DeTrumpify yourself app

[probinson]

Like I said, some people aren't getting it.

No, I get it. I just think it's idiotic. Much like Trump's tariffs. But you know what they say; two idiotic things don't result in sanity. Or something along those lines.

 

[probinson]

Some people just like to feel like they're "doing something". They don't really care if that "something" is helpful or beneficial in any way. I guess that's why I'll never fully understand it. I've never been one to "do something" just to do something. I just can't fool myself into thinking not buying US food products is anything more than a meaningless, nonsensical gesture that will make absolutely no difference.

I guess to some people, as long as they feel they're "flipping the bird", it makes them feel accomplished.

 

[Bradskii]

I guess to some people, as long as they feel they're "flipping the bird", it makes them feel accomplished.

What sort of world do you live in? Do you only do something when it's guaranteed to make a substantial difference to society? Have you never signed a petition? Ranted at some moronic talking head on the TV? Voted for someone who had no chance of winning? Stopped buying factory farm eggs? We do things all the time that change nothing. But we don't do them to feel 'accomplished'. We do them for some personal, internal satisfaction. And if you know others are doing the same then there's a sense of community. You're not alone. There are others that feel the same way.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Seems that you have to pay for it these days.

It costs a buck o five.

 

[stevil]

The fact that you specifically picked the 3 countries that are the "target of progressive ire" would suggest otherwise.

I'm not a progressive.

"I want to specifically avoid the US, Russia, and Israel...but perhaps prioritize buying stuff that comes from Ukraine" does sound a bit like a virtue crusade...sorry.

I explained why, but you chose to ignore my explaination and the presumed to know otherwise about me. Well done.

You see, I just buy from the people who I think offer a good product.

Good for you, you are such a good guy. You are virtuous. Bravo, If I had a medal, I'd pin it on you. Clap, clap, clap...

For example, one of the breweries I frequent from is about as "woke" as you can get. (every version of the pride flag is hanging up in the place, and politically speaking, I have virtually nothing in common with the owner, staff, or 3/4 of the other clientele...but they make excellent beer and do a fun movie/music trivia night every week...and that's what I'm going there for...I'm not looking to make a political statement with my pub trivia night)

Otherwise, you get upset when people fly a pride flag?? It bothers you?

Put the shoe on the other foot.

If someone said, "I'm going to buy some pizza, I realize this other place is better, but nah, I'm only going to buy pizza from establishments where the owner and employees are pro concealed carry even if it tastes worse", that would sound pretty stupid right?

They can do what they want, I don't care.

As far as the "US having crappy products"

When you find good alternatives for US's offerings of:
US Movies & TV entertainment

Oh my, don't get me started on how bad USA is at making entertainment.
Formulaic, shallow, brain dead stuff.

Medical technology innovation
Apple/Microsoft/Intel/NVIDIA/AMD

Sure, USA isn't bad at everything. I just don't want to buy any of their products right now.

Space technology

Hmmm, next time I'm thinking of booking a flight to outer space, maybe I'll consider China, Russia or India,

Gibson/Fender/Gretch guitars

All you really need is a plank of wood to tighten the strings over. The actual guitar does not make any difference to the sound.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Otherwise, you get upset when people fly a pride flag?? It bothers you?

Not really, I was just highlighting the fact that I'll gladly do business with someone who has a differing political view if they make a good product that I'm looking for.

Not every purchase or product consumption has to be an extension of one's political views.

Hence the reason I poked some fun at the people burning Nike's and shooting bud light in their backyard (and I guess we can add the "I hate Tesla" crowd to the mix now as well)

All you really need is a plank of wood to tighten the strings over. The actual guitar does not make any difference to the sound.

...yeah, you're wrong on that one lol.

 

[probinson]

What sort of world do you live in?

A rather peaceful and serene world, where I don't live in a constant state of angst and outrage.

Do you only do something when it's guaranteed to make a substantial difference to society?

I only do something if I believe it will have meaningful, positive results.

Have you never signed a petition?

No.

Ranted at some moronic talking head on the TV?

Yes, privately, to my wife. Then I get myself under control and realize moronic talking heads on TV aren't worth my time and energy.

Voted for someone who had no chance of winning?

No.

Stopped buying factory farm eggs?

No.

We do things all the time that change nothing.

Who is this "we" you speak of? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

I think that doing things that I know will change nothing is a remarkable waste of effort. Maybe you have time for futility, but I just don't have that kind of energy to waste on nothing.

But we don't do them to feel 'accomplished'. We do them for some personal, internal satisfaction.

Yes, you've accomplished internal satisfaction, which gives the illusion of accomplishment without any meaningful accomplishment.

And if you know others are doing the same then there's a sense of community. You're not alone. There are others that feel the same way.

Yeah, I don't really understand this either. It's like when everyone on social media decides they're going to change their profile picture because they believe this shows solidarity. All it really shows is laziness. People want to feel accomplished without actually doing anything. Boycotts are the perfect solution.

 

[wing2000]

I didn't realize that Americans didn't have freedom before.

"Free trade" is so yesterday. I mean, for 70+ years, America has promoted free trade as a means for countries to progress their economies. Protectionism, socialism and communism were for for losers. Now, we have the POTUS telling Americans they don't need so much stuff....

 

[Aryeh Jay]

"Free trade" is so yesterday. I mean, for 70+ years, America has promoted free trade as a means for countries to progress their economies. Protectionism, socialism and communism were for for losers. Now, we have the POTUS telling Americans they don't need so much stuff....

We need to go back to the good old days, one car per household, and limit houses to 1200 sq feet and one bathroom. A waver for an additional 1/2 bath can be issued for a reasonable fee.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

We need to go back to the good old days, one car per household, and limit houses to 1200 sq feet and one bathroom. A waver for an additional 1/2 bath can be issued for a reasonable fee.

The scary part is that if President Trump were to suggest a policy like this, many of his supporters might find reasons to advocate for its implementation.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The scary part is that if President Trump were to suggest a policy like this, many of his supporters might find reasons to advocate for its implementation.

For some it would be a giant step up.

 

[Nithavela]

Would you prefer idiot signaling?

I'd prefer some one who virtue signals over someone who signals their lack of virtue.

 

[Hans Blaster]

We need to go back to the good old days, one car per household, and limit houses to 1200 sq feet and one bathroom. A waver for an additional 1/2 bath can be issued for a reasonable fee.

I'm not sure what I would do with more than that.

 

[durangodawood]

I'm not sure what I would do with more than that.

Man cave
Model railroad
Grow room
?

 

[durangodawood]

As far as the "US having crappy products"

When you find good alternatives for US's offerings of:
US Movies & TV entertainment

Well youve loaded the question there. I mean no other country offers US movies and TV. But people are increasingly tuning in to British and Korean offerings. US movie and tv products seem to be on the decline.

Medical technology innovation

That we can afford?

Apple

Mostly imported already

/Microsoft/Intel/NVIDIA/AMD

Ok you got me there.

Space technology

Im not currently shopping for that.

Gibson/Fender/Gretch guitars

Korea and Japan have made amazing guitars for decades You might even be surprised how many Strat players prefer their cheaper Mexican made product to American.

You should have asked about critical roles like "online content creator". Now theres where America truly stands out.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

And virtue signaling? What a nonsensical description of it. It has nothing to do with morality. It's a way of flipping the bird. It's a comment on Trump and his idiotic positions.

Keeping in mind, the user also mentioned avoiding Israeli products and prioritizing Ukrainian ones whenever possible.

How exactly do those preferences flip the bird at Trump?


Websters defines virtue signaling as
the act or practice of conspicuously displaying one's awareness of and attentiveness to political issues, matters of social and racial justice


I would say wandering around the store, conspicuously scanning barcodes, and then when the big picture of Trump with the red X shows up saying "That's made in the USA, so I'll put that back" (and desperately hoping someone will ask what they're doing so they can tell them all about it or race home and brag about it on facebook) would qualify.

 

[stevil]

Not really, I was just highlighting the fact that I'll gladly do business with someone who has a differing political view if they make a good product that I'm looking for.

I don't care what political affiliation people or companies have.

Not every purchase or product consumption has to be an extension of one's political views.

Sure, not sure why you are telling me this.

Hence the reason I poked some fun at the people burning Nike's and shooting bud light in their backyard (and I guess we can add the "I hate Tesla" crowd to the mix now as well)

People have every right to choose to spend their money however they see fit.
If they are worried that profits from their purchases are going towards a war effort to invade or conquer or do genocide, they might think, yeah, I'd rather buy a different brand.
If they are worried that international trade is being stuffed up, and their own country is being extorted and bullied, they might decide, yeah, I'll but products from a different country.
It has nothing to do with supporting a particular political party or attacking a particular political party, neither does it have anything to do with being partisan left or partisan right.

...yeah, you're wrong on that one lol.

No, I'm absolutely right.
The guitar body makes absolutely no difference to the sound. (if we are talking electric guitar)
The electronic components make a difference, and you should use fresh strings. But what wood is used, what brand of guitar is bought, makes absolutely no difference.

 

[Bradskii]

I only do something if I believe it will have meaningful, positive results.

What an odd way to live.

Yeah, I don't really understand this either.

Then I can't help you any further.

 

[probinson]

No, I'm absolutely right.
The guitar body makes absolutely no difference to the sound. (if we are talking electric guitar)
The electronic components make a difference, and you should use fresh strings. But what wood is used, what brand of guitar is bought, makes absolutely no difference.

When it comes to electric guitars, the wood used in construction can have a significant impact on the instrument’s overall tone and performance. Different woods can produce different timbres, and so choosing the right wood for your guitar is an important consideration. In this article, we’ll take a look at some of the most common woods used in electric guitars, and discuss their sonic characteristics.​

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The Different Woods Used In Electric Guitars – Mozart Project

www.mozartproject.org

 

[probinson]

What an odd way to live.

I feel the same way about people who do things they know are futile. Perhaps it's because my work is focused on improving efficiency that I find these things to be nothing more than silly distractions preventing any real progress.