Illinois House Panel Advances Bill to Strengthen Homeschooling Oversight

[Valletta]

Critics argued the bill would disproportionately burden low-income and minority families.
“This bill targets homeschool parents and treats us as criminals, guilty until proven innocent,” said Aziza Butler, a former public school teacher who now homeschools her children in Chicago.
Supporters pointed to cases of abuse, arguing that some parents use homeschooling as a shield for abuse and neglect.

Illinois House Panel Advances Bill to Strengthen Homeschooling Oversight

The measure, known as the Homeschool Act, would require families to notify their school districts when they decide to homeschool, and that parents or guardians who teach their kids at home have a high school diploma or equivalent.

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Most of the children in Chicago do not meet the competency test standard for reading. Yet the public school administrators are concerned about what texts are being used to teach homeschoolers. What if the books state that human life begins at conception?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Yet the public school administrators are concerned about what texts are being used to teach homeschoolers.

Only in cases where they suspect the homeschooling education is deficient.

 

[Valletta]

Only in cases where they suspect the homeschooling education is deficient.

They need to address their own failures.

 

[essentialsaltes]

They need to address their own failures.

They can walk and chew gum simultaneously.

 

[DaisyDay]

Critics argued the bill would disproportionately burden low-income and minority families.
“This bill targets homeschool parents and treats us as criminals, guilty until proven innocent,” said Aziza Butler, a former public school teacher who now homeschools her children in Chicago.
Supporters pointed to cases of abuse, arguing that some parents use homeschooling as a shield for abuse and neglect.

Illinois House Panel Advances Bill to Strengthen Homeschooling Oversight

The measure, known as the Homeschool Act, would require families to notify their school districts when they decide to homeschool, and that parents or guardians who teach their kids at home have a high school diploma or equivalent.

news.wttw.com

Most of the children in Chicago do not meet the competency test standard for reading. Yet the public school administrators are concerned about what texts are being used to teach homeschoolers. What if the books state that human life begins at conception?

Oversight seems reasonable to me. The idea is that all American children are entitled to a basic education and this bill seeks to ensure such.

If a grade school dropout decides to home-school their passel of kids, the state should look at basic competency to do so. If a parent decides that the best education is to free range the kids and let them raise themselves, the state has a duty to intervene for the sake of the children, same as if the parents decide to let their toddlers provide for their own food and board.

 

[Valletta]

Oversight seems reasonable to me. The idea is that all American children are entitled to a basic education and this bill seeks to ensure such.

If a grade school dropout decides to home-school their passel of kids, the state should look at basic competency to do so. If a parent decides that the best education is to free range the kids and let them raise themselves, the state has a duty to intervene for the sake of the children, same as if the parents decide to let their toddlers provide for their own food and board.

A better law would be one firing (plus civil penalties) all bureaucrats in areas where more than half of the children cannot pass competency tests for reading. The children are entitled to a basic education and these bureaucrats need to answer to the parents.

 

[DaisyDay]

A better law would be one firing (plus civil penalties) all bureaucrats in areas where more than half of the children cannot pass competency tests for reading. The children are entitled to a basic education and these bureaucrats need to answer to the parents.

What a great idea! Because all bureaucrats everywhere, from NASA to county park rangers are equally responsible! This is genius and would be sure to rectify "half the children" not being able to pass a competency test. If the next test get the same results, just fire the whole slate and start again. And again, And again. Surely this brilliant idea will do the trick!

That is a much better solution than oversight.

 

[RileyG]

Critics argued the bill would disproportionately burden low-income and minority families.
“This bill targets homeschool parents and treats us as criminals, guilty until proven innocent,” said Aziza Butler, a former public school teacher who now homeschools her children in Chicago.
Supporters pointed to cases of abuse, arguing that some parents use homeschooling as a shield for abuse and neglect.

Illinois House Panel Advances Bill to Strengthen Homeschooling Oversight

The measure, known as the Homeschool Act, would require families to notify their school districts when they decide to homeschool, and that parents or guardians who teach their kids at home have a high school diploma or equivalent.

news.wttw.com

Most of the children in Chicago do not meet the competency test standard for reading. Yet the public school administrators are concerned about what texts are being used to teach homeschoolers. What if the books state that human life begins at conception?

Hasn't studies shown homeschooled students have better reading, math, and social skills than those in public schools? Or is my memory faulty?

 

[Pommer]

A better law would be one firing (plus civil penalties) all bureaucrats in areas where more than half of the children cannot pass competency tests for reading. The children are entitled to a basic education and these bureaucrats need to answer to the parents.

“Let’s punish people” ?
How is this conducive to obtaining better schooling outcomes?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Hasn't studies shown homeschooled students have better reading, math, and social skills than those in public schools? Or is my memory faulty?

It totally depends on the parents as to how homeschooling goes.

Parents that are well educated, highly value education and are financially capable of spending the time needed to do homeschooling can do very well.

A parent who barely passed high school, has discipline issues with a student, and is financially struggling often not successful with it. I have run into that where students returning to school after a period of homeschooling were further behind than when they left.

 

[RileyG]

It totally depends on the parents as to how homeschooling goes.

Parents that are well educated, highly value education and are financially capable of spending the time needed to do homeschooling can do very well.

A parent who barely passed high school, has discipline issues with a student, and is financially struggling often not successful with it. I have run into that where students returning to school after a period of homeschooling were further behind than when they left.

That doesn't really surprise me.

 

[Valletta]

“Let’s punish people” ?
How is this conducive to obtaining better schooling outcomes?

The best teachers need to be able to teach. The unions and bureaucrats have them mired in paperwork, teaching all kinds of woke subjects when they should be concentrating on English and then math, and won't enforce discipline in the schools.

 

[FreeinChrist]

The best teachers need to be able to teach. The unions and bureaucrats have them mired in paperwork, teaching all kinds of woke subjects when they should be concentrating on English and then math, and won't enforce discipline in the schools.

Have you worked in education?

I ask as it doesn't sound like you have. State legislatures are the ones who mire teachers in paperwork, chose the testing companies and determined who can get a teaching certificate and what must be done up renew it every 3 years. It isn't the unions. The unions do not determine subjects to be studied. For most districts, it is the School board that determine what textbooks and the curriculum for each grade or course of study in upper grades.

I have no idea what "woke" subjects some folks think are being taught. Perhaps check out your local school district and check their cirriculum.
For instance, where my kids went has the cirrriculum available online.
Check the cirriculum for Language Arts for Kindergarten:

https://www.azed.gov/sites/default/files/2016/12/Kindergarten%202016%20ELA%20Standards.pdf?id=585aabc2aadebe12481b8464

There is something similar for Math, Science, and Social Studies.

 

[Valletta]

Have you worked in education?

I ask as it doesn't sound like you have. State legislatures are the ones who mire teachers in paperwork, chose the testing companies and determined who can get a teaching certificate and what must be done up renew it every 3 years. It isn't the unions. The unions do not determine subjects to be studied. For most districts, it is the School board that determine what textbooks and the curriculum for each grade or course of study in upper grades.

I have no idea what "woke" subjects some folks think are being taught. Perhaps check out your local school district and check their cirriculum.
For instance, where my kids went has the cirrriculum available online.
Check the cirriculum for Language Arts for Kindergarten:

https://www.azed.gov/sites/default/files/2016/12/Kindergarten%202016%20ELA%20Standards.pdf?id=585aabc2aadebe12481b8464

There is something similar for Math, Science, and Social Studies.

"Areas he said teachers’ unions want promoted in schools include: critical race theory, the Black Lives Matter movement, DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion), gender ideology, anti-semitism, socialism and helping children identifying as transgender without their parents’ knowledge."
"Withe said the TFA supports free market principles in education, like rewarding good teachers with more money and firing bad teachers, regardless of longevity."

Teacher Freedom Alliance touts free-market alternative to teachers’ unions

(The Center Square) – What’s the free-market alternative to teachers’ unions?

www.keysnews.com

I hope this article helps you become more familiar with the situation nationwide.

 

[Pommer]

The best teachers need to be able to teach. The unions and bureaucrats have them mired in paperwork, teaching all kinds of woke subjects when they should be concentrating on English and then math, and won't enforce discipline in the schools.

Was this supposed to answer “How is this [punishment] conducive to obtaining better schooling outcomes?”, I ask because it doesn’t.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Teacher Freedom Alliance touts free-market alternative to teachers’ unions

(The Center Square) – What’s the free-market alternative to teachers’ unions?

www.keysnews.com

I hope this article helps you become more familiar with the situation nationwide.

Was there an article buried in those ads somewhere? I did not see one.

 

[FreeinChrist]

"Areas he said teachers’ unions want promoted in schools include: critical race theory, the Black Lives Matter movement, DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion), gender ideology, anti-semitism, socialism and helping children identifying as transgender without their parents’ knowledge."
"Withe said the TFA supports free market principles in education, like rewarding good teachers with more money and firing bad teachers, regardless of longevity."

Teacher Freedom Alliance touts free-market alternative to teachers’ unions

(The Center Square) – What’s the free-market alternative to teachers’ unions?

www.keysnews.com

I hope this article helps you become more familiar with the situation nationwide.

Who is Areas?

It looks like a very biased right wing conspiracy piece. Show me the actual documentation of a teacher's union dictating cirriculum. I strongly suggest you look up your local school district and check out the local teacher's union to get more educated on the topic.

 

[Valletta]

Who is Areas?

It looks like a very biased right wing conspiracy piece. Show me the actual documentation of a teacher's union dictating cirriculum. I strongly suggest you look up your local school district and check out the local teacher's union to get more educated on the topic.

An alternative to the current teacher's union is hardly a conspiracy. There is no shame in trying something new when past programs have failed.

 

[Hans Blaster]

An alternative to the current teacher's union is hardly a conspiracy. There is no shame in trying something new when past programs have failed.

Which one? There are two major national organization of teachers unions: National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers. Any school administrator or board is talking about a local of the statewide organization of a union (likely one of these two).

 

[Pommer]

An alternative to the current teacher's union is hardly a conspiracy. There is no shame in trying something new when past programs have failed.

Like eliminating the Department of Education?
That’ll work wonders!