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[roman2819]

Not in the slightest. Just because a man goes around looking at fossils, does not mean he is more qualified then anyone else is. If he started as a regular physician, a doctor, then he is not more qualified then an archaeologist, or paleontologist, or a biologist in talking about evolution. What you are doing is committing the fallacy of appealing to authority.

You are implying that someone who teach mathematics for 20 years is not qualified to teach a 7-year-old at junior school.

If Dr Werner is not qualified after 30 years of study evolution and examining fossils, then most people here would not be qualified to even comment on evolution, given their laymen level of knowledge in evolution. Being a layman myself, I read about evolution but cannot say I know much -- and I believe that many in this forum are similar. How do you understand deep technical stuff, how do you discern correct information from wrong ones if you are not a professional? At best, we can only rely on the views of people that have delved into evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

Right above, you posted that you believe the earth has been in existence for less than 10,000 years. That's a young earth. You also clearly believe God created the earth. That's creationism.

Unless you're trolling, that's pretty straightforward.

Okay.

Suit yourself.

You have no idea what I believe.

And you're not trying.

Have a happy new year!

 

[roman2819]

Did you read the articles I linked for you?

I vet through them quickly, and i have to add that I don't understand the technicalities of the methods, and I don't pretend to understand. And there are also limitations in any scientific methods or instruments. Being a layman myself, I read about evolution but cannot say I know much -- and I believe that many in this forum are similar. How do you understand deep technical stuff, how do you discern correct information from wrong ones. At best, we can only rely on the views of people that have delved into evolution, such as Dr Carl Werner.

 

[River Jordan]

If Dr Werner is not qualified after 30 years of study evolution and examining fossils, then most people here would not be qualified to even comment on evolution, given their laymen level of knowledge in evolution. Being a layman myself, I read about evolution but cannot say I know much -- and I believe that many in this forum are similar. How do you understand deep technical stuff, how do you discern correct information from wrong ones. At best, we can only rely on the views of people that have delved into evolution.

If you value expertise and time spent on a subject, why are you so focused on Werner's views rather than those of the community of evolutionary biologists?

Shouldn't their collective views and conclusions be even more persuasive to you?

 

[River Jordan]

Okay.

Suit yourself.

You have no idea what I believe.

And you're not trying.

Have a happy new year!

You know, it's kind of a jerk move to chastise people for misunderstanding you while also refusing to explain yourself and clarify. That makes the misunderstandings your own fault.

 

[roman2819]

Because you say so?

You asked for specific evidence, then refused to acknowledge it.

Ask yourself, would you have actually accepted the evidence what ever it looked like?

There are no comments or captions on the photographs , so what do you think they are?

 

[River Jordan]

I vet through them quickly, and i have to add that I don't understand the technicalities of the methods, and I don't pretend to understand.

That's fine and understandable. The key is for us to be humble when it comes to subjects we don't know much about or understand.

And there are also limitations in any scientific methods or instruments.

Yes, that's certainly true.

Being a layman myself, I read about evolution but cannot say I know much -- and I believe that many in this forum are similar. How do you understand deep technical stuff, how do you discern correct information from wrong ones. At best, we can only rely on the views of people that have delved into evolution, such as Dr Carl Werner.

Actually I've been a professional biologist for around 10 years now.

 

[roman2819]

Are you arguing that since one fossil was faked about 100 years ago, all fossils are therefore fake? If not, what is your point in bringing up Piltdown Man?

Look at more videos from thegrandexperiment.com and learn how information are manipulated to hide the truth. And it is not only in education or evolution.

 

[Joseph G]

Are you arguing that since one fossil was faked about 100 years ago, all fossils are therefore fake? If not, what is your point in bringing up Piltdown Man?

How easily "experts" fool themselves - whether by fakes or interpreting into any specimens imaginative notions that just aren't there.

 

[River Jordan]

Look at more videos from thegrandexperiment.com and learn how information are manipulated to hide the truth. And it is not only in education or evolution.

I still don't understand your point. Is it that since one fossil was faked 100 years ago, they all are fake?

 

[River Jordan]

How easily "experts" fool themselves - whether by fakes or interpreting into any specimens imaginative notions that just aren't there.

That's too vague to reply to.

 

[Shemjaza]

There are no comments or captions on the photographs , so what do you think they are?

I'd assume they are extinct examples of the families of snakes and turtles... these are things that have been studied for decades. These specific ones, I don't know... you could have asked for a reference, and then they could have looked it up for you, but you made the accusation of them being fake.

 

[roman2819]

If you value expertise and time spent on a subject, why are you so focused on Werner's views rather than those of the community of evolutionary biologists?

Shouldn't their collective views and conclusions be even more persuasive to you?

Why do you assume the people in the community know much about evolution? They are probably just laymen who read about evolution but do not know the deep technicalities. Hence i say at best, laymen can only choose to believe in those that have delved a great deal into evolution.

 

[Shemjaza]

How easily "experts" fool themselves - whether by fakes or interpreting into any specimens imaginative notions that just aren't there.

I don't believe that you hold any other attitude, opinion, belief or system to the same ridiculous standard you hold biology and geology.

 

[roman2819]

Because you say so?

You asked for specific evidence, then refused to acknowledge it.

Ask yourself, would you have actually accepted the evidence what ever it looked like?

Why don't you look up a few videos in the grandexperiment.com and discern if they are more credible?

 

[River Jordan]

Why do you assume the people in the community know much about evolution?

For the same reason we assume mechanics know about car repair, basketball coaches know about basketball, etc. It's their profession.

They are probably just laymen who read about evolution but do not know the deep technicalities. Hence i say at best, laymen can only choose to believe in those that have delved a great deal into evolution.

I think you may have misunderstood. I was talking about professional evolutionary biologists and asking why you don't value their opinions and conclusions but you do value Werner's.

 

[NxNW]

Science has never confirm evolution is true or correct, it is just a theory.

What's the difference between a theory and a hypothesis?

Although science says creation is a theory too, however, the hundreds of thousands -- even millions -- of lifeforms are impossible to happen without a designer, and this is obvious proof.

The vast majority species are extinct. Sounds like they were poorly designed.

However, many people want to believe in bits and pieces of evolution that has no credible proof or evidence.

Plenty of evidence that was predicted in advance and then found.

 

[AV1611VET]

Plenty of evidence that was predicted in advance and then found.

After how many tries?

 

[roman2819]

The vast majority species are extinct. Sounds like they were poorly designed.

Dr Werner commented about this in the video. Might be worthwhile to see what he said and decide for yourself.

 

[Shemjaza]

Why don't you look up a few videos in the grandexperiment.com and discern if they are more credible?

That URL doesn't work.

If the arguments and evidence are credible, why don't you present some?