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You’re going to have to define ”judicial activism”, now.
Otherwise it might look like rank partisan bickering.

Any judge appointed by a Democrat or any judge who rules in favor of the Democrat position.
 
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"all of the people who are against it have ample time to figure out ways to undermine the underlying idea and manipulate public opinion"
Forgot the "on the taxpayers money" ^^^
 
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If senior leaders at the Pentagon are given discretion on where to make budget cuts, why were the leaders at US AID, NPS, Agriculture etc given the same opportunity? Or will DoD employees be subject to the Musk dragnet?

Where are the DoD cuts?
 
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Glad we all agree that his early actions demonstrate that he's the danger to the republic that many warned about. Presidential power is limited by the Constitution for good reason.
How can a president be a danger? Doesn't the constitution work properly? Or does it have weak spots that can be penetrated?

Perhaps this president is only dangerous to a specific, modern agenda, and not to the republic at all.
 

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The reality is that judges are stopping his over-reaches of presidential power.
And they haven't failed in that yet, have they?

...Don't be nervous. Trust the system, it works. Trump is not the first person in US history to have an attitude and personality like this.

We can celebrate the design and functionability of our government, together, even across party lines. We can find the true middle by seeing the extent of the extremes, and where they end... Together.

...No harm in that.
 
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And they haven't failed in that yet, have they?
It's not entirely clear. The Trump Administration has not fully obeyed some court orders to the consternation of some of the judges.

Most recently, a judge ordered planes carrying Venezuelans to "turn around". They did not.

US deports hundreds of Venezuelans despite court order

A plane carrying more than 200 Venezuelans deported by the US has landed in El Salvador, hours after a US judge ordered the Trump administration not to do so.

El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele ... made fun of [this] in a later post.

"Oopsie... Too late," he said.

...Don't be nervous. Trust the system, it works.
A certain somebody is chipping away at the constitutional checks and balances.


"Doesn't the constitution work properly? Or does it have weak spots that can be penetrated?"

How does the judiciary enforce its orders? Are they going to call the US Marshals [part of the executive branch] to arrest another part of the executive branch?
 
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It's not entirely clear. The Trump Administration has not fully obeyed some court orders to the consternation of some of the judges.

Most recently, a judge ordered planes carrying Venezuelans to "turn around". They did not.

US deports hundreds of Venezuelans despite court order

A plane carrying more than 200 Venezuelans deported by the US has landed in El Salvador, hours after a US judge ordered the Trump administration not to do so.

El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele ... made fun of [this] in a later post.

"Oopsie... Too late," he said.


A certain somebody is chipping away at the constitutional checks and balances.


"Doesn't the constitution work properly? Or does it have weak spots that can be penetrated?"

How does the judiciary enforce its orders? Are they going to call the US Marshals [part of the executive branch] to arrest another part of the executive branch?
You'll just have to get used to fixing wrongs, rather than issuing punishments (arrests).

Not every wrong action deserves retribution. Consider it a test of one's patience... Patience, being something much needed in this day and age.
 
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Deporting the Venezuelans was 'wrong' i.e. violated a court order. Will it be fixed?
Of course, if it was against the law, they should all be allowed back in. That's going to have to be good enough.
No, I'm not interested in Asleepness. I'm going to pay attention and First Amendment as much as I like.
By all means, hold your ground and the right should hold theirs. When one side realizes it was in the wrong, *do not* double down, but be honest in our dealings.
 
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I like the following definition:

judicial activism​

Judicial activism refers to the practice of judges making rulings based on their policy views rather than their honest interpretation of the current law . Judicial activism is usually contrasted with the concept of judicial restraint, which is characterized by a focus on stare decisis and a reluctance to reinterpret the law.

Judicial activism is often maligned by judges and political pundits. On both ends of the political spectrum, accusations of judicial activism are commonplace. Critics argue that, regardless of whether their chosen policy was advisable, judicial activism exceeds the proper exercise of judicial authority .

Common critiques of judicial activism include arguments that:

  • A judge cannot be a neutral arbiter of disputes if they intend to rewrite the law at the outset of a case .
  • It is unjust to hold parties to a novel interpretation of the law.
  • Judicial activism risks upsetting the balance between the three branches of government.
  • As judges are unelected, judge-made policies are less likely to receive wide acceptance from the general public.
  • Judges are often ill-equipped to make sound public policy decisions.
Despite these critiques judicial activism is not always seen as a negative. Judicial activism is inherently anti-majoritarian, and proponents of judicial activism view it as a necessary check on legislative overreach.

And yet your only proof of this (supposed) “judicial activism” is that they’ve ruled against an action made by the president. This is common occurrence.
Please enjoy being outraged over the normal course of events.
 
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It's not entirely clear. The Trump Administration has not fully obeyed some court orders to the consternation of some of the judges.

Most recently, a judge ordered planes carrying Venezuelans to "turn around". They did not.

US deports hundreds of Venezuelans despite court order

A plane carrying more than 200 Venezuelans deported by the US has landed in El Salvador, hours after a US judge ordered the Trump administration not to do so.

El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele ... made fun of [this] in a later post. "Oopsie... Too late," he said.

Timeline: Trump's race against courts to deport alleged gang members under Alien Enemies Act

5:22 p.m.: Boasberg pauses the hearing so Department of Justice lawyers can confirm whether the Trump administration is actively deporting noncitizens pursuant to the AEA declaration.

5:25 p.m.: The first flight (G66143) carrying some alleged members of Tren de Aragua subject to Trump's proclamation departs Harlingen, Texas en route to Comayagua, Honduras. [#2 at 5:44]

6:05 p.m.: Boasberg resumes the emergency hearing. Deputy Assistant Attorney General Drew Ensign first declined to say whether any deportations were ongoing, saying disclosing "operational details" would raise "potential national security issues." He later acknowledges that two flights had already departed.

6:44 p.m.: Boasberg says he will issue a temporary restraining order blocking the deportation of any noncitizen subject to Trump's proclamation. "Flights are actively departing and plan to depart. I do not believe that I am able to wait any longer," he said.

6:46 p.m.: Boasberg orders the DOJ to immediately turn around two planes if they are carrying noncitizens covered by his order.

7:37 p.m.: The first deportation flight (G66143) that departed Texas arrives in Honduras. [#2 after 8]

11:39 p.m.: The first deportation flight (G66143) departs Honduras for San Salvador, El Salvador. [#2 a few minutes later]

12:10 a.m.: The first deportation flight (G66143) lands in El Salvador. [#2 a few minutes later]

5:30 p.m.: In a court filing, the Trump administration says they are complying with the court's order but vowed to continue deporting noncitizens. The Department of Justice also acknowledged that the Trump administration had deported some "gang members" yesterday subject to the Alien Enemies Act but claimed the removals happened before the court issued its order.
 
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Of course, if it was against the law, they should all be allowed back in. That's going to have to be good enough.

By all means, hold your ground and the right should hold theirs. When one side realizes it was in the wrong, *do not* double down, but be honest in our dealings.

Trump admin live updates: White House doesn't 'care' what judges say about deportation flights

"We are not stopping. I don't care what the judges think," Tom Homan said.

"It wasn't until this flight was already [in] international waters heading down to El Salvador that the judge made some comment [i.e. a court order] about returning the flights. We are already in international waters. We are outside the borders of the United States. I'm the border czar. Once you are outside the border, you know, it is what it is," Homan said.

Homan said that there would be "another flight every day" when asked about what's next for immigration efforts.
 
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Trump admin live updates: White House doesn't 'care' what judges say about deportation flights

"We are not stopping. I don't care what the judges think," Tom Homan said.

"It wasn't until this flight was already [in] international waters heading down to El Salvador that the judge made some comment [i.e. a court order] about returning the flights. We are already in international waters. We are outside the borders of the United States. I'm the border czar. Once you are outside the border, you know, it is what it is," Homan said.

Homan said that there would be "another flight every day" when asked about what's next for immigration efforts.
Woa, hold on second. Before, we were talking about Venezuelans, and now El Salvadorans. You know, some of these people are criminals and gang members... What's this judge up to?

Is he saying *nobody* can be deported by Homeland Security or ICE?
 

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Woa, hold on second. Before, we were talking about Venezuelans, and now El Salvadorans.
No, we are talking about Venezuelans. They have been deported to El Salvador.
Is he saying *nobody* can be deported by Homeland Security or ICE?
He is saying that, in the absence of wartime, the Alien Enemies act cannot be used at all, much less to evade people's due process rights.
 
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What part of Levin's lip flapping do you wish to discuss? The video is more than 1/4 hour long.
I would like to use a figurative phrase of speech in my response here to this post. IMO, Mark Levin has forgotten much more about the US Constitution and the Constitutional rule of law than the vast majority of liberals in the USA have ever known.
 

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I would like to use a figurative phrase of speech in my response here to this post.
I ain't stoppin' ya.
IMO, Mark Levin has forgotten much more about the US Constitution and the Constitutional rule of law than the vast majority of liberals in the USA have ever known.
I've paged through his book on the Constitution (or rather his perferred amendments to it) and there is nothing good in it. His ideas are all bad or dangerous.

Your complaints about my comment don't tell me at all what Levin said that is remotely interesting or relevant.
 
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I ain't stoppin' ya.

I've paged through his book on the Constitution (or rather his perferred amendments to it) and there is nothing good in it. His ideas are all bad or dangerous.

Your complaints about my comment don't tell me at all what Levin said that is remotely interesting or relevant.
IMO, Mark Levin's ideas are only dangerous towards the ideas of progressive left-wing liberalism. I am not going to take up any of my time explaining something that you appear to categorically reject.
 

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IMO, Mark Levin's ideas are only dangerous towards the ideas of progressive left-wing liberalism. I am not going to take up any of my time explaining something that you appear to categorically reject.
I don't think returning to legislatively elected Senators as Levin advocates (among other things in that book) is either a good idea or on topic. I'm waiting for the person who posted the video to bother telling us what is important about it.
 
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