(Short Clip) Elon Musk On Joe Rogan's Podcast, Its Gonna Get Me Killed!

[BPPLEE]

Again, you are selectively filtering. Lest readers be duped, below is a still from this "salute". Look at the man's face - is that a "my heart goes out to you" expression as you are suggesting? Or is it more of a "let's stick it to our enemies" expression?

We all know the answer - the human face tells a million tales.

Look, I cannot say for sure that this was a Nazi salute. But it is misleading to suggest that the other "salutes" you showed from Harris, Sanders, etc. are equally suggestive of a Nazi salute.

With Musk, we do not only have the nasty grimace (see below) that strongly suggests contempt, we have all sorts of other reasons - not least his endorsement of a far-right party in Germany and his related, at least somewhat suspicious statement that "we should get past Nazi guilt" (perhaps those were not his exact words but I suggest they are close enough).

But, to be fair, yes, this is not a Nazi salute "beyond a reasonable doubt". But, in a way, it does not matter - there are plenty of unambiguous reasons to be skeptical about Musk's character - for example, his moronic tweet that "Canada is not a real country", his outrageous labelling of war veteran Mark Kelly as a "traitor", and his infantile wielding of a chainsaw showing a complete lack of empathy for all the people he and his gang of young minions were about to put out of work.

View attachment 362308

You can read a man's mind from a photograph?
Well Harris looks pretty smug in her Nazi salute photo.
Tell us what she is thinking.

 

[Always in His Presence]

But I doubt you'll show the full clips of the instances of, for example

When I describe with specificity what the video showed, all of a sudden you change over to the still

Lest readers be duped, below is a still from this

 

[expos4ever]

I’m not clairvoyant are you?. I could only judge the man by his words.

He comes out on stage and says how great of victory it is touches his heart raises his hand and says my heart goes out to you.

You’re grasping at straws and in my personal opinion, your argument has lost all credibility

Clairvoyant? One of the most fundamental ways human beings disclose what is in the heart is through their facial expressions. We certainly do not judge people solely on the basis of "their words" - other cues tell us what is going on.

You have to know that Musk's expression is suggestive of contempt or, at best, gloating in victory. It is certainly not the expression of someone who, at the moment, is filled with kindly gratitude.

But let's talk about the bigger picture. Do you know what this paragon of virtue posted yesterday? Well, here it is:

Stalin, Mao, and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector employees did.

Your response?

 

[Landon Caeli]

I have no idea what you are saying here.

The argument is simply this. If it is flawed, as you are saying, you should surely be able to point out precisely where the flaw is. I will make it really easy for you. Simply point out the point (or points) at which the following argument is flawed:

1. Premise: only a bad person would promote or support the forced annexation of a free and sovereign nation against the will of its people
2. Fact: Donald Trump and some of his supporters do precisely this,
3. Conclusion: Donald Trump and those who support him in the push to forcibly annex Canada are fundamentally bad human beings.

There you go - have at it: point out where this argument fails.

Your use of the word "forced"... Who said they would "force" Canada to become a US state?

I'll need a direct quote.

My point stands, that "wanting" something, does not equate to "forcing" something... Not in any way, shape, or form. In fact, it's illogical to claim they mean the same.

.

 

[expos4ever]

Your use of the word "forced"... Who said they would "force" Canada to become a US state?

I'll need a direct quote.

Here you are - see about 1/4 to 1/3 the way through the clip. He clearly states he is considering economic force.

My point stands, that "wanting" something, does not equate to "forcing" something... In any way, shape or form.

As the clip proves, Trump has gone beyond "wanting" something and, from his own lips, declared he is thinking of using economic force.

He is a bad, bad man.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Here you are - see about 1/4 to 1/3 the way through the clip. He clearly states he is considering economic force.

As the clip proves, Trump has gone beyond "wanting" something and, from his own lips, declared he is thinking of using economic force.

He is a bad, bad man.

...So not military force then? But yet, you compared Trump to Hitler, where Hitler used actual military force.

Don't you think that's a little overdramatic?

 

[expos4ever]

...So not military force then? But yet, you compared Trump to Hitler, where Hitler used actual military force.

Don't you think that's a little overdramatic?

First, let's remember what has been established - the President of the United States has clearly stated that he wants to use a means of force / coercion to annex a free and sovereign nation agains the will of its people.

This is stunning. To any right-minded person, this is an outrageous imperialist threat. If there were appropriate "justice" in your country, the man would be removed from office forthwith.

On the comparison to Hitler and from Brittanica

Hitler’s first objective was the annexation of Austria. After the unsuccessful putsch of 1934, Hitler for a time had to go carefully, but then closer cooperation with Mussolini, who had hitherto been the most determined opponent of an Anschluss, opened up new possibilities. On July 11, 1936, a so-called gentlemen’s agreement was concluded between Germany and Austria, which was used by the German government as a means of exercising pressure on Kurt von Schuschnigg’s government in Vienna. Hitler sought to preserve the facade of legality while applying political pressure under the threat, but without the overt use, of force. On February 12, 1938, Schuschnigg, the Austrian chancellor, was bullied into accepting far-reaching demands during an interview with Hitler at Berchtesgaden.

Whether Hitler's "political pressure" was economic in nature, I do not know. But this text demonstrates that a comparison with Hitler is apt - I was very careful not to suggest that Trump would use military force. But, as this text above demonstrates, neither did Hitler at the beginning.

 

[BPPLEE]

First, let's remember what has been established - the President of the United States has clearly stated that he wants to use a means of force / coercion to annex a free and sovereign nation agains the will of its people.

This is stunning. To any right-minded person, this is an outrageous imperialist threat. If there were appropriate "justice" in your country, the man would be removed from office forthwith.

On the comparison to Hitler and from Brittanica

Hitler’s first objective was the annexation of Austria. After the unsuccessful putsch of 1934, Hitler for a time had to go carefully, but then closer cooperation with Mussolini, who had hitherto been the most determined opponent of an Anschluss, opened up new possibilities. On July 11, 1936, a so-called gentlemen’s agreement was concluded between Germany and Austria, which was used by the German government as a means of exercising pressure on Kurt von Schuschnigg’s government in Vienna. Hitler sought to preserve the facade of legality while applying political pressure under the threat, but without the overt use, of force. On February 12, 1938, Schuschnigg, the Austrian chancellor, was bullied into accepting far-reaching demands during an interview with Hitler at Berchtesgaden.

Whether Hitler's "political pressure" was economic in nature, I do not know. But this text demonstrates that a comparison with Hitler is apt - I was very careful not to suggest that Trump would use military force. But, as this text above demonstrates, neither did Hitler at the beginning.

A comparison to Hitler makes Hitler less of a monster and is a disservice to the memory of the millions he slaughtered.
You should think about who Hitler was and what he did before making comparisons.
This comparison has been made so much that it no longer has the effect you're going for anyway

 

[expos4ever]

A comparison to Hitler makes Hitler less of a monster and is a disservice to the memory of the millions he slaughtered.
You should think about who Hitler was and what he did before making comparisons.
This comparison has been made so much that it no longer has the effect you're going for anyway

The comparison to Hitler is actually not relevant.

The main point is that one has to be a very bad person to promote the forced annexation of a free and sovereign nation against the will of its people.

I can think of no way to refute this claim - it seems like a statement of the painfully obvious.

 

[Deborah1$]

That's what they kept saying last time.

The poster was right. It caught up with you though, didn't it.

 

[Deborah1$]

As president Trump has openly stated several times, dealing with the China Virus and constant attacks from the democrats hindered his administration from getting more done, plain and simple, and his administration still had outstanding performance

Perhaps had President Trump not thrown away pandemic procedures left by a previous admiistration, and perhaps had he admitted there was a pandemic instead of foolishly ignoring it and claiming it would probably affect only two or three people, and bleach consumption would cure it, the country could have been spared an epidemic that killed hundreds of thousands of people and it would have been one less thing he had to deal with. Oh, so the Democrats hindered him - LOLOL!

 

[Servus]

The poster was right. It caught up with you though, didn't it.

Nope. I'm still waiting.

 

[Deborah1$]

Nope. I'm still waiting.

Yeah, right. Even Trump has tired of him and his toxicity. That's why he made the statement that Elon would be gone soon ... because Trump didn't want to be associated with Elon's cratering unpopularity. And Republicans in Congress are celebrating that he is on his way out.

 

[NxNW]

I think it's more like Elon is finding money fraud within the US government, then he's following the money trail to expose who the recipients are

How many have been charged with fraud?

How many have been exposed for committing fraud (other then Trump)?

 

[NxNW]

Are those the same economists who predicted a weak economy with high inflation during Trump's first term as POTUS? If so, then I recommend that you don't listen to their fallible predictions.

We had a recession and then later, high inflation, as a direct result of Trump'sc failures.

 

[NxNW]

Approximately 2.2 million federal employees working in all 50 states and every country around the world.

DOGE employee number is 20.

You seem like an intelligent individual. Could you explain how 20 people were able to uncover so much abuse and fraud within the entire federal government in less than 45 days?

Who's been charged with fraud or abuse?

Please name them.

Remember, these 20 employees are human, not demigod.

Incompetent, but human.

 

[Servus]

Yeah, right. Even Trump has tired of him and his toxicity. That's why he made the statement that Elon would be gone soon ... because Trump didn't want to be associated with Elon's cratering unpopularity. And Republicans in Congress are celebrating that he is on his way out.

He was only going to run DOGE for 110 days give or take.

 

[Deborah1$]

He was only going to run DOGE for 110 days give or take.

Whatever - he is still a drag on Trump's admin and Trump and the Repub congressmen want him gone because he has always tried to outshine Trump.

 

[Servus]

Whatever - he is still a drag on Trump's admin and Trump and the Repub congressmen want him gone because he has always tried to outshine Trump.

According to who? CNN, Jimmy Kimmel, The View?

 

[Servus]

You can read a man's mind from a photograph?
Well Harris looks pretty smug in her Nazi salute photo.
Tell us what she is thinking.