Wife of US Coast Guard member arrested on base over expired visa after security check for military housing

[Hans Blaster]

How so?

Because US citizens can sponsor their parents for citizenship.

 

[RileyG]

Because US citizens can sponsor their parents for citizenship.

Ah, I wasn’t aware of that at all. Is that for every immigrant or no?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Ah, I wasn’t aware of that at all. Is that for every immigrant or no?

For every citizen.

 

[wing2000]

Ope! My mistake! Apparently, she didn’t become a US citizen for 10 years….

She entered the US with just a tourist visa and no authorization to work. She reportedly did modeling work in New York.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Melania Trump modeled in U.S. prior to getting work visa

Melania Trump was paid for 10 modeling jobs in the United States worth $20,056 that occurred in the seven weeks before she had legal permission to work in the country.

www.pbs.org

 

[wing2000]

 

[Aryeh Jay]

How so?

Well, I wasn't asleep during the first Trump Administration and I payed attention to what was happening in the country, keeping informed on current events is important to some people. Anyhow, during the first Trump Administration they created a family immigration program and her family was given a fastrack citizenship. I believe it still may be on the internet.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I’m no expert, but what happens when an American marries someone from a different country? Do they get a visa?

They can get a visa but have to apply. I don't know and am not an expert in immigration since I stopped enforcing it in 2013 but I think the non citizen spouse has to remain in their home country until the visa is approved and issued.

 

[wing2000]

They can get a visa but have to apply. I don't know and am not an expert in immigration since I stopped enforcing it in 2013 but I think the non citizen spouse has to remain in their home country until the visa is approved and issued.

Yes, it's known as the fiance visa. Melania, however, was here initially on a Trourist visa.

Melania's immigration record from 1996-2001 is a bit foggy. She came to the US on a Toursit Visa in 1996 and she eceived a green card in March 2001 and became a U.S. citizen in 2006. At some point, she was granted authorization to work and then must have applied for permanant residence (normally, one has to return to the home country to apply). Technically, she should have been denied the work permit as she had alledgedly already violated the terms of her Toursit visa.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Yes, it's known as the fiance visa. Melania, however, was here initially on a Trourist visa.

Melania's immigration record from 1996-2001 is a bit foggy. She came to the US on a Toursit Visa in 1996 and she eceived a green card in March 2001 and became a U.S. citizen in 2006. At some point, she was granted authorization to work and then must have applied for permanant residence (normally, one has to return to the home country to apply). Technically, she should have been denied the work permit as she had alledgedly already violated the terms of her Toursit visa.

That may be the way for common folk, the rich have a better way.

 

[rjs330]

I’m no expert, but what happens when an American marries someone from a different country? Do they get a visa?

I’m no expert, but what happens when an American marries someone from a different country? Do they get a visa?

My dad married a woman from Canada. He was allowed to to stay in Canada for a period of time while they got the paperwork done. He had to leave Canada though and come back to the states with his wife and she was allowed to come here for a while as they continued the process. It took some time but they finally got it done and she got her Visa to stay. Dad was retired so didn't have to worry about having to be split up with her because he had to work.

This guardsman and his wife broke the law. They should have split up and done things legally. You don't get to stay in America just because you get married to an American. My dad didn't get to stay in Canada just because he married a Canadian. This idea that you should be able to break the law and get away with it is ridiculous. The left want people to be able to break the law with no consequences. I KNOW its a sad story. But its a sad story because the people involved deliberately broke the law and are suffering the consequences of THEIR OWN CHOICES.

We don't here the left whining and crying when a man goes to prison for a crime and gets separated from his wife for 15 years. We don't hear about the unfairness of that. Or a parent gets separated from their child for 10 years because of a crime they committed.

This is utter lunacy and quite frankly anarchy to believe that people shoild he able to violate the law with impunity.

 

[wing2000]

This is utter lunacy and quite frankly anarchy to believe that people shoild he able to violate the law with impunity.

Deport Melania! After all, she violated the terms of her tourist visa by modeling.....

 

[rjs330]

Thanks for your concern. It reflects the political climate that we have today when one has to contemplate that free speech and other idea may not be welcome in America. I likely am not mainstream, but I would be a poor Christian if I just believed something and said nothing.

Richard I appreciate your compassion. We know we gave a compassionate savior. Christ died for sinners because God loves everyone regardless of what they have done and offers salvation for all who repent and believe. For those who don't believe there is only judgement.

If that couple would have asked Jesus what to do he would have told them to obey the law. God is not lawless. And committing sin has consequences on earth. Deliberately breaking the law is a sin and the consequences are real. The Bible is replete with stories of people suffering for their choices. The whole of scripture is a lesson on choice and the results of making the wrong one. It is a choice to believe. And there is a consequence that will be paid for choosing not to believe.

God is compassionate but he us not lawless. He is merciful to all of us who don't deserve mercy. But only to those who believe. Even Jesus told people to go and sin no more.

The separation of this couple would only have been temporary while working on their Visa. But they made a choice to do wrong. Just like a person makes a choice to drink and drive or steal or commit any other crime and gets separated from their loved one because they have to serve jail time. We aren't asking tge government to let them all out because they are married or have children. That creates lawlessness and as a Christian we know God is not lawless in his compassion and love for us.

 

[wing2000]

If that couple would have asked Jesus what to do he would have told them to obey the law. God is not lawless. And committing sin has consequences on earth. Deliberately breaking the law is a sin and the consequences are real. The Bible is replete with stories of people suffering for their choices. The whole of scripture is a lesson on choice and the results of making the wrong one. It is a choice to believe. And there is a consequence that will be paid for choosing not to believe.

Is that what Jesus said to the Pharisees when they quoted the "law" to him?

 

[rjs330]

Because US citizens can sponsor their parents for citizenship.

Yes but they have to complete the proper paperwork. They are not allowed to stay indefinitely while the paperwork is being done. I know this because my family went through it. This couple should have done this the right way and ard now dealing with with the consequences of their choice to break the law.

 

[NxNW]

Yup. Don’t like it? Too bad.

Except when Trump is convicted of his many crimes, and suddenly the rules don't count anymore. Ditto for Melania and the J6ers.

Republicans seem to love lawbreakers.

 

[rjs330]

Is that what Jesus said to the Pharisees when they quoted the "law" to him?

Jesus said not one part of the law will pass away. Jesus talked a lot about their consequences of sin which is breaking the law.

And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

The Son of Man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out of his Kingdom all the things that cause people to sin and all the people who are far from Torah; and they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where people will wail and grind their teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let him hear! “Once more, the Kingdom of Heaven is like a net thrown into the lake, that caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen brought the net up onto the shore, sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad fish away. So it will be at the close of the age — the angels will go forth and separate the evil people from among the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace, where they will wail and grind their teeth.

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 13:41, Matthew 13:42, Matthew 13:43, Matthew 13:47, Matthew 13:48, Matthew 13:49, Matthew 13:50 - Complete Jewish Bible

The Son of Man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out of his Kingdom all the things that cause people to sin and all the people who are far from Torah;

www.biblegateway.com

Jesus had a lot to tell the Pharisees. He told the people that they had to do what the Pharisees told them to do. But they weren't to do what the Pharisees did because the Pharisees were wicked hypocrites who deliberately disobeyed the law.

Then Yeshua addressed the crowds and his talmidim: “The Torah-teachers and the P’rushim,” he said, “sit in the seat of Moshe. So whatever they tell you, take care to do it. But don’t do what they do, because they talk but don’t act! “Woe to you hypocritical Torah-teachers and P’rushim! You clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence. Blind Parush! First clean the inside of the cup, so that the outside may be clean too. “Woe to you hypocritical Torah-teachers and P’rushim! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look fine on the outside but inside are full of dead people’s bones and all kinds of rottenness. Likewise, you appear to people from the outside to be good and honest, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and far from Torah. “You snakes! Sons of snakes! How can you escape being condemned to Gei-Hinnom? Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and Torah-teachers — some of them you will kill, indeed, you will have them executed on stakes as criminals; some you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so, on you will fall the guilt for all the innocent blood that has ever been shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Hevel to the blood of Z’kharyah Ben-Berekhyah, whom you murdered between the Temple and the altar. Yes! I tell you that all this will fall on this generation! “Yerushalayim! Yerushalayim! You kill the prophets! You stone those who are sent to you! How often I wanted to gather your children, just as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you refused!

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 23:1, Matthew 23:2, Matthew 23:3, Matthew 23:25, Matthew 23:26, Matthew 23:27, Matthew 23:28, Matthew 23:33, Matthew 23:34, Matthew 23:35, Matthew 23:36, Matthew 23:37 - Complete Jewish Bible

Then Yeshua addressed the crowds and his talmidim:

www.biblegateway.com

 

[DaisyDay]

I’m no expert, but what happens when an American marries someone from a different country? Do they get a visa?

Used to be that most spouses got a green card right away upon marriage to a citizen if they applies and got approved; citizenship took a few years. That all changed, though. Fortunately for my husband and me, we got married before the law changed to make things so difficult.

Personal: He had overstayed a student visa. We were living together anyway (he had a nice apartment in Queens while I had a tenement in Hell's Kitchen in the 80s). We've been together about 40 years now.

 

[BCP1928]

Yes but they have to complete the proper paperwork. They are not allowed to stay indefinitely while the paperwork is being done. I know this because my family went through it. This couple should have done this the right way and ard now dealing with with the consequences of their choice to break the law.

They probably just ignored it or didn't know. I doubt they set about deliberately to break the law. Overstaying a visa is not a criminal offense and she entered the country legally. They no doubt thought that it could be fixed up with the new paperwork.

 

[wing2000]

Used to be that most spouses got a green card right away upon marriage to a citizen if they applies and got approved; citizenship took a few years. That all changed, though. Fortunately for my husband and me, we got married before the law changed to make things so difficult.

...yes, that was the case with my Canadian mother....(married my American Father in '52). She did not have to return to Canada to obtain her permenant residence status.

 

[wing2000]

So she was in the USA now illegal as her visa expired years earlier. They fell in love and wanted to get married. Now, most here think that she could just apply and get a visa right?
She can, but she first has to leave the country and the coast guard man would have to file the visa paperwork while she remains in her country. I believe too that there is a two year wait for those to apply for a visa if they have been found to be here illegally. So now the choices would be for him to leave the USA and live with her in the foreign nation while they file await for a visa. However, if he does that then he may not have the income to bring her over to the USA anymore. So they did what most married couples would do. They choose each other and tried to hide the illegal because that was the only way they could be together unless the serviceman moved to another nation with her. I should add that the wait times for some countries for a wife to get a visa is generally over a year and may be two years. So with the illegal penalty of two years, plus the up to two year process they could be waiting up to four years, assuming they were qualified. Perhaps they want to start a family, well immigration is no help to them if living in the USA. So while serving his country, he finds that his country requires breaking up his family.

Our laws need to change. Requiring people to go back to their home country for years is simply unrealistic. Alas, we have a broken immigration system which leads people to find their own solutions. And our political leaders have utterly failed to address it.