Geocentric or Heliocentric (what shape is the earth) ?

[Apple Sky]

Did you even read what I said?

Yes you said, ' The National Aeronautics and Space Administration." (Incidentally, these are capital letters and there are no capital letters in Hebrew.)

So I posted an image of their logo which is a fork tongue of a viper which most wouldn't even notice unless it's pointed out to them.

 

[Zceptre]

The enemy couldn't care less what shape the earth is - only that we discuss it and not God.

I think you speaking on behalf of Satan is a mistake, unless you are in communication with him.

Did God tell you this or did you just think it up on your own?

To be fair, I think you greatly underestimate the depth of deception in your world.

Are you saying that any Christian who believes this, or who works for NASA, is against God and for Satan?

Please do not put words in my mouth and stretch my statements into mass accusations.

Being deceived by someone does not make you a liar by default.

I have faith in Jesus Christ - I don't know why you felt the need to put it in inverted commas.

What does this have to do with anything?

The nature of such a comment is pointless. It was emphasis.

You did the exact same thing making the word bold...

Are you searching for things to question me about?

Are you trying to communicate or interrogate? lol

It's not a matter of either/or. We can trust what the experts tell us as well as trusting in Jesus.

Well there we go, you have caught no one in a lie and therefore you still trust them.

I do not trust people I have caught in a lie and I have definitely caught them plenty.

Just because you have not found them out does not make them trustworthy.

Please do not demand I do homework for others and supply you with all of their many lies that are easily found and exposed already.

I'm not responding to you for you to provide me a work order per your request.

This post alone was, honestly, a bit much considering you are defending these people who are lying to everyone.

I don't really have warm fuzzy feelings about prolific lies.

Our brothers and sisters have already done the hard work of exposing them.

The evidence is laying around everywhere in great abundance.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes you said, ' The National Aeronautics and Space Administration." (Incidentally, these are capital letters and there are no capital letters in Hebrew.)

So I posted an image of their logo which is a fork tongue of a viper which most wouldn't even notice unless it's pointed out to them.

Big deal.

It doesn't alter the facts that:
i) the word NASA is made of capital letters - the first letters of the words; National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
There are NO capital letters in Hebrew.
ii) Look in Google Translate, type "deceive" in English and ask for the Hebrew translation. That word is not nasa.
iii) this is all nonsense.

 

[Zceptre]

i) the word NASA is made of capital letters - the first letters of the words; National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
There are NO capital letters in Hebrew.

That is a bit silly.

iii) this is all nonsense.

Then why include oneself?

It begs the question...

 

[Strong in Him]

I think you speaking on behalf of Satan is a mistake, unless you are in communication with him.

I am not speaking on behalf of Satan, nor am I in communication with him.

The devil is the enemy of God - that should be obvious to anyone who reads the Bible.
Lucifer was thrown out of heaven because he opposed God. Jesus resisted the devil in the wilderness, Luke 4:1-13, drove out demons, Mark 1:14, and said that Satan was a liar and a murderer, John 8:44. He taught us to pray, "deliver us from evil", Matthew 6:13 Paul speaks of spiritual warfare and says that our battle is not against flesh and blood but against the evil one, Ephesians 6.
Satan was defeated on the cross. Because Jesus died - offered his life as a ransom, Mark 10:35, and a sacrifice for many, Matthew 26:28 - people can be forgiven, reconciled to God and need not go to hell. Satan cannot win and will not win in the end; see Revelation.
THIS is the Gospel. THIS is what the devil doesn't want people to hear and know - because if they do then they'll go to be with God instead of spending eternity with Satan. And this has nothing whatsoever to do with the shape of the earth.

Did God tell you this or did you just think it up on your own?

God has told us this in the Bible - check out the Scriptures.

Please do not put words in my mouth and stretch my statements into mass accusations.

I was asking you a question; note the question mark.
You said, "they are absolutely against God and for Satan." We had been talking about NASA so I wanted you to clarify what you were saying, and who "they" were.

What does this have to do with anything?

The nature of such a comment is pointless. It was emphasis.

I didn't know that's what you meant by it.
That's not a normal use of inverted commas. They are most often used when quoting someone else's words, but sometimes also ironically when a word doesn't mean what someone has said that it means. So people talk about being Christians when, in fact, they are churchgoers and/or do good works but don't actually believe the Gospel. Other believers might say that we have a lot of "Christians" in this country. I would say the UK is a "Christian" country - meaning that Christianity is the main religion and the C of E is the established church. But I suspect the number of true, born-again believers is much smaller.

Well there we go, you have caught no one in a lie and therefore you still trust them.

I have no reason to disbelieve well-trained and knowledgeable experts.
And this doesn't mean I trust IN them to the exclusion of Jesus.

Please do not demand I do homework for others and supply you with all of their many lies that are easily found and exposed already.

I wasn't demanding anything.
But, fine. Just don't expect me/us to waste valuable time looking into all of NASA's statements and researching to see whether or not they are true.
If you want me to believe that NASA are liars; you prove it. If anyone took you to court for libel, you'd have to have, and produce, evidence.

I'm not responding to you for you to provide me a work order per your request.

I didn't request that you provide anything.
But I'm not going to engage with you, either, if you make a statement and can't even prove it. And especially not if you accuse me of communicating with Satan.

You believe what you want to believe.

 

[Strong in Him]

That is a bit silly.

No, it's a fact.
The capital letters - the first letter of each of those words - make the name NASA. This is not how it is in Hebrew, as Hebrew does not have capital letters.

Then why include oneself?

If you mean "why am I joining in with such nonsense?" Good question.
Partly because there may be people browsing these forums who think that all Christians believe this stuff. And partly because there are people who misquote Scripture, or take it out of context, to make it say what they want it to say.

 

[Apple Sky]

Big deal.

It doesn't alter the facts that:
i) the word NASA is made of capital letters - the first letters of the words; National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
There are NO capital letters in Hebrew.
ii) Look in Google Translate, type "deceive" in English and ask for the Hebrew translation. That word is not nasa.
iii) this is all nonsense.

The Hebrew verb "nasha" primarily means to deceive or lead someone astray, all's nasa has done is just drop the H, typical

 

[Phil G]

all's nasa has done is just drop the H, typical

And all you have to do is drop the a p and l from your CF name and you get “pesky”. What does that say?

 

[Zceptre]

Partly because there may be people browsing these forums who think that all Christians believe this stuff. And partly because there are people who misquote Scripture, or take it out of context, to make it say what they want it to say.

So you are on a mission you mean?

You are setting the record straight by defending Nasa?

And what does Nasa have to do with scripture? (aside from the supposed "coincidental" connection you think doesn't exist)

Do you guys just think there is no such thing as evil or do you just trust all these organizations like you do God?

 

[Zceptre]

This is all a bit telling honestly. lol

 

[Apple Sky]

And all you have to do is drop the a p and l from your CF name and you get “pesky”. What does that say?

Lol'z, what are you trying to say that I'm annoying ?

 

[Phil G]

Lol'z, what are you trying to say that I'm annoying ?

No, I’m just applying your logic to your name. What do you think of my work?

 

[Phil G]

The Hebrew verb "nasha" primarily means to deceive or lead someone astray, all's nasa has done is just drop the H, typical

For the record the pronunciation of the Hebrew verb is "naw-shaw", so it doesn't even sound like NASA when pronounced. And the original word doesn't use English letters either. It's Hebrew and uses Hebrew letters. So there is absolutely no relation between the acronym NASA and Hebrew word:

נָשָׁא​

H5377 - nāšā' - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (kjv)

H5377 - נָשָׁא nâshâʼ, naw-shaw'; a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:—beguile, deceive, greatly, utterly.

www.blueletterbible.org

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you guys just think there is no such thing as evil or do you just trust all these organizations like you do God?

I reckon they trust every organization on earth

 

[Apple Sky]

No, I’m just applying your logic to your name. What do you think of my work?

Rubbish

 

[Phil G]

Rubbish

Aw, I feel so let down!

 

[Apple Sky]

For the record the pronunciation of the Hebrew verb is "naw-shaw", so it doesn't even sound like NASA when pronounced. And the original word doesn't use English letters either. It's Hebrew and uses Hebrew letters. So there is absolutely no relation between the acronym NASA and Hebrew word:

נָשָׁא​

H5377 - nāšā' - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (kjv)

H5377 - נָשָׁא nâshâʼ, naw-shaw'; a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:—beguile, deceive, greatly, utterly.

www.blueletterbible.org

You just looked all this up didn't you ?

 

[Phil G]

I reckon they trust every organization on earth

I reckon you believe every conspiracy theory going

 

[Phil G]

You just looked all this up didn't you ?

Of course, same as you. I'm not a Hebrew speaker and, if memory serves, neither are you by your own admission.

 

[Apple Sky]

I reckon you believe every conspiracy theory going

Not quite, I don't believe that the Queen was a shape shifting lizard