Trump’s Defense Secretary Accidentally Texted War Plans to The Atlantic: ‘I Didn’t Think It Could Be Real,’ Editor Says

[wing2000]

I fired up Signal last night....alas, no invitations from Mr Waltz.

 

[wing2000]

Yhis was obviously an accident. One that should not have occurred. Lets face it, sometimes the accident is a very big one. This one if those times, and Walz is going to have to answer for it.

The Secretary of Defense needs to be held to account for the military operational details he shared in the Signal group. It inexescusable and risked American lives. Likewise, peole like Waltz, who certainly knows better based on his prior experience, should have shut it down and moved to secure communications channel. The fact that none of the Sr Cabinet members questioned the discussion taking place on Signal indicates this is likely a commone practice in this administration. One thing is certain: the US military will never trust Hegseth again.

 

[wing2000]

“President Trump's Ukraine and Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff was in Moscow, where he met with Russian President Vladimir Putin, when he was included in a group chat,” CBS reported. Given that all U.S. officials are routinely warned about the potential for hacking when in Russia, this is a particularly egregious failure to abide by rudimentary security procedures.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Yes, he was smart to hold it. Just curious though why he didn't let someone know as soon as he saw the mistake. Thats what I'd have done.

As he said, he assumed it was a hoax/troll at first. It was only after the stuff they were talking about in the group started actually happening that he knew it was legitimate - at which point, he left.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

This is different. It is a military operation where many US lives are in jeopardy.

I am almost 100% certain that the people at the top of planing these operations have my and every other service member who will face tip of the spears welfare and wellbeing as their top priority.

 

[iluvatar5150]

The Atlantic has now published the entire text chain, only redacting the name of one individual upon request of the CIA:

Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump’s Advisers Shared on Signal

The administration has downplayed the importance of the text messages inadvertently sent to The Atlantic’s editor in chief.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[wing2000]

The Atlantic has just published additional information:

The new messages, which include screenshots of the full chat on the encrypted consumer messaging app Signal, make clear that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth included specific details of the timing of the launches from aircraft carriers of the U.S. military jets that were to strike Houthi targets.

Launch times are typically closely guarded to ensure that the targets cannot move into hiding or mount a counterattack at the very moment planes are taking off, when they are potentially vulnerable.

Here’s the latest.

www.nytimes.com

“nobody was texting war plans, and that’s all I have to say about that.” -Pete Hegseth

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The Atlantic has just published additional information:

The new messages, which include screenshots of the full chat on the encrypted consumer messaging app Signal, make clear that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth included specific details of the timing of the launches from aircraft carriers of the U.S. military jets that were to strike Houthi targets.

Launch times are typically closely guarded to ensure that the targets cannot move into hiding or mount a counterattack at the very moment planes are taking off, when they are potentially vulnerable.

Here’s the latest.

www.nytimes.com

“nobody was texting war plans, and that’s all I have to say about that.” -Pete Hegseth

An admitted heavy drinker who has now been caught in a lie. Lovely people the GOP has placed in charge of our country.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

He’s a drunk and a liar. Lovely people the GOP has placed in charge of our country.

Pretty good do far, two months in and no resignations, replacements, or firing.

 

[Say it aint so]

The Atlantic has just published additional information:

The new messages, which include screenshots of the full chat on the encrypted consumer messaging app Signal, make clear that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth included specific details of the timing of the launches from aircraft carriers of the U.S. military jets that were to strike Houthi targets.

Launch times are typically closely guarded to ensure that the targets cannot move into hiding or mount a counterattack at the very moment planes are taking off, when they are potentially vulnerable.

Here’s the latest.

www.nytimes.com

“nobody was texting war plans, and that’s all I have to say about that.” -Pete Hegseth

Sen Ossof: Director Radcliffe, this was a huge mistake, correct?
CIA Director Radcliffe: No.

 

[Say it aint so]

Just imagine if this were the Biden Admin and they were sending war plans on Signal just like Pete Hegseth et al.
But instead of Pete, this was a Black women.
What would we be hearing right now?
That's right, DEI, DEI, DEI.
Pete Hegseth has the privilege not to experience that smear.
Wait a minute?
Is that White privilege?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Every time I see "Signal" I am reminded of that great color glossy magazine produced by Joseph Gobbels for the Whermacht troops. I love the reusing of great words from the past.

 

[NxNW]

 

[essentialsaltes]

If the snippets I'm seeing now are genuine, you can certainly feel the concern with which the team faced collateral damage in a target's girlfriend's apartment building.

 

[Say it aint so]

The Secretary of Defense needs to be held to account for the military operational details he shared in the Signal group. It inexescusable and risked American lives. Likewise, peole like Waltz, who certainly knows better based on his prior experience, should have shut it down and moved to secure communications channel. The fact that none of the Sr Cabinet members questioned the discussion taking place on Signal indicates this is likely a commone practice in this administration. One thing is certain: the US military will never trust Hegseth again.

Trump's DOJ won't do squat.
The GOP held house, too busy still investigating Hunter Biden, won't do squat.
There are groups suing to force Judiciary to act.
Judge James Boasberg, the current Judge putting the screws to the Trump admin in the deportation case, has officially been assigned that case:

 

[BPPLEE]

Sean Hannity reveals a secret about Democrats and the Trump team chat leak story | Fox News Video

Fox News host Sean Hannity unpacks Democrats' 'outrage' over the leaked Signal chat message on 'Hannity.'

www.foxnews.com

Sean Hannity sums it right up.

I understand Joe Biden is currently contacted by using a Quija Board

 

[rjs330]

I think it was a good thing that he documented this folly and published it once the publishing no longer endangered the mission.

In other news, the Trump administration has gone on the offensive and slammed both The Atlantic and Goldberg personally.

Well Goldberg and the Atlantic deserve to be slammed.

As soon as Goldberg saw he was in rhe chat he should have notified someone. He should have immediately closed the chat, and let someone know. The fact that he didn't shows he knowingly was receiving secret information. He still could have written about it. But he stayed on. He deserves to be condemned as well as Walz who put him there.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

As soon as Goldberg saw he was in rhe chat he should have notified someone. He should have immediately closed the chat, and let someone know.

In hindsight, perhaps. But I see nothing unreasonable about his initial assumption that it was someone trying to troll him or trap him (Project Veritas style). This is not a scenario that I would expect anyone to immediately perceive as legitimate - a bunch of high-level government officials discussing what should clearly be sensitive or classified information on a commercial messaging app that they just so happened to accidentally invite a journalist into? Pull the other one, it's got bells on. As low as my opinion is of the Trump administration, even I wouldn't have assumed that level of incompetence.

The fact that he didn't shows he knowingly was receiving secret information.

If you don't know that the information you're receiving is classified (because if it was actually classified, why would it be shared on a commercial messaging application?), and you have no way to verify that the people sharing this information are who they claim they are, how could you possibly call that knowingly receiving classified information? Again, as soon as he figured out that it was legitimate, he removed himself from the group.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Well Goldberg and the Atlantic deserve to be slammed.

As soon as Goldberg saw he was in rhe chat he should have notified someone. He should have immediately closed the chat, and let someone know. The fact that he didn't shows he knowingly was receiving secret information. He still could have written about it. But he stayed on. He deserves to be condemned as well as Walz who put him there.

According to his first article (did you read it?), he left after he concluded that the messages were real and not an elaborate hoax and then contacted the people involved about it before publishing his piece.

But yes, it's totally the reporter's fault for winding up in this situation. Perhaps he shouldn't have worn something so skimpy.

 

[That Guy 11200]

Well Goldberg and the Atlantic deserve to be slammed.

As soon as Goldberg saw he was in rhe chat he should have notified someone. He should have immediately closed the chat, and let someone know. The fact that he didn't shows he knowingly was receiving secret information. He still could have written about it. But he stayed on. He deserves to be condemned as well as Walz who put him there.

Indeed. He should have immediately contacted the military and told them incompetent idiots were sharing top secret details of an ongoing military operation on an unapproved, unsecured platform, to which individuals without security clearance were invited.