God's beautiful creation

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Even technical or sophisticated instruments have their limitations. I don't pretend to understand them, but I will go back to what I said earlier:

If Dr Weber spent 30 years studying evolution and examining fossils in person, and conclude that he doesn't believe in evolution, then he must have a very valid point.

I know about a specialist doctor named Weber (or something like that); his interest in evolution runs deep. His education and vocation laid a good foundation for him to study evolution, he spent 30 years examining fossils in three continents (america, europe and australia). With his study of evolution and exploration, he was able to come up with a few salient questions to see if evolution is valid. One was to see if there is any change in measurement of skulls of fossils, be it amphibians or fish. He found there is no change for different species. Evolutionists claim dinosaur' fossils are very very very old but near their bones, Dr Weber found certain floral fossils which were much younger -- which means dinosaurs and floral species exist together, thus contradicting what the evolutionists claimed.

Who is this 'Dr Weber'? Because all I see is you making claims without any shred of evidence to back them up.

And also, I do not understand how the measurement of skulls of fossils not changing refutes evolution in the slightest.

 

[roman2819]

Who is this 'Dr Weber'? Because all I see is you making claims without any shred of evidence to back them up.

And also, I do not understand how the measurement of skulls of fossils not changing refutes evolution in the slightest.

Start with the 10-13th min of the video, where Dr Werner discovered animals and fauna buried together with fossils of dinosaurs. And these animal/fauna are the same as today, meaning there are no change from dinosaur time, which evolutions claimed was millions or billions years ago. See the entire video of course to see Dr Carl Werner who studied and explore fossils for 30 years.

Evolution teaches that life changed over time. Living fossils are fossils of animals and plants that look just like the animals and plants living today, seemingly contradicting the idea of evolution and change. Dr. Werner and his wife photographed living fossils at dinosaur dig sites from all of the major animal phyla living today and all of the major plant divisions living today. His photographic essay challenges the idea that animals and plants changed over time. For more information visit TheGrandExperiment.com

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Start with the 10-13th min of the video, where Dr Werner discovered animals and fauna buried together with fossils of dinosaurs. And these animal/fauna are the same as today, meaning there are no change from dinosaur time, which evolutions claimed was millions or billions years ago. See the entire video of course to see Dr Carl Werner who studied and explore fossils for 30 years.

Evolution teaches that life changed over time. Living fossils are fossils of animals and plants that look just like the animals and plants living today, seemingly contradicting the idea of evolution and change. Dr. Werner and his wife photographed living fossils at dinosaur dig sites from all of the major animal phyla living today and all of the major plant divisions living today. His photographic essay challenges the idea that animals and plants dchanged over time. For more information visit TheGrandExperiment.com

So we go from Weber to Werner now. Interesting....

Living fossils does not contradict evolution at all. In fact, it's expected that if an animal finds their perfect niche to live in, they will not change. Sharks, snakes, turtles, tortoises, etc, have not changed since their earliest ancestors since they're brilliantly well adapted for their environmental niches to live, but these animals will not be the same as their ancestors species. Even the modern day coelocanth are not the same animals as the ones found in the fossil records.

I'm afraid that you're being duped here.

 

[Juvenal]

Start with the 10-13th min of the video, where Dr Werner discovered animals and fauna buried together with fossils of dinosaurs. And these animal/fauna are the same as today, meaning there are no change from dinosaur time, which evolutions claimed was millions or billions years ago. See the entire video of course to see Dr Carl Werner who studied and explore fossils for 30 years.

Evolution teaches that life changed over time. Living fossils are fossils of animals and plants that look just like the animals and plants living today, seemingly contradicting the idea of evolution and change. Dr. Werner and his wife photographed living fossils at dinosaur dig sites from all of the major animal phyla living today and all of the major plant divisions living today. His photographic essay challenges the idea that animals and plants changed over time. For more information visit TheGrandExperiment.com

"Living fossils" represent organisms from the same genera but never the same species as modern organisms. In this video, Werner claims to have seen fossils co-extant with dinosaurs from the same phyla as modern animals, a classification many times removed from even the same genera, let alone the same species. And while he claims they "look the same" as modern organisms, and that his wife took 60,000 photos to document this, the only photo shown is of his wife taking a photo.

 

[roman2819]

Sharks, snakes, turtles, tortoises, etc, have not changed since their earliest ancestors since they're brilliantly well adapted for their environmental niches to live, but these animals will not be the same as their ancestors species.

So have anyone found the fossils of ancestral species of sharks, snakes, turtles, tortises? Or other ancestral species of other animals who adapted and changed over eons of time until their present form? Evolutionists always claim they exist, but so far they have nothing substantiate their theory.

 

[roman2819]

In this video, Werner claims to have seen fossils co-extant with dinosaurs from the same phyla as modern animals, a classification many times removed from even the same genera, let alone the same species.

Would be interested to hear more about your claim. Can you explain, preferably with some sources?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So have anyone found the fossils of ancestral species of sharks, snakes, turtles, tortises?

... Yes!

Scapanorhynchus lewisii

Hibernophis breithaupti

Achelon

Megalochelys

Did you think they just make the animals up or something?

 

[roman2819]

... Yes!
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Scapanorhynchus lewisii

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Hibernophis breithaupti

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Achelon

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Megalochelys

Did you think they just make the animals up or something?

Some photos look fake especially the last 2.

These photos show some lifeforms . But where is the proof that they show evolution?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Some photos look fake especially the last 2.

These photos show some lifeforms . But where is the proof that they show evolution?

Wow... Just wow.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Start with the 10-13th min of the video, where Dr Werner discovered animals and fauna buried together with fossils of dinosaurs. And these animal/fauna are the same as today, meaning there are no change from dinosaur time, which evolutions claimed was millions or billions years ago. See the entire video of course to see Dr Carl Werner who studied and explore fossils for 30 years.

Evolution teaches that life changed over time. Living fossils are fossils of animals and plants that look just like the animals and plants living today, seemingly contradicting the idea of evolution and change. Dr. Werner and his wife photographed living fossils at dinosaur dig sites from all of the major animal phyla living today and all of the major plant divisions living today. His photographic essay challenges the idea that animals and plants changed over time. For more information visit TheGrandExperiment.com

Oh, good grief, Werner is a family physician affiliated with a creationist minstry. He is no scienctist.

 

[roman2819]

Oh, good grief, Werner is a family physician affiliated with a creationist minstry. He is no scienctist.

He is a qualified specialist doctor. With 30 years of studying evolution and exploring fossils, his research should be credible (unlike many others who speak of evolution in bits and pieces have no in-depth study in this area) . And speaking of scientist, science has never confirm evolution is true or correct, it is just a theory. Although science says creation is a theory too, however the multitudes of lifeforms in their hundreds of thousand -- even millions -- are impossible to happen all by themselves without a designer. This is simple truth, even people don't choose to ignore what they can see and try to be callous against God.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

He is a qualified doctor. With 30 years of studying evolution and exploring fossils, his research should be credible (unlike many others who speak of evolution in bits and pieces have no in-depth study in this area) . And speaking of scientist, science has never confirm evolution is true or correct, it is just a theory. Although science says creation is a theory too, however the multitudes of lifeforms in their hundreds of thousand -- even millions -- are impossible to happen all by themselves without a designer. This is simple truth, even people do not choose to be callous against God.

A theory in science is an explanation of facts. It's the highest form of explanation for something in science. Germ theory and nuclear theory aren't 'just a theory'.

 

[roman2819]

Wow... Just wow.

Is that all you can say? Seriously, many of us here only read somethings about evolution and are just speaking in bits and pieces with no in-depth knowledge. So we should rely on people who are specialists in this area, such as Carl Werner. If you know about credible evidence from evolutionists, do share it.

Science has never confirm evolution is true or correct, it is just a theory. Although science says creation is a theory too, however, the hundreds of thousands -- even millions -- of lifeforms are impossible to happen without a designer, and this is obvious proof. However, many people want to believe in bits and pieces of evolution that has no credible proof or evidence.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Is that all you can say? Seriously, many of us here only read somethings about evolution and are just speaking in bits of pieces with no in-depth knowledge. At best, we can only rely on people who are are specialists in this area, such as Carl Werner. If you know about credible evidence from evolutionists, do share it.

Science has never confirm evolution is true or correct, it is just a theory. Although science says creation is a theory too, however, the hundreds of thousand -- even millions -- of lifeforms are impossible to happen without a designer, it is obvious proof. However, many people want to believe in bits and pieces of evolution that has no credible proof or evidence.

But you've obviously not made the actual effort to learn, that much is clear to me and anyone who can read.

And again: A theory in science is an explanation of facts. It's the highest form of explanation for something in science. Germ theory and nuclear theory aren't 'just a theory'. Creation isn't a theory by any stretch of the imagination, it's a religious belief, not anything scientific.

 

[roman2819]

A theory in science is an explanation of facts. It's the highest form of explanation for something in science. Germ theory and nuclear theory aren't 'just a theory'.

Some theories did go on to be established as truths when more substantial evidence come along, but the theory of evolution is not one of them - far from it.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Some theories did go on to be established as truths when more substantial evidence come along, but the theory of evolution is not one of them - far from it.

That is 100% wrong on every level. If it did, it wouldn't be called the theory of evolution.

The more you talk, the more it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Hans Blaster]

He is a qualified specialist doctor. With 30 years of studying evolution and exploring fossils, his research should be credible (unlike many others who speak of evolution in bits and pieces have no in-depth study in this area) . And speaking of scientist, science has never confirm evolution is true or correct, it is just a theory. Although science says creation is a theory too, however the multitudes of lifeforms in their hundreds of thousand -- even millions -- are impossible to happen all by themselves without a designer. This is simple truth, even people don't choose to ignore what they can see and try to be callous against God.

What exactly is his training in science, paleontology, geology, dating methods, etc.?

 

[roman2819]

That is 100% wrong on every level. If it did, it wouldn't be called the theory of evolution.

The more you talk, the more it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.

If you have some in-depth knowledge of evolution, then do share it. But so far all you didn't.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If you have some in-depth knowledge of evolution, then do share it. But so far all you didn't.

Because you've ignored what I've said.

 

[roman2819]

What exactly is his training in science, paleontology, geology, dating methods, etc.?

Whether he has or not, I don't know., but you can't deny that with 30 years of exploring and studying fossils carry plenty of weight, Dr Werner's opinions do carry weight. If we are laymen or even less in the theory of evolution, then it make sense to consider his opinions seriously.