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West TX Children Treated for Vitamin A Toxicity Along Side Measles

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Medical disinformation connected to the West Texas measles outbreak has created a new problem. Children are being treated for toxic levels of vitamin A.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. directed the CDC to update its measles guidance to promote the use of vitamin A.

The World Health Organization has administered vitamin A in Africa to reduce mortality during measles outbreaks. This is a strategy in a part of the world with widespread malnourishment, and vitamin A deficiency compromises the immune system. However, malnourishment is not a problem in West Texas or in other locations where the measles outbreak has spread in the U.S.​
 

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Medical disinformation connected to the West Texas measles outbreak has created a new problem. Children are being treated for toxic levels of vitamin A.​
Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. directed the CDC to update its measles guidance to promote the use of vitamin A.​
The World Health Organization has administered vitamin A in Africa to reduce mortality during measles outbreaks. This is a strategy in a part of the world with widespread malnourishment, and vitamin A deficiency compromises the immune system. However, malnourishment is not a problem in West Texas or in other locations where the measles outbreak has spread in the U.S.​
What infuriates me is that information about vitamins and the needs of human biology is taught in school (at least it is in the UK).

And the vitamin requirement of adults and kids are easily available online.

Yet still people fall for garbage like what this guy promotes. If it wasn’t for kids and vulnerable folks I’d quote that guy from Airplane: “they knew the risks when they bought their ticket. I say let ‘em die”.
 
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The most important part of this Vitamin A story:

"RFK Jr. recommended vitamin A"

After the child’s death in late February, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that vitamin A and cod liver oil could be used to prevent or treat measles, a claim that has been disputed by doctors, experts and health officials.
The fact we have a environmental lawyer giving medical advice is a travesty.
 
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The most important part of this Vitamin A story:

"RFK Jr. recommended vitamin A"

After the child’s death in late February, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that vitamin A and cod liver oil could be used to prevent or treat measles, a claim that has been disputed by doctors, experts and health officials.
The fact we have a environmental lawyer giving medical advice is a travesty.
Who would question the advice given by someone who had a part of his brain consumed by worms? And he's one of the smart ones.
 
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What infuriates me is that information about vitamins and the needs of human biology is taught in school (at least it is in the UK).

And the vitamin requirement of adults and kids are easily available online.

Yet still people fall for garbage like what this guy promotes. If it wasn’t for kids and vulnerable folks I’d quote that guy from Airplane: “they knew the risks when they bought their ticket. I say let ‘em die”.
yeah, but how many realize vitamins are toxic? so many people don' realize this, and will happily take a ton thinking it help.
 
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Well it took me this long to turn completely on rfk.

I was feeling hopeful for his getting rid of bad stuff in your food chain. Maybe something good could come of it....

Of course that would mean increased regulation which this administration is not into either. And now there's reports they are clawing back the forever chemical ban.

I thought I could look over all his other stupidity I'd just that could happen.

Nope.


People are going to die SOLELY because this guy is in charge. His advice is going to kill people.
 
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The most important part of this Vitamin A story:

"RFK Jr. recommended vitamin A"

After the child’s death in late February, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that vitamin A and cod liver oil could be used to prevent or treat measles, a claim that has been disputed by doctors, experts and health officials.
The fact we have a environmental lawyer giving medical advice is a travesty.

As opposed to what, though?

While obviously vaccination is the best "upstream solution" to measles.

It's not as if RFK is the first person to give non-descript, incomplete information on that.

For instance, if you take these 3 pieces of information, separately, into consideration

Vitamin A deficiency is associated with visual impairment and increased mortality in children, particularly from measles

Vitamin A reduced the risk of death from measles by 87% for children younger than two years old. In addition, for all children, it reduced the length of time the child suffers from diarrhea by 2 days and shortens the duration of fever by 1 day.

Approximately 43.0% of Americans are vitamin A deficient


Given that all 3 sources cited here are reputable...

What would be a reasonable person's takeaway from those pieces of information?

(note, publications were from 2015-2017, before it was the scientific community's main goal was apparently dedicated to "prove RFK wrong")


My takeaway from that would be, if a person is unvaccinated, and contracts measles, given that vitamin A deficiency is present for nearly half of Americans, and Vitamin A deficiency is clearly a factor in one's odds of survival, Vitamin A certainly can't hurt.
 
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Right, but as I noted, if that ship has already sailed, per the links I posted before (which were reputable), the "Take Vitamin A" advice isn't as crazy as people are making it out to be.
 
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Right, but as I noted, if that ship has already sailed, per the links I posted before (which were reputable), the "Take Vitamin A" advice isn't as crazy as people are making it out to be.
it is, when most kids don't have a vitamin deficiency, you would expect a health expert to know this, least he didn't say give kids 1000 mgs a day on vitamin C and super dose, now thats just idiocy.
 
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Right, but as I noted, if that ship has already sailed, per the links I posted before (which were reputable), the "Take Vitamin A" advice isn't as crazy as people are making it out to be.
Right. It concerns me that RFKjr is dispensing medical advice. How about he just say if you contract measles seek medical professionals. And if they recommend Vitiman A, let them advise. Kind of like Trump mentioning possible treatments for covid that led to actual deaths, leave it to the professionals else you end up with situations like this:

West Texas children treated for vitamin A toxicity after measles hospitalizations

Multiple children in West Texas have been treated for vitamin A toxicity stemming from at-home attempts to treat measles, hospital officials have confirmed. Covenant Children's Hospital declined Friday afternoon to say how many patients in Lubbock have been treated for vitamin A toxicity, but confirmed there have been "fewer than 10 cases." The children were initially hospitalized due to measles complications. They underwent routine lab testing, which showed abnormal liver function believed to be caused by vitamin A toxicity, according to Dr. Lara Johnson, a pediatric hospitalist and chief medical officer of the Covenant Health-Lubbock service area. “Some patients reported using vitamin A for both treatment and prevention of measles,” Johnson said in a statement on March 27.
 
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What infuriates me is that information about vitamins and the needs of human biology is taught in school (at least it is in the UK).

And the vitamin requirement of adults and kids are easily available online.

Yet still people fall for garbage like what this guy promotes. If it wasn’t for kids and vulnerable folks I’d quote that guy from Airplane: “they knew the risks when they bought their ticket. I say let ‘em die”.

It's really sad that children suffer the consequences of their parent's stupidity.
 
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My takeaway from that would be, if a person is unvaccinated, and contracts measles, given that vitamin A deficiency is present for nearly half of Americans, and Vitamin A deficiency is clearly a factor in one's odds of survival, Vitamin A certainly can't hurt.

What percentage of Texas' children have a Vitamin A deficieny?
 
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Well it took me this long to turn completely on rfk.

I was feeling hopeful for his getting rid of bad stuff in your food chain. Maybe something good could come of it....

Of course that would mean increased regulation which this administration is not into either. And now there's reports they are clawing back the forever chemical ban.

I thought I could look over all his other stupidity I'd just that could happen.

Nope.


People are going to die SOLELY because this guy is in charge. His advice is going to kill people.
I know. Big fan, me.
 
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Right, but as I noted, if that ship has already sailed, per the links I posted before (which were reputable), the "Take Vitamin A" advice isn't as crazy as people are making it out to be.
If that advice "were not crazy" would we, HONESTLY, be seeing an uptake in Vitamin A toxicity?

What if medical advice was NOT as simple as "shove X into your body"? I VERY MUCH DOUBT trained medical professionals are over perscribing vitamin A to people. I think it's more that people are "making these choices" to take Vitamin A but don't take the right amount and in their desperation to knock it off, do more damage than not?

Presenting the advice as simply as "Take Vitamin A", CLEARLY, for some Americans is too vague.

Remember! IT was litigation and the American population that led to these beautifes being necessary:
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And THIS particularly disturbing piece of medical guidance:
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Of course THESE people have the benefit of financial compensation.

These folks taking too much vitamin A suffer AND won't get the benefit of financial compensation....
 
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