Woman in Woman's Restroom in Tucson Walmart confronted by sheriff's deputies; One deputy insisted she “looked like a man”

[stevil]

That's correct. And women have no.idea if the man exposing themselves is really Trans or not. Whats special is the fact that men can CLAIM to be Trans and there is nothing to stop them from doing so and being in womens spaces.

Can you tell if a man is really Trans by looking at them?

Like, knowing the difference between a cross dresser vs a Trans person?
It's not my place to assess such things. I certainly don't go up to people and examine them to see which is which.

That's true. And if we get rid of men in women's spaces we will have fewer men exposing themselves, fewer sexual.assaults and rape or surreptitious observation ot men getting off on being in the womens space.

There are very few incidents of trans people exposing themselves or doing sexual assaults in womens spaces.

We will also have fewer women being harmed in their sporting events including the harm of losing out on awards and scholarships.

I agree that trans women shouldn't be competing in womens sports.

Because we care about women?

Unlikely. You just hate trans and gays.

 

[stevil]

So this is a performative thing then?

It doesn't come down to the XY genes.

Good, then you should know that they don't belong in a womans space. Because a woman is biologically determined.

A female is biologically determined yes. But a Trans woman isn't biologically determined.

 

[stevil]

It was a man shaving and he was in womens space. A womans locker room where women undress. Entirely inappropriate. Do you know he wasnt there to get his sexual jollies by staring at undressing or undressed women?

Generally trans women aren't attracted to women. Are you saying that lesbian women shouldn't be allowed in women's locker rooms?

 

[stevil]

Are we talking about killing people or just simply making sure a crime isn't going to take place? I don't think we should be going around and shooting anyone.

But if someone is somewhere they shouldn't be

How about a black person in a predominately white neighbourhood.

Should the whitey's be rushing to call the police of this suspicious behaviour?
Or should they and their wife come out of the house with their guns and confront the scary black people?

and those someones have committed crimes there then yes we should check it out.

Absolutely, if crimes are being committed. But not if a person is simply trans or black or jew or whatever.

Did you somehow think checking it out is equal to going around and shooting people? Seems like an odd comparison.

It's about being suspicious of a person because of who they are, what demographic they belong to, rather than them doing anything untoward or suspicious.

 

[stevil]

I dont care what you were responding to. I'm responding to your comment.

The flow of the conversation is important, it's all about context. Taking things out of context is stupid and dishonest.

 

[stevil]

Both are within a person's constitutional rights to do. Freedom of speech and freedom of association is upheld by the courts as part of the first amendment.

You can choose to be disruptive and hateful and bigoted if you want. But don't be surprised if you get kicked out of work, or restaurants or gyms, or whatever. Most people don't want bigots on their properties.

Is there somewhere gays hang out that Christian's go to for the express purpose of telling them they are going to hell?

Many Christians take it upon themselves to approach gays on the street in public spaces.

Usually I think Christians just try to share the Gospel with the lost when there's appropriate opportunities.

Lovely. Even when people don't want you harassing them or saying nasty things to them. Anyway, your choice, if you want to represent your religion that way. You make people like me to become anti-theist.

In this case, the illness is sin and the Savior is Christ.

Oh boy, you must be a joy to be around.

When literally everything one says is hatred or bigotry if it disagrees in any way with the far left, hatred and bigotry become words without meaning.

Hatred and bigotry is when you pick out people of a demographic and hassle them, call them names, tell them they are bad and unworthy.
I'm surprised you don't know this already.

i was pro gay marriage until the LBG crowd turned into the crowd ready to take your son and castrate them.

Non sequitur

Why doesn't the left leave children alone?

Huh?

 

[stevil]

Based on your logic, Jesus was a "hateful bigot" for saying "go and sin no more."

Did Jesus pick on a minority and say that to them in specific?

 

[stevil]

If they left us alone and lived their lives privately, maybe there wouldn't be such an uproar about it.

Lived their lives privately LOL.
They can be as public as the rest of us. Equality is what they want.

 

[BPPLEE]

There is a difference between "feeling like" and knowing.

How can they feel like a woman if they don’t know how it feels to be a woman?

 

[Belk]

There are quite a few rational reasons. And they have been provided over and over again. That fact that you don't see them as rational and think it's more rational to believe that a biological man can actually BE a woman because of his feelings us quite interesting.

Many people think their feelings are rational, they are not.

 

[Belk]

Rationally speaking, only biological women belong in woman only spaces.

Men who identify as a woman can use the unisex restroom.

Their feelings or identity do not trump the rights of all women.

Period!

I must of missed this right to only have certain people in a restroom. Where is this right spelled out?

 

[NxNW]

....also let's no forget about Monica Lewinsky...considering the power Mr. Clinton had over her...

Don't forget, she pursued Clinton after he tried to break it off.

 

[NxNW]

Why did Bill Clinton have to pay Paula Jones all that money?

I don't know, but the judge said there was no sexual assault.

 

[NxNW]

If they left us alone and lived their lives privately, maybe there wouldn't be such an uproar about it.

Separate but equal, is that right?

 

[NxNW]

How about a black person in a predominately white neighbourhood.

Should the whitey's be rushing to call the police of this suspicious behaviour?

A black man was arrested on his own porch by the police when Obama was in office. Obama criticized the police and the GOP still insists to this day that Obama and the homeowner were both wrong.

So obviously living a private life on your own property isn't acceptable to the GOP.

 

[Belk]

Lol. Saying sin is sin isn't hateful or judgmental. And NO! I never told anyone they're going to hell. That judgment is reserved for GOD ALONE.

What hatred or bigotry? Saying men are men and women are women is NOT hatred nor is it bigotry.

If they left us alone and lived their lives privately, maybe there wouldn't be such an uproar about it.

Who is "they" and who is "us"? In what fashion are they not leaving you alone? Because unless I miss my guess, you are talking about people who are pushing for what they believe to be equality and the only way it is impacting you is you being informed of it by whatever news source you consume.

 

[BPPLEE]

A black man was arrested on his own porch by the police when Obama was in office. Obama criticized the police and the GOP still insists to this day that Obama and the homeowner were both wrong.

So obviously living a private life on your own property isn't acceptable to the GOP.

The police saw a man breaking in a house, and asked for ID, they were just trying to confirm that he lived there.

 

[stevil]

How can they feel like a woman if they don’t know how it feels to be a woman?

I have that question too. I don't understand it, and yet I'm still respectful of them.

 

[Hazelelponi]

You can choose to be disruptive and hateful and bigoted if you want. But don't be surprised if you get kicked out of work, or restaurants or gyms, or whatever. Most people don't want bigots on their properties

^^^ this sounds threatening and it's definitely a personal attack against me - because I noted that people have freedom of both speech and association in this country your talking about physical threats of job loss, being thrown out of restaurants, or other public places.

That's like the weirdest response ever to making note in writing what people's constitutionally protected rights are during a discussion about legal issues in our nation.

I am done conversing with you. This is not a rational response to a notation about the law.

Peace. I will speak to you about God sometime, but clearly now is not the time.

 

[essentialsaltes]

^^^ this sounds threatening and it's definitely a personal attack against me - because I noted that people have freedom of both speech and association in this country your talking about physical threats of job loss, being thrown out of restaurants, or other public places.

These are not physical threats. Being thrown out is more like 'being asked to leave'. Not a burly bouncer.

Also, I take the 'you' to be a generalized statement, not you personally. If one says such things loudly in public, one can expect some unpleasant consequences.