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How Dangerous Was The Covid - 19 Vaccine

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Found the Vid that I was talking about , listen carefully to what Tucker says , this is why people get suspicious of their Governments. How could one not..? Vid only goes for a few mins.

No need to watch it, if it has Tucker in it, it's bound to be false.

Ivermectin does not help against covid-19.

What's actually been found to help against long covid are over the counter anti-allergica that block histamin.

 
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It's best to get vaccinated for both if you have certain health problems and or are in the 65+ range.
The second to last time I got the flu vaccine I had a bad reaction, a rash on my arm. Went to the doctor and got something against it and everything was fine. The last time I got the flu vaccine I didn't feel anything. Has been a few years since.

For the covid vaccines, I felt a little bit under the weather, but nothing that incapacitated me.
 
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And one of his complaints is why isn't the Government looking into this ?
I would say lawsuits because the government promoted it as safe. My wife took the vaccine, and I didn't.
 
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It's much more risky to get COVID than to get the vaccine. Plus, enough people get vaxxed, we get herd immunity and that reduces the risk of other people, both vaxxed and not, getting COVID. Vaccination is thus an act of Christian charity, making a (very small) sacrifice for the benefit of others.

Vaccines prevent disease. Disease is bad. Virtually all the jabber about vaccine risks is hysterical nonsense.

Would you not feed your children vegetables because you heard about someone choking to death on a carrot?

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Yes that is what most of us are thinking. Hope your wife is ok too.
She is I guess some people are more sensitive to the spike protein and the inflammation it causes.
 
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The second to last time I got the flu vaccine I had a bad reaction, a rash on my arm. Went to the doctor and got something against it and everything was fine. The last time I got the flu vaccine I didn't feel anything. Has been a few years since.

For the covid vaccines, I felt a little bit under the weather, but nothing that incapacitated me.
The reason I didn't take the flu vaccine and didn't take the Covid vaccine is that I always feel sick after the vaccine. My wife always gets the flu vaccine, and it doesn't affect her. Wierd.
 
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Covid was nothing more than a bad dose of the flu & it was exaggerated out of all proportion.
But man people died of COVID. I had the jabs, and when I did test positive for COVID, because I had the protection, it was nothing more than a bad cold.
 
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why were the jabs so dangerous & what was the ingredients in the vile to cause so many to become sick or even die ?


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We were just mean't to accept these shots without question.
I personally didn't take it for many reasons & I'm glad I never took it after hearing the many horror stories from people around the world.
I’ve been reliably informed by personages on this very site that I would be dead as of October 23 as a result of my having three jabs with different COVID vaccines.

The only side effects I have are aging about two years.

So I think we can assume causality (as is tradition in this sub-fora).
 
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Covid was nothing more than a bad dose of the flu & it was exaggerated out of all proportion.
My dad was alive. He got COVID. Then he died. Is my dad’s death and exaggeration?
 
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The reason I didn't take the flu vaccine and didn't take the Covid vaccine is that I always feel sick after the vaccine. My wife always gets the flu vaccine, and it doesn't affect her. Wierd.
I feel absolutely awful after getting my jabs. But it’s nothing to be afraid of.
 
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I do not know if it was caused by the vaccine or not but the second time I got my shot I woke up in the morning with very blurry vision. Couldn't read text at all and probably wasn't safe to drive. Luckily it went away after about 20 minutes.

Although that was the last shot for me.
 
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But man people died of COVID. I had the jabs, and when I did test positive for COVID, because I had the protection, it was nothing more than a bad cold.
Unvaccinated people have reported the same , nothing more that a bad cold.
Although your not alone in your thinking David , a lot of vaccinated people think as you do , they believe the vaccine helped in some way.

And if that is so , then how do we explain the unvaccinated reporting the same symptoms.
 
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No need to watch it, if it has Tucker in it, it's bound to be false.

Ivermectin does not help against covid-19.
Actually Tucker was talking about Hydroxychloroquine , but I guess it doesn't matter either way because he speaks falsities as you say.
 
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We were just mean't to accept these shots without question.
Well they did give us a little incentive to help in our decision making process , they put a gun to our head and said take this or loose your job.

Nothing draconian about that , after all , we had to save the inhabitants of planet earth from total obliteration.
 
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Well they did give us a little incentive to help in our decision making process , they put a gun to our head and said take this or loose your job.

I know, how Orwellian is this ? Plus the fact that you couldn't travel abroad.

We were lucky we didn't have jobs to loose & neither did we want to travel abroad.

What got me was the amount of churches that closed it's doors, so much for their faith in God.
 
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Unvaccinated people have reported the same , nothing more that a bad cold.
Although your not alone in your thinking David , a lot of vaccinated people think as you do , they believe the vaccine helped in some way.

And if that is so , then how do we explain the unvaccinated reporting the same symptoms.
I suppose what we could do with in this discussion is somebody with the figures to show us the percentage of unvaccinated people who got COVID and died as a result, compared with the percentage of vaccinated people or got COVID and died from it (not those who died from one of the various vaccines).
 
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The MRNA shots were dangerous for some. The initial studies did not parse out the comorbidities enough as to who exactly might develop issues. The list is long and growing of potential hazards from the vaccine. Most results are rare, some results likely could have been predicted better. Results too depend on age and gender, allergies and other criteria. Studies are hard in some countries like the USA because adverse events reporting is not ideal. Here is just a partial list from journals of potential correlations found with reactions to vaccines. As I had some of the links I just posted a sample of the possible links, mostly from medical journals published within the last year. There are quite a few more with additional things being investigated even now.

1.vestibular neuritis (Inner ear issues) Association of Vestibular Neuritis Following COVID-19 Vaccination - PMC

2. Symmetrical drug-related intertriginous and flexural exanthema-like reaction https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1567576924022598

3. systemic lupus erythematosus and alopecia areata, psoriasis, and rheumatoid arthritis

4. Alzheimer's A potential association between COVID-19 vaccination and development of Alzheimer's disease - PubMed

5. A study including 303 nonvaccinated and 700 vaccinated patients showed that vaccinated patients had overall higher myocardial 18F-deoxyglucose (FDG) uptake, an indicator of severe cardiac muscle metabolic insufficiency typically as a result of ischemia, regardless of sex or age. https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/prp2.1218 COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis (C-VAM): https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00388-2/fulltext

6. COVID-19 vaccination was associated with a reduced risk of hyperthyroidism and an increased risk of hypothyroidism Long-term Thyroid Outcomes After COVID-19 Vaccination: A Cohort Study of 2,333,496 Patients from the TriNetX Network - PubMed

7. COVID-19 vaccination has been linked to the reactivation of varicella-zoster virus. (Shingles and other types of herpes including ocular ones. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X24011332

8. Aplastic Anemia: Similarly, numerous case studies show that individuals were affected with AA after the completion of one or two doses of corona vaccination. Multidisciplinary approaches to study anaemia with special mention on aplastic anaemia (Review)

9. endothelial function: Effects of BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 vaccine on vascular function

10. new-onset psychosis: Frontiers | New-onset psychosis following COVID-19 vaccination: a systematic review

11. neurological disorder and inflammation of the spinal cord: Two very rare Covid vaccine side-effects detected in global study of 99 million
 
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I feel absolutely awful after getting my jabs. But it’s nothing to be afraid of.
I'm not, but this old dog is not in the habit of doing things that kick me. I'm a pansey when I'm sick.
 
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That's not a very precise answer.
As A biochemist who retired and was making vaccines and what we called experimental gene therapies ( mRNA vaccines) I can tell you these mRNA vaccines first of all do not work well. their mode of action is very different from normal vaccines;

why these mRNA vaccines are dangerous? I will just enumerate the a few points for the
covid 19 ""vaccine "" that is in reality an experimental gene therapy;

1- the mRNA encoding the spike protein, This protein if now known to be toxic for cells, the main point if that it encodes for prions among other things

2- the delivery method is as follows, the mRNA and all the contaminants from the vaccines production from cancereous cells are encapsulated in a special envelope ( LNP) these lipid nano particles were made to be charged slightly positively and bind weakly with any cells they touch, after being injected, the particles get to the blood where they reach ALL organs of the body, and penetrate cells mainly by the capillary of bodily organs, this was proven by pzfizer itself in bio distribution studies done in japan before the release of the vaccine. Later this was confirmed by immunohistochemistry as they found the spike protein in many organs ( heart, pancreas, lung, liver, brain, heart ect...)

3- when normal cells are infected with a protein ( virus spike protein made by the mRNA, that does not belong there, the immune system does see it eventially as the spike protein being made in all the cells of the boby start to accumnlate because of overproduction they then start to be excreted by the affected cells and are present in the surface of the cells and are seen as a danger to the immune system, this lead to auto immune diseases...


I can continue for several pages but i will finish here with an example, all the news about sudden death in young athletes ( very rarely happenned before the vaccine and were mostly due to heart defects) are because the heart made this spike protein and was seen by the immune system of youg adults predominantly because the young have a stronger immune system than older adults. biopsy samples of these hearts were proven to contain spike protein ( it does not belong there at all and shoukd not be there at all ) it means the immune sustem attacked the meart cells infectsd and killed these cells leafinf to fibrous tissue in the heart reducing severely it's efficiency unto death under high stress as the heart does not function properly.
 
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