AND DID PAUL BAPTIZE ANYONE AT ALL ?

[Dan Perez]

In 1 Cor 1:14 it reads , I give thanks that I BAPTIZED none of you , EXCEPT CRISPUS and GAIUS .

But the Greek word WATER // HYDOR is not in the GREEK TEXT !!

What say you , if it is NOT water , how did Paul BAPTIZE // BAPTISO , them ??

And is BAPTISM FOR TODAY ??

WHAT SAY YOU ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

In 1 Cor 1:14 it reads , I give thanks that I BAPTIZED none of you , EXCEPT CRISPUS and GAIUS .

But the Greek word WATER // HYDOR is not in the GREEK TEXT !!

What say you , if it is NOT water , how did Paul BAPTIZE // BAPTISO , them ??

And is BAPTISM FOR TODAY ??

WHAT SAY YOU ??

dan p

Yes, he did.
Water is tacitly understood, as man can't baptize with anything else and continue the church's tradition.

 

[Dan Perez]

Yes, he did.
Water is tacitly understood, as man can't baptize with anything else and continue the church's tradition.

Yes, he did.
Water is tacitly understood, as man can't baptize with anything else and continue the church's tradition.

And in 1 Cor 1:14 I give thanks to G0D that I BAPTIZED ( PLEASE NOTICE the Greek word for WAYER // HUDOR is

not sed IN Greek text ) none of you except Crispus and Gaius

Then in verse 15 , LEST // is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE , That I could NOT BAPTISE , LEST anyone should

that I had BAPTIZED FOR MY NAME .

And in verse 17 , FOR CHRIST , did , NOT // is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , which means did NOTTTTTTT

send me to BAPTIZE , but to PREACH the GOSPEL , with wisdom , of word in order that the CROSS of CHRIST should

NOT // is also a DISUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE , NOTTTTTTTTT , BE made EMPTY .

And I do have more verses , and will for your reply

And WATER BAPTISM is just ONE of most DIVEDER in the bible !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And in 1 Cor 1:14 I give thanks to G0D that I BAPTIZED ( PLEASE NOTICE the Greek word for WAYER // HUDOR is

not sed IN Greek text ) none of you except Crispus and Gaius

So we have documented cases of Paul baptizing others.
As the only means of one man's baptism of another is water, it is not necessary to keep repeating the word "water" every time baptism is mentioned.

Then in verse 15 , LEST // is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE , That I could NOT BAPTISE , LEST anyone should

that I had BAPTIZED FOR MY NAME .

Your misquote of the English is noted.
Was that accidental, or was it on purpose to make some unbiblical point ?
Paul was glad he had not baptized more men, because he feared man would accuse him of using his own name instead of the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

And in verse 17 , FOR CHRIST , did , NOT // is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , which means did NOTTTTTTT
send me to BAPTIZE , biut to PREACH the GOSPEL , with wisdom , of word in order that the CROSS of CHRIST should
NOT // is also a DISUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE , NOTTTTTTTTT , BE made EMPTY .

Paul's ministry was not focused on steps 2, 3, or 4, as step number one, (the death and resurrection of Christ), was necessary before further steps needed to be mentioned.

And I do have more verses , and will for ylur reply
And WATER BAPTISM is just ONE of most DIVEDER in the bible !!
dan p

I agree that baptism has turned into one of the devil's most divisive tools.
As Peter says it is the means of the remission of past sins, (Acts 2:38), to neglect it would be a grave error.

 

[Dan Perez]

So we have documented cases of Paul baptizing others.
As the only means of one man's baptism of another is water, it is not necessary to keep repeating the word "water" every time baptism is mentioned.

Your misquote of the English is noted.
Was that accidental, or was it on purpose to make some unbiblical point ?
Paul was glad he had not baptized more men, because he feared man would accuse him of using his own name instead of the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

Paul's ministry was not focused on steps 2, 3, or 4, as step number one, (the death and resurrection of Christ), was necessary before further steps needed to be mentioned.

I agree that baptism has turned into one of the devil's most divisive tools.
As Peter says it is the means of the remission of past sins, (Acts 2:38), to neglect it would be a grave error.

I have VERY bad fingers EYES and i agree that many , are depending on WATER BAPTISM and BEING BORN AGAIN

which is really speaking to Israel .

Think abouit this , we should all know that Israel will back in the LAND of ISRAEL , where Christ will rule as

high PRIEST and that DAVID will also rule'

And we know that the BODY OF CHRIST , will GOVERN the UNIVERSE and GOVERN , ANGEL

Where would you rather be ?

AND Christ has SAID , that EYES and EARS have not SEEN what Christ has PREPATED for those that LOVE HIM

so where would you rather BE ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

I have VERY bad fingers EYES and i agree that many , are depending on WATER BAPTISM and BEING BORN AGAIN

which is really speaking to Israel .

Think abouit this , we should all know that Israel will back in the LAND of ISRAEL , where Christ will rule as

high PRIEST and that DAVID will also rule'

And we know that the BODY OF CHRIST , will GOVERN the UNIVERSE and GOVERN , ANGEL

Where would you rather be ?

AND Christ has SAID , that EYES and EARS have not SEEN what Christ has PREPATED for those that LOVE HIM

so where would you rather BE ??

dan p

I have VERY bad fingers EYES

I too sometimes suffer from "fat-finger" disease...LOL

and i agree that many , are depending on WATER BAPTISM and BEING BORN AGAIN
which is really speaking to Israel .

If that were true, then the Ethiopian eunuch, Cornelius and his household, the Philippian jailer, the twelve at Ephesus, and the many at Corinth were water baptized unnecessarily.
I can't imagine the apostles letting that occur.
But I know that whether Jew of Gentile, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ remits past sins: without which, nobody will see heaven.

Think abouit this , we should all know that Israel will back in the LAND of ISRAEL , where Christ will rule as
high PRIEST and that DAVID will also rule'
And we know that the BODY OF CHRIST , will GOVERN the UNIVERSE and GOVERN , ANGEL
Where would you rather be ?

Heaven, or on the new earth.
Either one will be good, as long as I have access to Jesus and our Father.

AND Christ has SAID , that EYES and EARS have not SEEN what Christ has PREPATED for those that LOVE HIM
so where would you rather BE ??
dan p

That promise sure strengthens my efforts to remain sinless until Jesus returns with His angels !

 

[Dan Perez]

I too sometimes suffer from "fat-finger" disease...LOL

If that were true, then the Ethiopian eunuch, Cornelius and his household, the Philippian jailer, the twelve at Ephesus, and the many at Corinth were water baptized unnecessarily.
I can't imagine the apostles letting that occur.
But I know that whether Jew of Gentile, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ remits past sins: without which, nobody will see heaven.

Heaven, or on the new earth.
Either one will be good, as long as I have access to Jesus and our Father.

That promise sure strengthens my efforts to remain sinless until Jesus returns with His angels !

Even said in Rom 7:15 , But what things I do NOT // OU , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , meaning that I tried

THIS I DO '

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Even said in Rom 7:15 , But what things I do NOT // OU , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , meaning that I tried
THIS I DO '
dan p

In most of Romans 7, Paul is narrating his pre-conversion laments.
His narrative is of a time when he still walked in the flesh, and was trying unsuccessfully to please God with Law keeping.
But that is a new thread...

 

[Dan Perez]

In most of Romans 7, Paul is narrating his pre-conversion laments.
His narrative is of a time when he still walked in the flesh, and was trying unsuccessfully to please God with Law keeping.
But that is a new thread...

And your thought as where SAUL / PAUL was saved , in the book of ACTS 9 ?

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And your thought as where SAUL / PAUL was saved , in the book of ACTS 9 ?

dan p

Saul/Paul was converted in Acts 9, but it won't be until after his judgement that we will be able to say with certainty that he is saved.
Most of his Romans 7 writings, were a reflection on his past.

 

[Dan Perez]

Saul/Paul was converted in Acts 9, but it won't be until after his judgement that we will be able to say with certainty that he is saved.
Most of his Romans 7 writings, were a reflection on his past.

AND I argee that Saul / Paul was saved in Acts 9:5 !!

And in 1 Cor 12:3 and no ONE is ABLE to say LORD JESUS , EXCEPT by HOLY SPIRIT .

So what did SAUL / PAUL call jesus in Acts 9:5 , LORD and that word means , SIR or MASTER ,

And in 1 Tim 1:15 Saul / Paul , to saved SINNERS of whom I AM FIRST // PROPOS .

Then in 1 Tim 1:16 Paul is the PATTERN of the ONES coming to to believe on HIM , UNTO everlasting LIFE .

You did not KNOW that you are a DISPENSATIONALST , and did NOT KNOW IT !!

And get on BLUE LETTER BIBLE and IMITATE , Paul !

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

AND I argee that Saul / Paul was saved in Acts 9:5 !!

I didn't say he was saved.
I said he was converted.
He still had plenty of life to go before his death, and still more time until the day of judgement.
His salvation will only be determined then.

And in 1 Cor 12:3 and no ONE is ABLE to say LORD JESUS , EXCEPT by HOLY SPIRIT .
So what did SAUL / PAUL call jesus in Acts 9:5 , LORD and that word means , SIR or MASTER ,

Yes, he did call Jesus "Lord".
But who knows what he was calling him, twenty years later.
Hopefully, he never faltered or fell away until his end.

And in 1 Tim 1:15 Saul / Paul , to saved SINNERS of whom I AM FIRST // PROPOS .

He was the worst, indeed, as he at one time persecuted the church.
But he didn't keep persecuting us after his conversion...that we know of.

Then in 1 Tim 1:16 Paul is the PATTERN of the ONES coming to to believe on HIM , UNTO everlasting LIFE .

Yes, a pattern of faithfulness and righteous endurance.

You did not KNOW that you are a DISPENSATIONALST , and did NOT KNOW IT !!

I am not a "dispensationalist", by any definition I am aware of.

And get on BLUE LETTER BIBLE and IMITATE , Paul !
dan p

Colors don't foster obedience.

 

[Dan Perez]

I didn't say he was saved.
I said he was converted.
He still had plenty of life to go before his death, and still more time until the day of judgement.
His salvation will only be determined then.

Yes, he did call Jesus "Lord".
But who knows what he was calling him, twenty years later.
Hopefully, he never faltered or fell away until his end.

He was the worst, indeed, as he at one time persecuted the church.
But he didn't keep persecuting us after his conversion...that we know of.

Yes, a pattern of faithfulness and righteous endurance.

I am not a "dispensationalist", by any definition I am aware of.

Colors don't foster obedience.

And where do see in 1 Tim 1:15 that he was ( the worst ) in the Greek text ??

and I am going to check it right now !

And you believe , His salvation will only be determined THEN , when does that HAPPENED , with a VERSE ??

I do know that Peter was CONVERTED

And I just checked the GREEK TEXT , it reads , I // EIM , is in the GREEK TEXT is in the PRESENT TENSE

and in the INDICATIVE MOOD and means , that you better BELIEVE IT , in the SINGULAR

FIRST // PROPOS , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the SIGNULAR .

And I am rght ON , G 4413 and color me RED , WHITE and BLUE

So how was PAUL , then saved , in Rom 10 : 9 and 10 ?

Like to know your HOUGHTS ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And where do see in 1 Tim 1:15 that he was ( the worst ) in the Greek text ??
and I am going to check it right now !

As Paul is now long gone, the time he was talking about is far in the past.
He was, at that time, the worst sinner Jesus came to save.

And you believe , His salvation will only be determined THEN , when does that HAPPENED , with a VERSE ??

Jesus said..."Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." (John 5:28-29)

I do know that Peter was CONVERTED

Great.
I pray he remained converted until his death.

And I just checked the GREEK TEXT , it reads , I // EIM , is in the GREEK TEXT is in the PRESENT TENSE
and in the INDICATIVE MOOD and means , that you better BELIEVE IT , in the SINGULAR
FIRST // PROPOS , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the SIGNULAR .

I think your time spent on the Greek is a waste.

And I am rght ON , G 4413 and color me RED , WHITE and BLUE
So how was PAUL , then saved , in Rom 10 : 9 and 10 ?

Paul attested to his belief, by calling in the name of the Lord, at his baptism in the name of the Lord for the remission of his past sins. (Acts 22:16)
If his repentance from sin remained true for the rest of his life, he will be granted eternal life.

Like to know your HOUGHTS ??

?

 

[Dan Perez]

I didn't say he was saved.
I said he was converted.
He still had plenty of life to go before his death, and still more time until the day of judgement.
His salvation will only be determined then.

Yes, he did call Jesus "Lord".
But who knows what he was calling him, twenty years later.
Hopefully, he never faltered or fell away until his end.

He was the worst, indeed, as he at one time persecuted the church.
But he didn't keep persecuting us after his conversion...that we know of.

Yes, a pattern of faithfulness and righteous endurance.

I am not a "dispensationalist", by any definition I am aware of.

Colors don't foster obedience.

AND above you wrote , YES a pattern of faithulness and righteous edurance is not what I wrote !!

AND where does he was CONVERTED ??

And where does it say in 1 Tim 1:16 that Paul was the WORST ??

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

AND above you wrote , YES a pattern of faithfulness and righteous endurance is not what I wrote !!

Though you didn't use those words, it seems we are in agreement.

AND where does he was CONVERTED ??

I don't understand your question ??

And where does it say in 1 Tim 1:16 that Paul was the WORST ??

It is written..."This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief."

 

[Dan Perez]

Though you didn't use those words, it seems we are in agreement.

I don't understand your question ??

It is written..."This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief."

And I new that , BUT the Greek word PROTOS , meaning FRST and means BEFORE ---TIME OR PLACE or FIRST OF ALL

and checked to see what VINES GREEK DICITIONARY says and I AM RIGHT ON !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And I new that , BUT the Greek word PROTOS , meaning FRST and means BEFORE ---TIME OR PLACE or FIRST OF ALL

and checked to see what VINES GREEK DICITIONARY says and I AM RIGHT ON !!

dan p

"Chief" and "worst" are synonymous in the context of the egregiousness of Paul's preconversion standing with God.
He was at one time the worst of those Jesus came to save.

 

[Dan Perez]

"Chief" and "worst" are synonymous in the context of the egregiousness of Paul's preconversion standing with God.
He was at one time the worst of those Jesus came to save.

You write any thing you want AND Greek is PROTOS for the word FIRST , and anyone can check

VINES GREEK DICTIONARY or SRONGS CONCORNCE and see for them self !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

You write any thing you want AND Greek is PROTOS for the word FIRST , and anyone can check

VINES GREEK DICTIONARY or SRONGS CONCORNCE and see for them self !!

dan p

Are you really saying that Paul was "saved" before the other apostles and disciples?
Word meanings are often based on their context.
As Paul was not the "first saved", the word "chief" (in the KJV of the bible) must mean something besides "first".