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Days after Trump takes over, US has first mid-air collision in 16 years

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January 20: FAA director quits after Elon Musk orders him to resign
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January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
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January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
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January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
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January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years; Trump blames it on DEI

FAA Administrator Quit on Jan. 20 After Elon Musk Told Him to Resign

Teens from a Boston skating club, their mothers, and coaches among passengers killed in air crash

 
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Probably a bad moment to be without an FAA admin.

As for the rest, surely its just really badly timed coincidence. And the buyout was an offer, not a demand.

Oh... except for Trump blaming DEI for this. No coincidence. Thats just him winding up his MAGA people. It will probably work.
 
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Probably a bad moment to be without an FAA admin.

As for the rest, surely its just really badly timed coincidence. And the buyout was an offer, not a demand.

Oh... except for Trump blaming DEI for this. No coincidence. Thats just him winding up his MAGA people. It will probably work.
What happens when "alternate fact" , imaginative lies and incorrect information hits reality? And a large part of the country cannot acknowledge it?
 
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January 20: FAA director quits after Elon Musk orders him to resign
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January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
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January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
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January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
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January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years; Trump blames it on DEI

FAA Administrator Quit on Jan. 20 After Elon Musk Told Him to Resign

Teens from a Boston skating club, their mothers, and coaches among passengers killed in air crash

Correlation does not equal causation.
 
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Helicopter pilot’s at fault, by all current indications.

Trump’s comments don’t help, but there’s nothing to suggest he’s at fault. FAA admin in-post or not doesn’t alter human error in those circumstances.
 
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I just posted the facts.
It would have also been factual to include all the aviation incidents of near-misses and collisions on the tarmac that happened over the past 4 years while biden (or other group of people) were in charge. It's not as if aviation accidents suddenly began just a week after Trump became president. We've been hearing about such things on the news on a regular basis. https://www.faa.gov/closecalls#:~:text=A runway incursion is any,greatly in type and severity.
 
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It would have also been factual to include all the aviation incidents of near-misses and collisions on the tarmac that happened over the past 4 years while biden (or other group of people) were in charge. It's not as if aviation accidents suddenly began just a week after Trump became president. We've been hearing about such things on the news on a regular basis. https://www.faa.gov/closecalls#:~:text=A runway incursion is any,greatly in type and severity.
I agree but Trump is using this incident (which could have happened because of many factors) to blame the Biden administration and I can't tell how it could be Biden's or Trump's fault. It's a whole administration. There are so many places we can try to place blame but not the President. I mean, do we blame the governors from each of our states for an armed robbery or a car accident on a state highway?

The reason I am even commenting is because Trump is using this tragedy to score political points. Most genuine citizens can tell he has either no care for the victims of this tragedy and/or he is manipulating the public to score political points.

IMO I feel like most if not all politicians lie cheat and steal. However, I have a feeling about politicians who are roundly supported by racists, classists, homophobes, and Xenophopes. It's not a judgment on Trume but I truly believe he is one of their ilk. I remember his first presidential race when it was openly shared that he kept "Mein Kampf" on his nightstand. That is not bad in and of itself. I think people should read whatever they want but to read and reread over and over the blueprint for Aryian supremacy and global dictatorship, not to mention the extermintion of Israel (Judens) just creeps me out.
 
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It would have also been factual to include all the aviation incidents of near-misses and collisions on the tarmac that happened over the past 4 years while biden (or other group of people) were in charge. It's not as if aviation accidents suddenly began just a week after Trump became president.
There were no midair collisions under Biden. And of course, Biden didn't blame plane crashes on the wrong people before facts were in, either.
 
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I agree but Trump is using this incident (which could have happened because of many factors) to blame the Biden administration and I can't tell how it could be Biden's or Trump's fault. It's a whole administration. There are so many places we can try to place blame but not the President. I mean, do we blame the governors from each of our states for an armed robbery or a car accident on a state highway?

The reason I am even commenting is because Trump is using this tragedy to score political points. Most genuine citizens can tell he has either no care for the victims of this tragedy and/or he is manipulating the public to score political points.

IMO I feel like most if not all politicians lie cheat and steal. However, I have a feeling about politicians who are roundly supported by racists, classists, homophobes, and Xenophopes. It's not a judgment on Trume but I truly believe he is one of their ilk. I remember his first presidential race when it was openly shared that he kept "Mein Kampf" on his nightstand. That is not bad in and of itself. I think people should read whatever they want but to read and reread over and over the blueprint for Aryian supremacy and global dictatorship, not to mention the extermintion of Israel (Judens) just creeps me out.
In this thread, I'm mainly seeing this incident being used as an opportunity to attack Trump, even while most of the bodies are still within the fuselage of the plane submerged in the water.
The sensitivity that used to be so important to the anti-Trump crowd seems to have become more calloused these days.
 
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There were no midair collisions under Biden.
Nor under Trump during his first term.

And of course, Biden didn't blame plane crashes on the wrong people before facts were in, either.
LOL! He blamed Trump for pretty much everything:



 
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Nor under Trump during his first term.
You're correct: All we had was a pandemic, recession, record unemployment, insurrection, stolen documents . . . Trump was roo busy committing other atrocities to get around to it!
He blamed Trump for pretty much everything:
Trump was guilty of a lot of things, it's true.
 
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You're correct: All we had was a pandemic, recession, record unemployment, insurrection, stolen documents . . . Trump was roo busy committing other atrocities to get around to it!
Why are you talking about biden's term in office?

Trump was guilty of a lot of things, it's true.
Only according to biden. The voters decided otherwise.
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Why are you talking about biden's term in office?
I'm not. Biden corrected Trump's failures. There was no recession; the pandemic ended, record job creation, etc. He even ended the inflation that resulted from the supply chain interuption. Pretty amazing when you think about it.
Only according to biden.
And the jury.
The voters decided otherwise.
The voters made no such decision. They were concerned about the price of eggs, remember?
MAGA baby! Yeeeeaaahhh! Woo hooooo!
Friendly reminder: goading is against the site rules.


More importantly: There has been another plane crash in Philly. They're falling out of the sky right and left.
 
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I'm not. Biden corrected Trump's failures. There was no recession; the pandemic ended, record job creation, etc. He even ended the inflation that resulted from the supply chain interuption. Pretty amazing when you think about it.
Inflation only dropped starting after the election.

The voters made no such decision. They were concerned about the price of eggs, remember?
Did they say that? I remember them saying it was border security and inflation.

Friendly reminder: goading is against the site rules.
Do you feel goaded by my joy in Trump being elected?

More importantly: There has been another plane crash in Philly. They're falling out of the sky right and left.
It's only "important" if Trump's detractors can figure out a way to claim that Trump caused it to happen.
But keep going that route if you wish. It's not helping gain support for those who hate Trump.
 
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Inflation only dropped starting after the election.
2022 Midterms, yes.
Did they say that? I remember them saying it was border security and inflation.
You keep changing your argument with every thread about what the voters think.
It's only "important" if Trump's detractors can figure out a way to claim that Trump caused it to happen. But keep going that route if you wish. It's not helping gain support for those who hate Trump.
I'm sorry you feel that tragic deaths aren't important.
 
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