Rfk drops ball

[rambot]

So, FYI anyone, here is the complete Executive Order establishing the Make America Healthy Again Commission:

Establishing the President's Make America Healthy Again Commission

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1.

www.whitehouse.gov

And here is the portion regarding SSRIs, etc:

(iii) assess the prevalence of and threat posed by the prescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, stimulants, and weight-loss drugs;

I don't see anything wrong with doing an assessment of the prevalence of or threat posed by the prescribing of those drugs. Those drugs may work safely for some, maybe even many, but let's not be like an ostrich and put our heads in the sand when it comes to looking more closely at the potential risks and side effects that others may experience when taking them.

Ok but my original point still stands.

Why not deal with the illnesses themselves? Why focus on a cure that is helpful for many but maybe not perfect for all? It's an inefficient use of funds.

 

[rambot]

The part that raised my eyebrow was:

(a) study the scope of the childhood chronic disease crisis and any potential contributing causes, including the American diet, absorption of toxic material, medical treatments, lifestyle, environmental factors, Government policies, food production techniques, electromagnetic radiation, and corporate influence or cronyism;

I mean, yes, we should protect kids from sunburn, but I doubt that's what these yahoos are thinking.

Strange that poverty isn't listed there. Maybe lifestyles is supposed to reflect that?

 

[rambot]

Okay then, what SOLUTION should RFK be going after?

I think he should be looking at the root causes of those diseases and then make plans to treat them at the source.

It seems more like he's trying to find evidence foe conspiracy theories than solutions that would increase positive health outcomes. At least on this matter.

 

[DaisyDay]

Okay then, what SOLUTION should RFK be going after?

Wouldn't that be decided after after the assessment, based on said assessment?

 

[ozso]

I think he should be looking at the root causes of those diseases and then make plans to treat them at the source.

It seems more like he's trying to find evidence foe conspiracy theories than solutions that would increase positive health outcomes. At least on this matter.

Why is it suddenly up to RFK to discover the root causes? Has there been any research to discover the root causes so far? Are there a leading researchers in this field, or is RFK going to be the pioneer? Has there been any discussion within the medical community to limit or in some cases eliminate the use of SSRIs previous to RFK's appointment?

 

[RileyG]

Why would someone be against SSRI's? Are they a psychiatrist?

SMH

 

[ozso]

Govt should be staying out of the medical space. Let the medical experts decide which drugs are best for people. Govt should focus on trying to reduce inflation, improving infrastructure, providing funding and services for those in need, etc

What's been the job of the Secretary of Health and Human Services along the lines of medication regulation? Do you think the job and department should be eliminated?

 

[stevil]

What's been the job of the Secretary of Health and Human Services along the lines of medication regulation? Do you think the job and department should be eliminated?

No, not at all.
FDA is required to assess that drugs are safe and affective.
Government should be involved in funding for medical stuff, like hospitals and various medications.

It's not the minister of Health's job to pull vaccines or SSRIs or whatnot just because on a whim, he doesn't like them.
If FDA gives approval then they are fit for medication.

 

[ozso]

No, not at all.
FDA is required to assess that drugs are safe and affective.
Government should be involved in funding for medical stuff, like hospitals and various medications.

It's not the minister of Health's job to pull vaccines or SSRIs or whatnot just because on a whim, he doesn't like them.
If FDA gives approval then they are fit for medication.

Has there been no discussion regarding limiting or in some cases eliminating SSRIs before RFK's appointment?

 

[ozso]

Wouldn't that be decided after after the assessment, based on said assessment?

There have been no assessments before now?

 

[stevil]

Has there been no discussion regarding limiting or in some cases eliminating SSRIs before RFK's appointment?

No idea. I'm just saying it is upto medical scientists to determine if SSRIs are fit for use. Not some elected politician with potentially crackpot conspiracy ideas.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Eh? I don’t think I had much choice, but that’s another can of worms ..,

We all had a choice. Some just chose more wisely than others. We will all reap what has been sown. Some will regret that more than others.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Why would someone be against SSRI's? Are they a psychiatrist?

SMH

No RFK Jr. is certainly not a psychiatrist.

 

[rambot]

Why is it suddenly up to RFK to discover the root causes? Has there been any research to discover the root causes so far? Are there a leading researchers in this field, or is RFK going to be the pioneer? Has there been any discussion within the medical community to limit or in some cases eliminate the use of SSRIs previous to RFK's appointment?

As I said. He seems to be trying to prove conspiracy theories more than provide best medicine.

You ask a lot of questions someone like RFK should know the answer to but I do not.

 

[ozso]

As I said. He seems to be trying to prove conspiracy theories more than provide best medicine.

You ask a lot of questions someone like RFK should know the answer to but I do not.

I just wanted to establish that you don't really know what you're talking about.

 

[BPPLEE]

Govt should be staying out of the medical space. Let the medical experts decide which drugs are best for people. Govt should focus on trying to reduce inflation, improving infrastructure, providing funding and services for those in need, etc

This post sounds pretty conservative

 

[stevil]

This post sounds pretty conservative

Ohh, so I'm not a radical leftist??

 

[BPPLEE]

Ohh, so I'm not a radical leftist??

That particular post isn’t

 

[Fantine]

RFK, Jr. had close family members who committed suicide. His estranged wife, Mary, hanged herself. For years he had been a serial philanderer and had a high-profile sexual assault accusation from the family babysitter (Wikipedia), so his reprehensible behavior may have had a part in her suicide.

His brother, David, died of a drug overdose at age 28, reportedly introduced to drugs by RFK, Jr. (source, Wikipedia and his cousin Caroline.)

You would think that, having seen the effects of depression (even if he was the cause of the depression) he would recognize the benefits of non-addictive anti-depressants. (I know that some anti-anxiety drugs can have addictive properties)

Perhaps RFK's own 14 year descent into heroin addiction could have been stopped by appropriate psychiatric meds after his father's assassination.

 

[stevil]

That particular post isn’t

I'm socially liberal because I believe in having minimum government not a nanny state. Also because people should be free to make their own life choices.