to his predecessor.
The only thing really new about this is the current reaction to it.
People have been protesting ICE detentions and deportations peacefully for decades now. This administration doesn’t want peace. They want a spectacle.
 
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That’s the thing though. Why go make these arrests at a Home Depot? Is that where all the violent MS13 members are known to hang out? These guys are dressed like they’re about to storm the bin Laden compound and they’re just arresting Hector the gardener. Someone came looking for a big fight. It shouldn’t be a surprise they got one finally.

And? While he was president the right thought he wasn’t doing enough on deportations. Now you seem to be saying he was even more effective than Trump with less chaos surrounding his deportations. Just another thing to add to the long list of Trump failures and inferiority to his predecessor.

People have been protesting ICE detentions and deportations peacefully for decades now. This administration doesn’t want peace. They want a spectacle.
They raid places known to harbor illegal aliens. That's their job. And has been for decades. All of a sudden certain people have decided to go berserk over it. A peaceful protest is staying out of the way, not getting in the way trying to obstruct law enforcement.
 
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If he’s willing to do that and take away my authority as governor as commander-in-chief of those National Guard, boy, we do have a war on our hands

said then-governor Kristi Noem.

[TX governor] Abbott said last month that federalizing the National Guard would be “boneheaded”
 
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Tensions flare outside federal detention facility in downtown Los Angeles

Tensions flared in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday night as a group of protesters gathered at around 8 p.m. outside a federal detention facility on Temple Street, according to footage posted to social media.
Video showed flash-bang grenades and tear gas were deployed by law enforcement soon after the start of the protest. Officers with the Los Angeles Police Department congregated outside the building, forming a skirmish line, holding up shields to create a barrier.

Police declared an unlawful assembly, and around 10 p.m., half a dozen protesters were seen being detained by officers, according to KCAL-9 News.

Two arrested on suspicion of assault as three deputies are injured [in Paramount], officials say

While ugly, at this point, it's clearly well within the abilities of LAPD and the sheriffs. Nobody is asking for Trump to 'help'.
 
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If he’s willing to do that and take away my authority as governor as commander-in-chief of those National Guard, boy, we do have a war on our hands

said then-governor Kristi Noem.

[TX governor] Abbott said last month that federalizing the National Guard would be “boneheaded”
Only republicans are allowed to threaten with civil war.
 
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I constantly see these false equivalencies by the left, and this Texas governor being compared to the violence we see erupting in Los Angeles is no different. Am I the only person seeing this?

...Or is this fallacy acceptable, because it's done using "facts"?
 
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I'm convinced that the problems in the world are all a result in people's inability to understand the varying degrees of right and wrong. There simply has to be a common metric for it if we're all the same species. There has to be something real in regards to this! And clearly, assaulting officers is not the same as a threat.
 
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I think everyone should be concerned by those select people on the left (not all), who view physical violence as an acceptable means of political responsiveness. This needs to stop. It's been suggested here in this thread several times, and in other similar threads, and I can cite the posts if need be.
 
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this Texas governor being compared to the violence
Comparing a governor to violence? Nobody's doing that. The question is 'what circumstances justify a president to call out the Guard in opposition to the wishes of the state's governor?'

Current DHS secretary Noem's answer when she was governor was tantamount to "over my dead body".
 
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