PCUSA backs Episcopal Bishop Mariann Budde who rebuked Trump in sermon

[Fantine]

No such thing as a female Bishop in the Holy Bible, the woman (Budde) is nothing more than a liberal activist dressed up in a religious costume

There are many expressions of Christianity, all leading people to Christ. There is much that is good about the Episcopal Church.
I knew a little girl who grew up Catholic, now in her thirties, who became an Episcopal priest. I had lost touch with them when I moved to another state, but learned about this through social media contacts. I know her. I know her family. I strongly believe she leads people to Christ who would never set foot in an evangelical Church because God speaks to their hearts and souls in a different way.

Women can't be Bishops/Pastors it's contrary to biblical teaching

A Bishop/Pastor "Must" be the husband of one wife, a man, (Mariann Budde) (Paula White) nor any other woman qualifies

1 Timothy 3:1-2KJV
1 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

I respect the right of your denomination to establish rules for your denomination using whatever rationale they choose to use.
I respect the Episcopal and other churches' right to do the same

 

[Truth7t7]

She preached pure gospel; “feed the hungry, give water to thirsty, give shelter to stranger, clothed the naked, look after the sick, visit those who are in prison. take care the widow give justice to the weak and fatherless take care immigrants “ , and asked President to show Marcy.

However, some Christians find challenges with the gospel today as it may not align with their political perspectives.

Marianne Budde is a liberal political activist dressed up in a religious costume

 

[Truth7t7]

There are many expressions of Christianity, all leading people to Christ. There is much that is good about the Episcopal Church.
I knew a little girl who grew up Catholic, now in her thirties, who became an Episcopal priest. I had lost touch with them when I moved to another state, but learned about this through social media contacts. I know her. I know her family. I strongly believe she leads people to Christ who would never set foot in an evangelical Church because God speaks to their hearts and souls in a different way.

I respect the right of your denomination to establish rules for your denomination using whatever rationale they choose to use.
I respect the Episcopal and other churches' right to do the same

Women can't be Bishops/Pastors, it's contrary to biblical teaching, it's that simple

1 Timothy 3:1-2KJV
1 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

 

[jas3]

Some individuals today are voicing concerns about Bishop Budde due to her position as a female pastor while showing no objections to Pastor Paula White.

Considering most people, including myself, have never heard of Paula White, it probably has to do more with who's in the news than anything else.

 

[QvQ]

44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.”

She didn't borrow money to pay the tithe
BTW, have you ever done that, given away everything you owned? I have.

The US is verging on bankruptcy. The service on the debt is $881 Billion dollars.
The widow in this case would have given her all and then still had a bill to pay of $40,500.

Yes, there are blessings for the US being the largest charity organization in the world. However it is an involuntary tithe and borrowed money.

 

[okay]

There are already threads debating female clergy. Do we really need to turn this into another such thread?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Women can't be Bishops/Pastors it's contrary to biblical teaching

A Bishop/Pastor "Must" be the husband of one wife, a man, (Mariann Budde) (Paula White) nor any other woman qualifies

1 Timothy 3:1-2KJV
1 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

I agree with you 100%. I am a fundamental Baptist who does not believe that the Bible approves of female pastors. (See my post #7).

Is the objection against Bishop Budda about her gender or her message? If it's about her gender, why wasn't there an objection before she gave the sermon? She likely wasn't a last-minute addition to the program. President Trump's team knew who would speak at the service.

If gender is the issue, why do conservatives not speak out against Pastor Paula White, who is President Trump's spiritual advisor and a strong supporter?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Marianne Budde is a liberal political activist dressed up in a religious costume

What part of her sermon is against Biblical principle? Her sermon was about requesting the President of the United States to extend compassion to the impoverished, the destitute, and the ill. What part of this message you find objectionable?

 

[Michie]

Those circus hate Trump media rounds are coming to an end

CNN just moved Trump nemesis "Jim Acosta" to the 12:00-2:00am time slot a few days ago and he resigned on air yesterday

Whoopie Goldberg and (The Five) will be on the Ole chopping block next

The Hate Trump media is on exit stage left, and it's moving fast

The View is insufferable.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

She didn't borrow money to pay the tithe
BTW, have you ever done that, given away everything you owned? I have.

The US is verging on bankruptcy. The service on the debt is $881 Billion dollars.
The widow in this case would have given her all and then still had a bill to pay of $40,500.

Yes, there are blessings for the US being the largest charity organization in the world. However it is an involuntary tithe and borrowed money.

So your suggestion is follow Jesus teaching of giving when you have, all the have-nots can ignore Jesus teaching of giving. Don’t you think it is very convenient?

 

[QvQ]

So your suggestion is follow Jesus teaching of giving when you have, all the have-nots can ignore Jesus teaching of giving. Don’t you think it is very convenient?

A have-not, by definition, has nothing to give.
Have you ever given away everything you owned to the poor?

 

[Michie]

The Have Nots do not have it to give
Or have you given all you have to the poor and know the answer to that?
Have you actually done that? It is one thing to say a person should give everything to the poor.
Very few I ever met have ever done that
But the ones who have never given the last dime and went out to sit on the street in sack clothe and ashes are really quick to tell other people what other should do for the poor.

They want big government to do it.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Considering most people, including myself, have never heard of Paula White, it probably has to do more with who's in the news than anything else.

If the criticism pertains to female priesthood, homosexuality, or transgender issues, then it is not specifically about Bishop Budde but rather about the entire Episcopal Church. I disagree with the Episcopalian church on these issues. Few may recall that Gene Robinson became the first gay bishop in 2003.

 

[seeking.IAM]

A standing committee of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has expressed its support for Episcopal Church Bishop Mariann Budde

A more important question is why aren't other churches supporting a call for mercy in keeping with the Sermon on the Mount?

 

[Michie]

A more important question is why aren't other churches supporting a call for mercy in keeping with the Sermon on the Mount?

I think many do in the proper context of what the Sermon on the Mount conveys. Her sermon was political activism and I will not compare anything she said with the Sermon on the Mount.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

A have-not, by definition, has nothing to give.
Have you ever given away everything you owned to the poor?

Whether I give everything to the poor or not does not alter the Word of God. The most reassuring aspect of the Bible and its teachings is that the Word of God remains unchanged regardless of whether people choose to follow it. Therefore, I am uncertain as to why you inquire about whether I follow the Word of God. It appears you want attack me for not following the teachings of the Word of God because you cannot refute the teachings of Jesus.

The teaching of Jesus and Bible is simple; "Provide food for the hungry, water for the thirsty, shelter for strangers, clothing for those without, care for the sick, and visit those in prison. Assist widows, ensure justice for the weak and fatherless".

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I think many do in the proper context of what the Sermon on the amount conveys. Her sermon was political activism and I will not compare anything she said with the Sermon on the Mount.

What pert of her sermon was political activism?

 

[Michie]

The Bishop herself asked how it could not be political in her many interviews. When will she start dressing down her party for all the wrongs they have committed? She won’t because she agrees with ideology.

Bishop’s Sermon Ignites Web Debates - The Living Church

Bishop Mariann Budde: “I wanted to emphasize respect, honor, and dignity of every human being. Unity requires mercy and compassion. Many people are really scared.”

livingchurch.org

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

The Bishop herself asked how it could not be political in her many interviews. When will she start dressing down her party for all the wrongs they have committed? She won’t because she agrees with ideology.

Bishop’s Sermon Ignites Web Debates - The Living Church

Bishop Mariann Budde: “I wanted to emphasize respect, honor, and dignity of every human being. Unity requires mercy and compassion. Many people are really scared.”

livingchurch.org

It is noteworthy that a party advocating for religious freedom opposes a pastor preaching the gospel. They seek to condemn her in Congress.

I assume only gospel todays’ republican want to preach is “ Gospel according to Saint Trump”

 

[RileyG]

There are many expressions of Christianity, all leading people to Christ. There is much that is good about the Episcopal Church.
I knew a little girl who grew up Catholic, now in her thirties, who became an Episcopal priest. I had lost touch with them when I moved to another state, but learned about this through social media contacts. I know her. I know her family. I strongly believe she leads people to Christ who would never set foot in an evangelical Church because God speaks to their hearts and souls in a different way.

I respect the right of your denomination to establish rules for your denomination using whatever rationale they choose to use.
I respect the Episcopal and other churches' right to do the same

THIS.

I am not Episcopalian, so I won't tell the Episcopal Church what to do.