President Trump Signs Executive Order to Defund NPR and PBS

[BCP1928]

I'm against tax payers paying for it.

And other taxpayers are for it. If you've got the votes then you win--but that's the only reason. Phony arguments about bias don't cut it.

 

[Belk]

I'm a taxpaing US citizen and I don't watch or read PBS/NPR, if a person enjoys it then they should fund it through viewer subscriptions and donations, keep the taxpayer out of it

Defund PBS/NPR Keep The Taxpayer Out Of It

Your opinion is noted. However, you offer nothing beyond a personal reason why you feel you should not fund it.

 

[Belk]

The topics you view can be found a LOT of various places. Music, travel, animals and just about anything else.

I have not found that to be the case. I have found very few places where I can find travel shows of the likes of Rick Steves or Rudy Maxa other then PBS. Likewise with Nature, Nick on Rocks, Finding your Roots and other such educational programs.

Like I said, I'm not against PBS or NPR. I'm against tax payers paying for it. There is NO NEED for it. None. Its one place we can cut and it would harm no one.

I am asking why you are against tax payers paying for it. What is your objection to it other then your claim there is no need?

 

[Laodicean60]

I have not found that to be the case. I have found very few places where I can find travel shows of the likes of Rick Steves or Rudy Maxa other then PBS. Likewise with Nature, Nick on Rocks, Finding your Roots and other such educational programs.

But these shows can be found on their websites.

 

[BCP1928]

But these shows can be found on their websites.

Whose websites?

 

[Laodicean60]

Whose websites?

https://www.trumpstore.com/

Who elses website?

 

[Truth7t7]

Your opinion is noted. However, you offer nothing beyond a personal reason why you feel you should not fund it.

"False"

Why taxpayer dollars shouldn't fund PBS/NPR

Example: the taxpayer should fund a website (Liberty USA) and its content surrounds 100% Guns, Rifles, and Ammo I like that programming personally, and say 70% don't support it, why should tax dollars support something 70% have no interest in

Why should gra

 

[rjs330]

And other taxpayers are for it. If you've got the votes then you win--but that's the only reason. Phony arguments about bias don't cut it.

There arent any phony arguments. Just like the arguments for the reasons yo keep it aren't phony. And like you said, the one with the most votes wins. At this point we are the ones who won. So we want to cut the taxpayer payments.

 

[rjs330]

I have not found that to be the case. I have found very few places where I can find travel shows of the likes of Rick Steves or Rudy Maxa other then PBS. Likewise with Nature, Nick on Rocks, Finding your Roots and other such educational programs.

You can watch on YouTube and Prime. There are tons of natire videos on almost ever streaming service, cable, satellite and Roku. Taxpayers dont need to fund your favorite program.

I am asking why you are against tax payers paying for it. What is your objection to it other then your claim there is no need?

There is no need is the BEST reason to not fund it. Its the first rule in budgetary wisdom. Especially when we are deficit spending. Cutting programs that seriously offer no benefit, because we have tons of other options that are not paid for by the taxpayers just is common sense.
The political aspect of NPR is a secondary reason as taxpayers shouldn't be paying for a politically biased news organization. We might as well be funding FOX News.

 

[Belk]

You can watch on YouTube and Prime. There are tons of natire videos on almost ever streaming service, cable, satellite and Roku. Taxpayers dont need to fund your favorite program.

Currently, yes. But the reason they are on those platforms is because they were funded from PBS and are now expanded out.

There is no need is the BEST reason to not fund it. Its the first rule in budgetary wisdom. Especially when we are deficit spending. Cutting programs that seriously offer no benefit, because we have tons of other options that are not paid for by the taxpayers just is common sense.
The political aspect of NPR is a secondary reason as taxpayers shouldn't be paying for a politically biased news organization. We might as well be funding FOX News.

OK. Thank you. So if there IS a need for it, say if there was some benefit to be found from it that can not be found in other programing, would that be sufficient in your mind to keep it's funding?

 

[Bradskii]

In 2023, the US had a trade deficit of $67.9 billion dollars with Canada...

As I said, Trump was lying to you. You can't simply make up a figure and say 'Hey, we've got a big military and you haven't so I'm adding that in as well'. If you want to fall for junk like that then that's on you. But the whole discussion these last few weeks is trade deficits and tariffs. And the trade deficit that you have with Canada is $60 billion. Which exists for reasons that have been explained to you.

It doesn't include fantasy figures that Vance has pulled out of Trump's nether regions. Please try and maintain a contact with the real world and not the one in which Trump exists.

 

[Truth7t7]

As I said, Trump was lying to you. You can't simply make up a figure and say 'Hey, we've got a big military and you haven't so I'm adding that in as well'. If you want to fall for junk like that then that's on you. But the whole discussion these last few weeks is trade deficits and tariffs. And the trade deficit that you have with Canada is $60 billion. Which exists for reasons that have been explained to you.

It doesn't include fantasy figures that Vance has pulled out of Trump's nether regions. Please try and maintain a contact with the real world and not the one in which Trump exists.

When you consider all factors as the article did it most likely could be close to $200 annually who cares, $67 Billion in itself is a bunch of money

We have liberals in this world that would complain if Trump cured cancer, they have nothing better to do because their looking through the shopping store window, and can't get a pass to go shopping

It's amazing how much president Trump is getting done in lightning speed!

MAGA, America First

 

[Bradskii]

When you consider all factors as the article did it most likely could be close to $200 annually who cares, $67 Billion in itself is a bunch of money...

Who cares that the president is making up figures and lying to you? Let me think who should that be...well, it should be you for one.

I'll put money on you not knowing what the actual figure was. Trump says $200 billion and you accepted it immediately. Even though any article on US/Canada economics will give you figures that are nowhere near that. Now that you've eventually done the work and looked for the actual deficit you've discovered that the administration has arbitrarily added $130 billion. They just pulled that out of the air, presumably thinking that a big, fat round number like $200 billion would impress people like you.

Here's an article that gives an even lower figure for the deficit, as in 2023: Despite Trump's claims, U.S. doesn't really have a trade deficit with Canada. Here's why

But the U.S. trade deficit with Canada isn’t actually that big. As of 2023, it was around $32 billion. And, here’s the thing: While Canada does have a trade surplus with the United States — the other side of the trade deficit coin — it’s due almost entirely to oil and gas purchased by the U.S.

Oil, critical for fuelling refineries in the U.S. Midwest, is purchased at a substantial discount, processed and re-sold. If you take Canadian oil out of the equation, Canada actually has a trade deficit, and the U.S. has a surplus — of $58 billion.

 

[Truth7t7]

Who cares that the president is making up figures and lying to you? Let me think who should that be...well, it should be you for one.

I'll put money on you not knowing what the actual figure was. Trump says $200 billion and you accepted it immediately. Even though any article on US/Canada economics will give you figures that are nowhere near that. Now that you've eventually done the work and looked for the actual deficit you've discovered that the administration has arbitrarily added $130 billion. They just pulled that out of the air, presumably thinking that a big, fat round number like $200 billion would impress people like you.

Here's an article that gives an even lower figure for the deficit, as in 2023: Despite Trump's claims, U.S. doesn't really have a trade deficit with Canada. Here's why

But the U.S. trade deficit with Canada isn’t actually that big. As of 2023, it was around $32 billion. And, here’s the thing: While Canada does have a trade surplus with the United States — the other side of the trade deficit coin — it’s due almost entirely to oil and gas purchased by the U.S.

Oil, critical for fuelling refineries in the U.S. Midwest, is purchased at a substantial discount, processed and re-sold. If you take Canadian oil out of the equation, Canada actually has a trade deficit, and the U.S. has a surplus — of $58 billion.

Trump could cure cancer and liberals would still rant against it

It's not a matter of the actual figure being exact or even close, it's all about hate conservatives and their leader Donald J. Trump IMHO

I thank God the liberals are in the back seat now, shoe is on the other foot now and Donald J. Trump us moving full steam ahead

MAGA America First!

 

[Bradskii]

It's not a matter of the actual figure being exact or even close...

It actually is. He wants to throw his weight around with Canada and to make sure he gets you onside, he lies to you about the deficit. What gets me is that you know he's constantly lying to you (you've now discovered it about the deficit) but you just don't seem to care.

 

[Truth7t7]

It actually is. He wants to throw his weight around with Canada and to make sure he gets you onside, he lies to you about the deficit. What gets me is that you know he's constantly lying to you (you've now discovered it about the deficit) but you just don't seem to care.

It's about liberals who hate Donald J. Trump and they would complain if he cured cancer

It's about liberals rolling on the floor kicking their feet watching their agenda being dismantled before their eyes

The US Supreme court recently upheld president Trumps ban on DEI in the Military, the once open southern border in the US is closed as tight as a drum deportation is in full swing, men in women's sports is on its way out the door, liberal colleges pushing the woke agenda are being cut from federal funding, liberal media outlets PBS/NPR are being cut from taxpayer funding

These are just a few mentions on why liberals hate Donald J. Trump and why conservatives as myself support him

Trump MAGA, America First

 

[Bradskii]

It's about liberals who hate Donald J. Trump....

I'm not talking about why people dislike Trump. I'm talking about why you actually know that he's lying to you and you completely ignore it. I just don't get it. I can't understand it. This has nothing to do with him. It's about you and others who refuse to acknowledge it.

If our current PM (who runs a party that I support) was caught lying to the Australian public then it wouldn't be acceptable in any way. His own party would vote him out of the leadership. If they didn't then the parliament would vote him out. If they didn't then I'd be taking to the streets with thousands of others demanding that he resign. Yet you accept it as being entirely normal. It's business as usual. Point out that he lied about the deficit and your response is 'well, it's no big deal, it's a big figure anyway'.

This is some quite some Faustian bargain you've entered into. And this being a Christian forum. Where people are supporting this type of behaviour.

 

[Truth7t7]

If our current PM (who runs a party that I support) was caught lying to the Australian public then it wouldn't be acceptable in any way. His own party would vote him out of the leadership. If they didn't then the parliament would vote him out. If they didn't then I'd be taking to the streets with thousands of others demanding that he resign. Yet you accept it as being entirely normal. It's business as usual. Point out that he lied about the deficit and your response is 'well, it's no big deal, it's a big figure anyway'.

This is some quite some Faustian bargain you've entered into. And this being a Christian forum. Where people are supporting this type of behaviour.

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[rjs330]

OK. Thank you. So if there IS a need for it, say if there was some benefit to be found from it that can not be found in other programing, would that be sufficient in your mind to keep it's funding?

There aren't any. There isn't any need for it. Nature programs, travel programs etc are all available on other platforms just like I mentioned. Tons of those programs, 24 hours a day.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

You can repeat your opinion 100 more times, I dont care if 10 Canadian citizens live in the country, Canada maintains a trade surplus with the US and as Donald J. Trump stated before the world, the tariffs will remain on Canada the surplus is going to be stopped

While President Trump can make statements, he is bound by the laws of physics and biology. It is unreasonable to believe that he can defy these natural laws.

Basic arithmetic is that the consumption capacity of 41 million Canadians cannot match that of 340 million Americans. Regardless of personal beliefs held by President Trump's supporters, the math remains straightforward.