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Woke terrorist shoots two Israel Embassy Staff members in cold blood.

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Do you agree that it might be being used as a dog whistle by some groups of people?
It really doesn't seem that likely. The overt and obvious meaning of freeing Palestine from occupation is clearly in the forefront of current events.

What is this dog whistle supposed to do? It's supposed to appeal to Klansmen in the US who are supposed to recognize that it's really about antisemitism and increase support for the Palestinian cause by appealing to a common racism?

I mean, the point of 'racist dog whistles' is to subtly let your fellow racists know that you're on their team or share their concerns about 'them'.
 
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It really doesn't seem that likely. The overt and obvious meaning of freeing Palestine from occupation is clearly in the forefront of current events.

What is this dog whistle supposed to do? It's supposed to appeal to Klansmen in the US who are supposed to recognize that it's really about antisemitism and increase support for the Palestinian cause by appealing to a common racism?

I mean, the point of 'racist dog whistles' is to subtly let your fellow racists know that you're on their team or share their concerns about 'them'.
Which of course is exactly what people are doing when they chant "Free Free Palistine". They are sharing their letting their fellow racists, which include some of the most evil people imaginable, that you are on their team. As of course was amply demonstrated by these murders.
 
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Incorrect. The Arabs have never seen a distinction. All Isrealis are Jews. This has been see for thousands of years. Their leaders who cozied up to Hitler is evidence of that. In the more modern history.
Ah, more "actual history." You know, the last time we talked about this the only question I had for you then and still have is, where are you getting this stuff? I know you have research some of it yourself and think it holds up, but I'm talking about the overall narrative: that the violent actions of the Palestinans have been directed at Israelis and their sympathizers not because they are Israelis, but because they are Jews. Where did that come from?
 
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Which of course is exactly what people are doing when they chant "Free Free Palistine". They are sharing their letting their fellow racists, which include some of the most evil people imaginable, that you are on their team. As of course was amply demonstrated by these murders.
He subtly murdered two people and then gave the secret handsign?
 
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It really doesn't seem that likely.

Why doesn’t it seem that likely?

The overt and obvious meaning of freeing Palestine from occupation is clearly in the forefront of current events.

A dog whistle is supposed to be covert and hidden behind a seemingly harmless word or phrase.

What is this dog whistle supposed to do?

What is any dog whistle supposed to do?

It's supposed to appeal to Klansmen in the US who are supposed to recognize that it's really about antisemitism and increase support for the Palestinian cause by appealing to a common racism?

Yes, that could be a possibility given that there is a lot of antisemitism on the left as well.

I mean, the point of 'racist dog whistles' is to subtly let your fellow racists know that you're on their team or share their concerns about 'them'.

If that’s all a dog whistle is supposed to do then what’s the big deal when someone on the right allegedly does it?
 
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He subtly murdered two people and then gave the secret handsign?

It’s like when Trump is accused of being openly racist since he was young yet is still also accused of dog whistling to racists. Doesn’t make sense does it?
 
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It distresses me that not many credible people condemn the murder of Jews.

What do you mean? The antisemetic bill went into effect last year after the protests at Columbia. Perhaps you missed the headlines?

~bella
 
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A dog whistle is supposed to be covert and hidden behind a seemingly harmless word or phrase.
Right and "Free Palestine" is hardly an innocuous phrase in the context of the ongoing conflict. It has a bold and explicit political meaning. If you are Bibi Netanyahu, this phrase is not anodyne.

If that’s all a dog whistle is supposed to do then what’s the big deal when someone on the right allegedly does it?
If they are communicating with fellow racists, that would be an admission that they are racist.
 
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Which of course is exactly what people are doing when they chant "Free Free Palistine". They are sharing their letting their fellow racists, which include some of the most evil people imaginable, that you are on their team. As of course was amply demonstrated by these murders.

No it isn’t and we just had a protest here the other day and someone covered it. The words are self-explanatory and they’re not a group of racists chanting some secret slogan. They’re asking for the war to end and speaking up for the Palestinians. That’s biblical.

“Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.”

~bella
 
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No it isn’t and we just had a protest here the other day and someone covered it. The words are self-explanatory and they’re not a group of racists chanting some secret slogan. They’re asking for the war to end and speaking up for the Palestinians. That’s biblical.

“Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.”

~bella
Are you kidding me, I haven't been able to wear a toothbrush mustache my whole entire life, because it reminds people of the Nazi's. But chanting slogans that terrorist killers use is A-OK... The hypocrisy runs thick.
 
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Hamas has officially adopted the slogan "From the river to the sea" and uses it in their communications and materials, including their 2017 charter... For that reason, one who's careful and prudent, won't use that slogan.

Similarly, the use of the phrase "free Palestine" is also a rallying cry used by the terrorist group.
Hint: there’s more than two bins
 
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Hint: there’s more than two bins
I'll be quite honest here, in saying that I truly believe there must be a feeling of an erotic nature that goes along with aiding dangerous or otherwise disenfranchised groups and their terrorist sponsors. I have no idea what kind of sensory effects must go on there, but I'm not captivated by it. We're capable of much higher level decision-making than that.
 
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I'll be quite honest here, in saying that I truly believe there must be a feeling of an erotic nature that goes along with aiding dangerous or otherwise disenfranchised groups and their terrorist sponsors. I have no idea what kind of sensory effects must go on there, but I'm not captivated by it. We're capable of much higher level decision-making than that.
MAGA makes this problem so much worse
 
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Are you kidding me, I haven't been able to wear a toothbrush mustache my whole entire life, because it reminds people of the Nazi's. But chanting slogans that terrorist killers use is A-OK... The hypocrisy runs thick.

What kind of effeminate jaberwocky led you to that conclusion? Good grief.

~bella
 
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I guess this belongs in politics if it can be made politically useful.

We have been doing nothing but give warning after warning after warning for years and years and years and years!!!!

It's not political it's people's lives, yet still no one heeds the warnings!!!!

What else can even be said. We told you everything until we were blue in the face.
 
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No it isn’t and we just had a protest here the other day and someone covered it. The words are self-explanatory and they’re not a group of racists chanting some secret slogan. They’re asking for the war to end and speaking up for the Palestinians. That’s biblical.

“Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.”

~bella

From the river to the sea

Do they know what river and what sea?

Do they know that in saying "Palestine will be free (from the zionist Jews) that it necessitates wiping the Jews off the map - quite literally calling for the actual extinction of the state of Israel and the people in it? (It's Israel between the river and the sea)

Do they know the Muslims won't leave even an infant to survive?

What they are calling for is genocide of an indigenous people and no... That is absolutely NOT biblical!

Don't dare call the calling for the extinction of a people and their ability to be self governing Biblical. God sets up nations, and the modern state of Israel is a state and as a people they have a right to be self determinate and a right to self defense - as God has shown us His will.
 
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Don't dare call it Biblical.

You’re projecting your experiences and lack of judgment on others unfairly. Just because you crossed the line doesn’t mean others will do the same. Protesting the war in Gaza doesn’t make them terrorist supporters or otherwise. The majority would never follow suit.

~bella
 
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