Amherst man (VP of Buffalo Bikers Against Child Abuse) arrested for child sex crimes

[essentialsaltes]

John C. Todaro, 49, of Amherst was arrested for promoting a sexual performance by a child (D felony) and possessing a sexual performance by a child (E felony), according to New York State Police.

Todaro, the vice president and active member of Bikers Against Child Abuse Buffalo Chapter, had opportunities to be around children and child victims, police said.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

That's a shame. Sadly, some people, that protest or claim to be against something. Do what they claim to be against.

 

[durangodawood]

That's a shame. Sadly, some people, that protest or claim to be against something. Do what they claim to be against.

I wonder.... are moralizing loudmouths more likely to actually be doing the offense, or do we just hear about them more?

 

[essentialsaltes]

I wonder.... are moralizing loudmouths more likely to actually be doing the offense, or do we just hear about them more?

I confess you will certainly hear more about them from me.

And again, the conclusion one should draw is not that the Scouting or BACA or Denomination X or the House GOP is automatically dangerous, but clearly parents should not consider any particular representative of them to be 100% safe.

 

[Sif]

Working on Anti-Human Trafficking, which includes child abuse and exploitation, I see the perpetrators as being from all walks of life. No one group has the corner on such ugliness. I work sometimes with National Center For Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC), International Center For Missing and Exploited Children (ICMEC), Child Rescue Coalition (CRC), and The Knoble. All will tell you do not assume a trafficker/perpetrator is or is not anyone. As I said I've seen abusers, traffickers, perpetrators from all walks of life.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

John C. Todaro, 49, of Amherst was arrested for promoting a sexual performance by a child (D felony) and possessing a sexual performance by a child (E felony), according to New York State Police.

Todaro, the vice president and active member of Bikers Against Child Abuse Buffalo Chapter, had opportunities to be around children and child victims, police said.

I bet if the death penalty was enacted for these sorts of crimes, we'd see a big downward spiral in their commissions.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I bet if the death penalty was enacted for these sorts of crimes, we'd see a big downward spiral in their commissions.

Possibly, but it would likely come with a big upward spiral in perps murdering their victims.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Possibly, but it would likely come with a big upward spiral in perps murdering their victims.

.... that's a fair point, but I was sort of under the impression that murders we're attending a good number of these types of incidences.

Either way, I'm for the death penalty in such cases, whether they're Christian pastors or random, Nihilistic 'Johns' on the Left.

 

[durangodawood]

I bet if the death penalty was enacted for these sorts of crimes, we'd see a big downward spiral in their commissions.

Probably even more so if the penalty was severe torture unto death.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I wonder.... are moralizing loudmouths more likely to actually be doing the offense, or do we just hear about them more?

It'd be great if that was the case, wouldn't it? Then we could just constantly cite the old joke, "He who smelt it, dealt it," and proceed to remain clear in our demotion and deplatforming of those who oppose us politically while we see them morally grandstanding.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Probably even more so if the penalty was severe torture unto death.

Isn't that what the system already kind of does, though, just indirectly?

 

[durangodawood]

Isn't that what the system already kind of does, though, just indirectly?

Not if youre really going for torture.

 

[Desk trauma]

Turns out the man doth protest too much.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Not if youre really going for torture.

Why would you "really" go in for torture? For my part, I go in for solutions rather than remediations...

 

[durangodawood]

Why would you "really" go in for torture? For my part, I go in for solutions rather than remediations...

You were valuing the death penalty as a deterrent. Same thing here.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

You were valuing the death penalty as a deterrent. Same thing here.

Yes. But the death penalty has traditionally been seen as a possibly justified form of punishment among governments; torture on the other hand is what barbarians, sociopaths and revolutionaries resort to. I'm not advocating for the latter; I'm actually advocating for the eradication of child-abuse of any sort within the confines of 'justice' rather than via revenge.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Is it torture when the final result is death? Isn't it just a prolonged execution?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Is it torture when the final result is death? Isn't it just a prolonged execution?

No. They are analytically different. And, what's more, apart from the contexts of government, I don't think that a person's rights are retained when they take away the rights of another human being.

So, if one person murders another, that murderer (or pedophile in the case of this thread), has lost their "rights."

 

[durangodawood]

Yes. But the death penalty has traditionally been seen as a possibly justified form of punishment among governments; torture on the other hand is what barbarians, sociopaths and revolutionaries resort to. I'm not advocating for the latter; I'm actually advocating for the eradication of child-abuse of any sort within the confines of 'justice' rather than via revenge.

"Traditionally" doesnt justify either the death penalty or torture.

Barbarians, sociopaths, and revolutionaries resort to the death penalty too. Revolutionaries especially.

Re torture I'm not advocating it for revenge at all. Its just that when you mentioned the value of deterrence, I thought torture would be great for that - even better than the death penalty alone.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

"Traditionally" doesnt justify either the death penalty or torture.

Barbarians, sociopaths, and revolutionaries resort to the death penalty too. Revolutionaries especially.

Re torture I'm not advocating it for revenge at all. Its just that when you mentioned the value of deterrence, I thought torture would be great for that - even better than the death penalty alone.

But I'm advocating for the death penalty as the penalty "due" to actions [X] against children, not merely as a deterrent to those actions.

In other words, "Don't touch the children--if you do, you die. Period." ............. it's simple.