Tim Walz embellished his military service record

[iluvatar5150]

I don't know what that means.

I was trying to be funny.

Anyways, the mustache worn by the character Rooster in the movie Top Gun: Maverick is... pretty bad:

I was wondering whether it's all military regs that make creepy pedophile mustaches okay, or if it's just a Navy thing.

 

[BCP1928]

Actually? The very worst thing about Tim Walz are all of his progressive far left policies. The Harris/Walz ticket is the most progressively far left nomination ticket that the Democratic Party has ever had in my opinion.

But you're not going to be able to persuade many Democrats or ever swing voters to vote against him for that reason, are you.

 

[RDKirk]

I was trying to be funny.

Anyways, the mustache worn by the character Rooster in the movie Top Gun: Maverick is... pretty bad:
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I was wondering whether it's all military regs that make creepy pedophile mustaches okay, or if it's just a Navy thing.

There was one man in the Air Force, one man, Colonel Robin Olds, who got away with this:

 

[Bradskii]

Very much like Eric Idle's mo' in the Python RAF banter sketch.

 

[civilwarbuff]

 

[probinson]

Really? That's the deciding factor in whether to vote for Harris this election?

Really? You're going to suggest I said something I never did? Seems like a weird way to attempt to distract from the topic.

 

[KCfromNC]

Really? You're going to suggest I said something I never did? Seems like a weird way to attempt to distract from the topic.

Glad I wasn't expecting an answer as to why there are pages and pages hashing it out, otherwise I'd be disappointed.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Really? That's the deciding factor in whether to vote for Harris this election?

Seems like a kinda weird way to pick a candidate.

There are a few lines that cannot be crossed for a politician in an election: #1 on the list is 'Don't lie about your military record, ever."

 

[RDKirk]

There are a few lines that cannot be crossed for a politician in an election: #1 on the list is 'Don't lie about your military record, ever."

It appears that people will find some way to lie about your military record no matter what. Which national politician hasn't had his military record politically twisted lately? It used to be that just having a military record and an honorable discharge was a political positive. These days, it just opens up new avenues of attack, no matter what. Somehow, nobody is Captain America enough.

 

[civilwarbuff]

It appears that people will find some way to lie about your military record no matter what. Which national politician hasn't had his military record politically twisted lately? It used to be that just having a military record and an honorable discharge was a political positive. These days, it just opens up new avenues of attack, no matter what. Somehow, nobody is Captain America enough.

But I am not talking about being twisted. I am talking about out and out lying. No one here is expecting a Captain America.....but a Private Ryan would be refreshing........
I spent 6 years in the Army and not once since have I exaggerated, misled, or lied about what I did, where I was or what my rank was upon discharge. I have always believed that would bring dishonor upon ME. I most certainly expect senior NCO's to do the same at the very least. Gov. Walz has done more than one of those and he should remove himself not only from running for VP but resign as Gov. of Mn. for those very reasons.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I found this conversation from a few of you in the military but have different thoughts on it quite interesting. I guess it could be said there will be a certain amount of traction Trump's campaign will get from this.....how much remains to be seen .

One thing I wonder about though. If it were Trump this was about would the Pro Walz group here still be saying the same thing? You know the media would be roasting him alive over it....so what about you? Would you stand in defense of Trump like you have Walz?

And don't say Trump would never serve in the military to dismiss the question.....hypothetically if he did.

My father loathes Trump, but if Trump was being criticized the way Walz is over his military service, he would speak up. In fact, he has defended Trump for the deferments and exemptions he got from service for Vietnam. He said if he did have issues with his feet, the last place he needed to be was Vietnam, a war that was especially hard on US soldiers below the knees. If he didn’t and he lied to get out, he’s a trash human who’d make a dangerous soldier, so it’s best he stays home with his conscience and go somewhere where his behavior could get people killed.

And, to be fair, I rag on Trump a lot, but not for his conduct during Vietnam. And I think that even those who I’ve gone back and forth with can verify that of all the things I’ve said about him, I haven’t remarked on that.

 

[civilwarbuff]

It appears that people will find some way to lie about your military record no matter what.

BTW, they need to be concerned about being truthful of THEIR OWN military record and I will take care of my own.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

That is part of the problem here. Any thinking person knows the implication was that he was a combat veteran to help his political resume. He claimed he retired as a Command Sergeant Major, he did not, he served as one and because he did not complete his sign up commitment he did NOT retire as one. He abandoned the men under his command when he learned he was to be deployed. Those are facts. He served and that is honorable but lying about that service is dishonorable and he will have to answer for it in this campaign. All of the spin to cover his embellishments only show a lack of credibility,

You need to read the posts above.

 

[RDKirk]

That is part of the problem here. Any thinking person knows the implication was that he was a combat veteran to help his political resume.

He didn't say he was a "combat veteran," he said he served during and supported a war, which is true. I did the same thing through a couple of wars and a number of skirmishes. I even carried a rifle a few times.

He claimed he retired as a Command Sergeant Major, he did not, he served as one and because he did not complete his sign up commitment he did NOT retire as one.

He was wearing CSM stripes at his retirement ceremony. He was actually reverted to his permanent rank after his retirement. I have a quibble about how he's characterized that sequence, but it's not worth all these histrionics. It's really not.

He abandoned the men under his command when he learned he was to be deployed. Those are facts.

That's not a fact, that's horse manure. Sure, a Guard combat unit can expect to deploy eventually if there's a war going on somewhere long enough, but when? In the meantime, people live their lives. He was middle aged with a wife and kids who certainly didn't want him to deploy again. He put in his retirement papers months before his unit got deployment orders, and it was months after that before they actually departed. There's nothing at all wrong about that, not even a hint of wrong. It didn't raise any eyebrows. People do that all the time. He didn't "abandon" anyone...his replacement was already in place in the unit and always had been there. They didn't even have to train a "new guy." He had been replaced before he left. His commander shook his hand, everyone gave him a round of applause and someone sang the National Anthem.

 

[Vambram]

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[Postvieww]

He didn't say he was a "combat veteran," he said he served during and supported a war, which is true. I did the same thing through a couple of wars and a number of skirmishes. I even carried a rifle a few times.

He was wearing CSM stripes at his retirement ceremony. He was actually reverted to his permanent rank after his retirement. I have a quibble about how he's characterized that sequence, but it's not worth all these histrionics. It's really not.

That's not a fact, that's horse manure. Sure, a Guard combat unit can expect to deploy eventually if there's a war going on somewhere long enough, but when? In the meantime, people live their lives. He was middle aged with a wife and kids who certainly didn't want him to deploy again. He put in his retirement papers months before his unit got deployment orders, and it was months after that before they actually departed. There's nothing at all wrong about that, not even a hint of wrong. It didn't raise any eyebrows. People do that all the time. He didn't "abandon" anyone...his replacement was already in place in the unit and always had been there. They didn't even have to train a "new guy." He had been replaced before he left. His commander shook his hand, everyone gave him a round of applause and someone sang the National Anthem.

Would it be appropriate if I said this is all horse manure?

 

[Postvieww]

You need to read the posts above.

Wouldn’t change a thing. Walz’s record is out there for all to see. The liberal spin campaign is just propaganda.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Wouldn’t change a thing. Walz’s record is out there for all to see. The liberal spin campaign is just propaganda.

It has been explained to you. If your goal is to trash a veteran simply because he’s a Democrat, super, but I hope you don’t pretend to claim to be supportive of the military or soldiers as clearly you are not.

 

[Postvieww]

It has been explained to you. If your goal is to trash a veteran simply because he’s a Democrat, super, but I hope you don’t pretend to claim to be supportive of the military or soldiers as clearly you are not.

Nonsense nobody’s goal is to trash a veteran. That veteran has an obligation to be truthful about his service. Which he himself taints by lying about it for political gain. Many who actually served with him do not buy that explanation you refer to.

 

[iluvatar5150]

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Please click on this link from a post on X.com which shares a Facebook post from Tim Walz Battalion commander LT Colonel John Kolb

Kolb wasn't his commander. Kolb didn't take over until after Walz had left.

Minnesota National Guard Staff Lineages – Minnesota National Guard

• LTC John Kolb, Aug. 1, 2005 - Dec. 2, 2007