Woman who preaches in Church

[Clare73]

I repented. Be blessed.

Not buyin' it. . .

 

[Jermayn]

I am absolutely certain Jesus Christ of Nazareth would not want us to squabble about women who spread the Gospel. I'm so over it! Blessings to all as we enter 2025!

Maria,
The argument isn't over women spreading the Gospel. It's women becoming overseer's and deacons. All Christians have been commanded to spread the Gospel regardless of sex. That doesn't translate to becoming an overseer (pastor) or deacon of a church.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I have great respect for this female Christian writer. I believe she preach the Gospel to all who would dare to listen.
"A Christian' s secret of a happy life"
by Hannah Smith

 

[Clare73]

I have great respect for this female Christian writer. I believe she preach the Gospel to all who would dare to listen.
"A Christian' s secret to a happy life"
by Hannah Smith

A woman being a pastor (whose teaching is to be authoritative to the assembly) is what is forbidden, and the Biblical principle on which it is based is stated.
It is not forbidden for a woman to teach otherwise, because her teaching otherwise is not authoritative.
It is not for you, nor anyone else, to overturn apostolic teaching (1 Tim 2:12-14) authoritative to the church.

 

[RileyG]

All those of saving faith in Jesus Christ are the church (Eph 5:30-32), and are home in the body of Christ.

I actually didn’t post that.

I think what he meant was the thousand upon thousands of different Protestant sects and how differ in theology etc

 

[Strong in Him]

1) Please explain how a woman is supposed to be a husband? One WIFE?
2) Since we see some single men with no children leading the church in the Bible, we know the emphasis is on men who maintaining sexual purity and having strong leadership ability. Can women have that? Of course. That doesn't change the fact that God has reserved the role of pastor and deacon for only men who possess those qualities.

It is inconsistent to say "these verses say that an elder must be the husband of one wife, therefore the elder must be a man", and also say, "these verses say that an elder must be able to manage his children - but that's ok because some OT leaders didn't have children."
We also see at least one OT leader who was a woman - Deborah. Therefore gender has noting to do with this.

 

[Strong in Him]

Maria,
The argument isn't over women spreading the Gospel. It's women becoming overseer's and deacons.

No, it's not.
The title of this thread is "woman who preaches in church". A person does not have to be ordained to be able to preach. Many denominations have lay preachers; I am female and a lay preacher.
Women preached the Gospel in Jesus' day and in the early church.

 

[Clare73]

Have you noticed that after Jesus rose from the dead He **appeared first to Mary** and He had her tell the disciples that He was risen?

John and Peter came to the tomb **before** Jesus appeared first to Mary. He could have appeared to them first, but He did not appear to them but to Mary after they had left.

And He told her to tell the disciples that He had risen and she had seen Him, and He had a message to pass on to them . . . for **her** to pass on.

So, if a woman has something to say to me, I listen.

Have you noticed you equate the reporting of events with teaching the word of God?

 

[PloverWing]

I stated that by the time trans people are in the pulpit, Jesus is an afterthought. Allowing women to pastor is the beginning to the slippery slope to that point.

My objection remains. Christians can disagree with you on this and many other points and still be genuinely intending to follow Jesus. You can say that they are mistaken, but it is incorrect to say that Jesus is an afterthought to them.

 

[Clare73]

I actually didn’t post that.

I think what he meant was the thousand upon thousands of different Protestant sects and how differ in theology etc

My apologies. . .

 

[Clare73]

To be expected. Protestantism started their free for all 500 years ago, and then the American variety said "hold my beer" 200 years ago and just does whatever on a church by church basis. There's a solution for that. Come home.

All those of saving faith in Jesus Christ are the church (Eph 5:30-32), and are home in the body of Christ.

 

[CoreyD]

If you're not flaming or goading, I don't see how.
I was asking why GOD didn't do something about it?

Let me answer it this way then.
God has his time to act against the things that are not his. Many, many, many, churches do not belong to God, and his Christ. Matthew 7:2123 does not apply to individuals, but groups - lots of groups.
When the harvest comes, the reaping will begin. Matthew 13:30
That is when God acts against what he sees as tares.
Does that help?

 

[Jermayn]

It is inconsistent to say "these verses say that an elder must be the husband of one wife, therefore the elder must be a man", and also say, "these verses say that an elder must be able to manage his children - but that's ok because some OT leaders didn't have children."
We also see at least one OT leader who was a woman - Deborah. Therefore gender has noting to do with this.

I will engage with you further when you explain how a woman can be a husband.

 

[Jermayn]

My objection remains. Christians can disagree with you on this and many other points and still be genuinely intending to follow Jesus. You can say that they are mistaken, but it is incorrect to say that Jesus is an afterthought to them.

I can link you to plenty of services from these churches to prove my point.

 

[Strong in Him]

Let me answer it this way then.
God has his time to act against the things that are not his. Many, many, many, churches do not belong to God, and his Christ. Matthew 7:2123 does not apply to individuals, but groups - lots of groups.
When the harvest comes, the reaping will begin. Matthew 13:30
That is when God acts against what he sees as tares.
Does that help?

No.
That's the standard answer always given to this question - "God allows sin to continue" (usually because we're in the last days) - "they'll be punished one day."

Do you think God will punish women for preaching the Gospel? For visiting people? Baptising? Taking funerals, weddings and services of Holy Communion?
Is it a sin to teach about Jesus, to encourage, to preach, to help others in their faith?
In Psalm 138:2 it says that God has exalted his name above his word. God's name is extremely important - taking it in vain is punishable in the 10 commandments. If a woman stands up and says "GOD called me to do this; I am serving him", and she is lying and dishonouring his name, the Holy Spirit can convict and rebuke her immediately. The Spirit is transforming all Christians into Jesus' image and likeness -when does he say, about any sin, "you'll be punished on the day of judgement"?

 

[Strong in Him]

Have you noticed you equate the reporting of events with teaching the word of God?

She was proclaiming the Good News. She was a witness to the resurrection.
Women were not allowed to be witnesses - God chose a woman to be one.

 

[RileyG]

My apologies. . .

No need to apologize! You’re good!

Take care

 

[jas3]

Do you think God will punish women for preaching the Gospel? For visiting people? Baptising? Taking funerals, weddings and services of Holy Communion?
...The Spirit is transforming all Christians into Jesus' image and likeness -when does he say, about any sin, "you'll be punished on the day of judgement"?

"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matt. 7:22-23)

 

[Jermayn]

No, it's not.
The title of this thread is "woman who preaches in church". A person does not have to be ordained to be able to preach. Many denominations have lay preachers; I am female and a lay preacher.
Women preached the Gospel in Jesus' day and in the early church.

When someone says "I am a preacher", most people are going to think you're stating you pastor a church. Regardless, if you are teaching the men in your church, you are ignoring this particular part of the Bible.

 

[Clare73]

When someone says "I am a preacher", most people are going to think you're stating you pastor a church. Regardless, if you are teaching the men in your church, you are ignoring this particular part of the Bible.

However, Christian women are not forbidden to teach men apart from the assembly, where they have no spiritual authority.
They are forbidden to teach men only from the pulpit, which is authoritative, for they are to have no authority over men in marriage nor in the assembly. . .which does not preclude a partnership in marriage, leaving the final authority to the husband.