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‘I’m not a criminal’: Military wife detained, deported at Honolulu airport when trying to visit husband stationed on Oahu

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This is a horrible incident but ideologues emphasize incidents like this to condemn overall efforts to conduct sound policy on the large scale.
While open borders and chaos reign, it is denied and any efforts to actually control matters undermined. It is almost impossible to discuss anything about sound borders, immigration, refugees etc. because humanitarian crises are rhetoric weapons.

When chaos reigns:



It is denied, concerns condemned & efforts to control are also condemned. Discussions are futile, meanwhile let us defer to the anointed.
 
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This is a horrible incident but ideologues emphasize incidents like this to condemn overall efforts to conduct sound policy on the large scale.
While open borders and chaos reign, it is denied and any efforts to actually control matters undermined. It is almost impossible to discuss anything about sound borders, immigration, refugees etc. because humanitarian crises are rhetoric weapons.
And what has any of that to do with a non-criminal military wife being summarily deported?
When chaos reigns:


It is denied, concerns condemned & efforts to control are also condemned. Discussions are futile, meanwhile let us defer to the anointed.
Yeah, it's so weird! From 2017 until 2021 there was no immigrant crime, but suddenly on Jan 20, 2021 chaos erupted! They were eating the cats! They were eating the dogs! Now all the pets are safe in Springfield once again!

It's the immigrants causing the chaos!!! And maybe the universities....
 
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And what has any of that to do with a non-criminal military wife being summarily deported?

Yeah, it's so weird! From 2017 until 2021 there was no immigrant crime, but suddenly on Jan 20, 2021 chaos erupted! They were eating the cats! They were eating the dogs! Now all the pets are safe in Springfield once again!

It's the immigrants causing the chaos!!! And maybe the universities....
The thrust of this thread and your rhetoric is about maintaining open doors, condemning sound policy, and concerns otherwise. Your explosion confirms most of it to me and why discussion is useless.
 
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Id like to know more. But if all this is true then I'm not a fan. We want illegals and criminals deported or those that are being disruptive.

At this point, I'm a bit skeptical about the details of this story.
There are quite a few mishaps with immigration that are spilling over to innocent folks. It is well known that just because you have a visa you can still be denied entry. Those with fiance visas for the US are denied entry about 1% of the time. Of course it would be more convenient to revoke the visa before travel. The treatment here though is appalling. Here is another incident that went badly for ICE.

There are of course others though the list is not long and mistakes are sure to happen. But common sense is lacking in these detentions, arrests and raids.
 
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While open borders and chaos reign, it is denied and any efforts to actually control matters undermined. It is almost impossible to discuss anything about sound borders, immigration, refugees etc. because humanitarian crises are rhetoric weapons.
It is impossible to talk about this stuff when people keep insisting that USA has open borders, It does not.
If you want to discuss things talk honestly, don't purposefully over exaggerate, to make some kind of cheap political stab.
 
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The thrust of this thread and your rhetoric is about maintaining open doors, condemning sound policy, and concerns otherwise. Your explosion confirms most of it to me and why discussion is useless.
You're mistaken - I am in favor of sound policy. It's this dystopian miasma that the rapidly declining, morally bankrupt authoritarian president has created that I oppose.
 
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The thrust of this thread and your rhetoric is about maintaining open doors, condemning sound policy, and concerns otherwise. Your explosion confirms most of it to me and why discussion is useless.

American leftists only criticize the American people for wanting a secure border.

The woman in the article needs to get her immigration affairs resolved. It's her fault. My Mexican husband's papers were properly processed and approved. If we can do it so can they.
 
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So you want open borders and anyone who doesn't is an "authoritarian", right? That's a RADICAL position.
Wrong, once again. It's a straw man position. Congrats on consistency.
 
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The thrust of this thread and your rhetoric is about maintaining open doors, condemning sound policy, and concerns otherwise. Your explosion confirms most of it to me and why discussion is useless.

What?
 
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“They kept telling me that I had too many clothes in my suitcase. So because of that, they assumed that I was going to overstay my visa,” she said.
It's all for show. ICE has to be seen as above the law, so they need to create a few theatrical incidents like this to show us that they can with impunity whenever they want.
 
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American leftists only criticize the American people for wanting a secure border.
American leftists are American people same as Maga Americans - only more so because we respect the Constitution.
 
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American leftists only criticize the American people for wanting a secure border.
This thread criticizes the government doing something unjust and horrible.


The woman in the article needs to get her immigration affairs resolved. It's her fault.
Wrong. She had an Australian passport and a travel visa, and was travelling to the US to visit her husband.
 
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This thread criticizes the government doing something unjust and horrible.



Wrong. She had an Australian passport and a travel visa, and was travelling to the US to visit her husband.

There is apparently more to the story.
 
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