Bishop Barron Vigorously Defends Himself Against Accusations He Is Catholic

[Michie]

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.​

Leave it to Commonweal, the progressive Catholic magazine that has spent decades softening, reinterpreting, and relativizing doctrine, to suddenly pretend Vatican II means something concrete. In a recent article, they accuse Bishop Robert Barron of leading the charge to “bury” the Council, citing his critique of “beige Catholicism” as evidence of a dangerous new right-wing current.

It’s almost touching. The people who helped engineer the collapse of the Church now feel threatened by the man who spent his entire career canonizing their revolution with better fonts.

Barron, of course, was outraged. In a video that manages to be both defensive and performatively wounded, he reassures us that Vatican II has been the “lodestar” of his intellectual life. He’s spent decades publishing commentaries, hosting dialogues, and building an entire Word on Fire media empire whose chief purpose is to sell the Council to an audience that never asked for it. And now someone dares to suggest he’s not loyal enough?

It’s a little like Robespierre complaining that the mob is getting out of hand.

The Strange Optics of Mutual Accusation​

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Bishop Barron Vigorously Defends Himself Against Accusations He Is Catholic

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.

bigmodernism.substack.com

 

[chevyontheriver]

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.​

Leave it to Commonweal, the progressive Catholic magazine that has spent decades softening, reinterpreting, and relativizing doctrine, to suddenly pretend Vatican II means something concrete. In a recent article, they accuse Bishop Robert Barron of leading the charge to “bury” the Council, citing his critique of “beige Catholicism” as evidence of a dangerous new right-wing current.

It’s almost touching. The people who helped engineer the collapse of the Church now feel threatened by the man who spent his entire career canonizing their revolution with better fonts.

Barron, of course, was outraged. In a video that manages to be both defensive and performatively wounded, he reassures us that Vatican II has been the “lodestar” of his intellectual life. He’s spent decades publishing commentaries, hosting dialogues, and building an entire Word on Fire media empire whose chief purpose is to sell the Council to an audience that never asked for it. And now someone dares to suggest he’s not loyal enough?

It’s a little like Robespierre complaining that the mob is getting out of hand.

The Strange Optics of Mutual Accusation​

Continued below.

Bishop Barron Vigorously Defends Himself Against Accusations He Is Catholic

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.

bigmodernism.substack.com

Nope. I’m with Barron on this. Against Commonweal and against the haters of Vatican II from The neo-pre-Vatican II sedevacantist leaning supposed right wing of the Church.

Vatican II wasn’t perfect in all it’s parts but the attempt to overthrow it is an alien thing, from those clamoring for the ‘spirit of Vatican II’ to those wanting to even undo Vatican I.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.​

Leave it to Commonweal, the progressive Catholic magazine that has spent decades softening, reinterpreting, and relativizing doctrine, to suddenly pretend Vatican II means something concrete. In a recent article, they accuse Bishop Robert Barron of leading the charge to “bury” the Council, citing his critique of “beige Catholicism” as evidence of a dangerous new right-wing current.

It’s almost touching. The people who helped engineer the collapse of the Church now feel threatened by the man who spent his entire career canonizing their revolution with better fonts.

Barron, of course, was outraged. In a video that manages to be both defensive and performatively wounded, he reassures us that Vatican II has been the “lodestar” of his intellectual life. He’s spent decades publishing commentaries, hosting dialogues, and building an entire Word on Fire media empire whose chief purpose is to sell the Council to an audience that never asked for it. And now someone dares to suggest he’s not loyal enough?

It’s a little like Robespierre complaining that the mob is getting out of hand.

The Strange Optics of Mutual Accusation​

Continued below.

Bishop Barron Vigorously Defends Himself Against Accusations He Is Catholic

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.

bigmodernism.substack.com

The article is wrong in stating that it comes from a "progressive" attack on Bishop Barron.
In the X video itself, Bishop Barron says the source of the attacks is from "right-leaning"
articles.

 

[narnia59]

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.​

Leave it to Commonweal, the progressive Catholic magazine that has spent decades softening, reinterpreting, and relativizing doctrine, to suddenly pretend Vatican II means something concrete. In a recent article, they accuse Bishop Robert Barron of leading the charge to “bury” the Council, citing his critique of “beige Catholicism” as evidence of a dangerous new right-wing current.

It’s almost touching. The people who helped engineer the collapse of the Church now feel threatened by the man who spent his entire career canonizing their revolution with better fonts.

Barron, of course, was outraged. In a video that manages to be both defensive and performatively wounded, he reassures us that Vatican II has been the “lodestar” of his intellectual life. He’s spent decades publishing commentaries, hosting dialogues, and building an entire Word on Fire media empire whose chief purpose is to sell the Council to an audience that never asked for it. And now someone dares to suggest he’s not loyal enough?

It’s a little like Robespierre complaining that the mob is getting out of hand.

The Strange Optics of Mutual Accusation​

Continued below.

Bishop Barron Vigorously Defends Himself Against Accusations He Is Catholic

Barron and Commonweal are fighting over Vatican II. The joke is that they’re both on the same team.

bigmodernism.substack.com

I am always suspicious of an article that makes accusations (as this one done against Bishop Barron) but provides no supporting evidence or actual links so the reader can read or hear what was said in context. So what you get is the author's subjective view of something that was said which may have no basis in reality whatsoever.

I tried to research the first one (that he said that that Bishop Barron "Claimed Adam and Eve were merely “theological poetry,” not real historical persons". I couldn't find anything specific enough to tell if that's accurate or not. I would seriously question whether the word "merely" was used and without it, it's an entirely different statement. My guess is the "Merely" was part of the author's subjective take, not actually said.

I did find this very good article by Fr. Dwight Longnecker who said he couldn't comment specifically on what Bishop Barron said without all the facts, but he gave a very Catholic understanding of why something being referred to as "myth" or "theological poetry" does not mean it's not also real and true. But some people can never seem to understand that concept.

Is the Adam and Eve Story a Myth? | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

There has been some chit chat about whether or not Bishop Robert Barron believes Adam and Eve were historical figures or whether they were "myth". I can't judge the matter because I haven't seen Bishop Barron's full take on the subject, but if I remember correctly he said the Adam and Eve story...

dwightlongenecker.com

 

[concretecamper]

Vatican II didn't need to happen. No clarification of doctrine came from it. The only thing that resulted from it was confusion.

Bishop Barron "jumped the shark" when he told Ben Shapiro that Jesus is "the preferred way"

 

[RileyG]

Nope. I’m with Barron on this. Against Commonweal and against the haters of Vatican II from The neo-pre-Vatican II sedevacantist leaning supposed right wing of the Church.

Vatican II wasn’t perfect in all it’s parts but the attempt to overthrow it is an alien thing, from those clamoring for the ‘spirit of Vatican II’ to those wanting to even undo Vatican I.

Well said, brother!

 

[RileyG]

Vatican II didn't need to happen. No clarification of doctrine came from it. The only thing that resulted from it was confusion.

Bishop Barron "jumped the shark" when he told Ben Shapiro that Jesus is "the preferred way"

I agree, he could have said Jesus is the ONLY way, but he misspoke.

 

[Michie]

I agree, he could have said Jesus is the ONLY way, but he misspoke.

Misspoke?

 

[RileyG]

Misspoke?

Saying Jesus is the preferred way. He should have worded it better, imo.

 

[Michie]

Saying Jesus is the preferred way. He should have worded it better, imo.

And maybe he meant what he said.

 

[concretecamper]

I agree, he could have said Jesus is the ONLY way, but he misspoke.

He didn't want to offend at the expense of truth, a product (child) of VII

 

[Michie]

He didn't want to offend at the expense of truth, a product of VII

I like Barron in a lot he has done but he did not misspeak. He has said several things I found questionable. But as the article said, maybe he is protecting his brand. But I have no doubt he is Catholic and I do not think he has gone as far where it should be questioned.

 

[concretecamper]

I like Barron in a lot he has done but he did not misspeak. He has said several things I found questionable. But as the article said, maybe he is protecting his brand. But I have no doubt he is Catholic and I do not think he has gone as far where it should be questioned.

The worst kind of heretic is the one who, while teaching mostly true Catholic doctrine, add a word of heresy, like a drop of poison in a cup of water.

— Pope Leo XIII

 

[Michie]

The worst kind of heretic is the one who, while teaching mostly true Catholic doctrine, add a word of heresy, like a drop of poison in a cup of water.

— Pope Leo XIII

True.

 

[RileyG]

The worst kind of heretic is the one who, while teaching mostly true Catholic doctrine, add a word of heresy, like a drop of poison in a cup of water.

— Pope Leo XIII

Amen!

 

[Valletta]

I tried to research the first one (that he said that that Bishop Barron "Claimed Adam and Eve were merely “theological poetry,” not real historical persons". I couldn't find anything specific enough to tell if that's accurate or not. I would seriously question whether the word "merely" was used and without it, it's an entirely different statement. My guess is the "Merely" was part of the author's subjective take, not actually said.

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