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Trump's Warrior Board

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Woke isn't diversity. We have a diverse military because we have a diverse nation. People of all ethnicities are American and sign up to serve militarily.

Woke is DEI initiatives, promotion of military personnel based not on merit, but on skin color or gender and more.

This type of thing is antithetical to the military - if you want a military that's in the top fitness for any war.

@essentialsaltes - and any of the brass who is putting into practice initiatives that ultimately weaken our military and by extension our nation is not fit to lead the military personnel under him.
I agree 100% with this post!!!
 
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It's true. If an Army (any army) is not a meritocracy it will suffer and be unfit to defend and exert power.
This is absolutely 100% correct in my opinion.
 
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Woke isn't diversity. We have a diverse military because we have a diverse nation. People of all ethnicities are American and sign up to serve militarily.

Woke is DEI initiatives, promotion of military personnel based not on merit, but on skin color or gender and more.

This type of thing is antithetical to the military - if you want a military that's in the top fitness for any war.

@essentialsaltes - and any of the brass who is putting into practice initiatives that ultimately weaken our military and by extension our nation is not fit to lead the military personnel under him.
That should be based on evidence, and not putting 'woke' labels on people.

All of the Instructions and Directives at the Defense DEI office come from the first Trump era.

The Directive clearly states evaluation is merit-based.

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should be based on evidence, and not putting 'woke' labels on people.

I think that's kinda what an examination board of military personnel is for, to see if there's anything untoward going on.

If there's not, then no one has anything to concern themselves with.

When asked a hypothetical question Trump gave a reasoned answer, and also, as a different topic, announced an intention to examine the fitness of top brass, another reasonable event given a Presidents role as Commander in Chief.

There's no negatives.
 
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Trump is famous for insisting on personal loyalty.

This is not loyalty to the office of president, nor the constitution, but to him and interests personally.

I dont trust him on this. Trump will be Trump until we see evidence to the contrary,
 
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Trump is famous for insisting on personal loyalty.

This is not loyalty to the office of president, nor the constitution, but to him and interests personally.

I dont trust him on this. Trump will be Trump until we see evidence to the contrary,
I don't think it will be very long before even his supporters realize their deception. Of course none will admit it publicly.
 
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Trump is famous for insisting on personal loyalty.

This is not loyalty to the office of president, nor the constitution, but to him and interests personally.

I dont trust him on this. Trump will be Trump until we see evidence to the contrary,
On the other hand, President Trump did and still does have a significant majority of American Servicemembers who approve of his first term and he had strong majority support in polls amongst the soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, etc veterans as well as those still serving in our military.


 
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He said he was gonna.

Trump was asked by Fox News in June whether he would fire generals described as "woke," a term for those focused on racial and social justice but which is used by conservatives to disparage progressive policies.

"I would fire them. You can't have (a) woke military," Trump said.

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Obviously, there's already a process for removing people from command positions who disobey orders or leave the blast doors open on nuclear facilities. What Trump's creating is a hand-picked star chamber. We have every reason not to trust him.
Since wokism is a political ideology, then getting rid of it and a those that support it, is perfectly fine. Political.ideology shouldn't be foremost in the military. It weakens it. It does it. The military exactly what it does in the rest of society. It divides people along racial, sexual.and gender lines. The military requires unity, not division. It's a political move. It doesn't belong in rhe military.
 
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There's nothing historically unusual about this. But since it's Trump, it has to be about setting up a constitution breaking dictatorship. The media of course plans on cashing in big time on the paranoia it has generated.
 
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On the other hand, President Trump did and still does have a significant majority of American Servicemembers who approve of his first term and he had strong majority support in polls amongst the soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, etc veterans as well as those still serving in our military.
Their feelings are not facts.
 
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Since wokism is a political ideology, then getting rid of it and a those that support it, is perfectly fine.
That is not. Soldiers obey orders. Their personal politics are not part of the equation.

Any that won't obey orders, or not smartly enough, can be jettisoned for cause.
 
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I can tell people who have been in the military and those who have not. You obey the orders of your ranking officer. The President is the Commander in Chief. He is not asking for your opinions or making suggestions. He is the General's General. Do what he commands, or you will be out. If you cannot carry out his orders, leave before you get yourself in a position where you must be removed with possible charges.
 
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Since wokism is a political ideology, then getting rid of it and a those that support it, is perfectly fine. Political.ideology shouldn't be foremost in the military. It weakens it. It does it. The military exactly what it does in the rest of society. It divides people along racial, sexual.and gender lines. The military requires unity, not division. It's a political move. It doesn't belong in rhe military.
I agree... But wokism is more of a religion than a political ideology. It is not based on science or even political science. It is based on fantasy and pseudo-science, much like flat-earth science/religion. At least the alphabet people aspect is. So, worse than a policy based on political ideology is a policy based on a flat-earth religion. It is the tyranny of the woke. Trump has vowed to free the American people from this religious fanaticism.
 
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That is not. Soldiers obey orders. Their personal politics are not part of the equation.

Any that won't obey orders, or not smartly enough, can be jettisoned for cause.
Sure they obey orders. So leave political ideology out of their training. Don't divide the soldiers when they are trying to be unified. Thats what wokism does. The black, Hispanic, female, lgbt are not victims. They are soldiers. And soldiers have to be a cohesive unit and not looking at each other like the oppressed and oppressors.
 
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"Senior officers in the U.S. military are preparing after reports of a potential new review process for top generals, a review they fear will vet personal loyalty to President-elect Donald Trump.

On Tuesday, The Wall Street Journal reported on a draft executive order that is under consideration by the Trump transition team that would establish a so-called "warrior board," to review top generals over whether they should continue service or not, and whether they lack certain leadership qualities."


Members of the military swear an oath to the Constitution......(as does the President)
The opposite way was also tried. Trump supporters were the ones being "managed out" of the military. That sounds far worse than vetting who would actually be loyal to the Command-in-Chief.
 
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If officers in the military at the top levels of the armed forces do NOT fully support the constitutional lawful orders of the Commander in Chief, why should they remain at the top levels of command in the military?

It's a good thing that hasn't happened....or has it?
 
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Are y'all forgetting just how very effective Trump's foreign policy was in his first term? Do y'all understand that Trump has a much higher amount of support from the rank and file Servicemembers of the US military than did Biden or Harris? I know for a fact that the vast majority of Servicemembers are sick and tired of the woke agenda that was shoved down our throats by "top officers" who were obeying the progressive left wing ideology of Joe Biden and the leadership of the Democratic Party.

All of which is irrelevant.
Why is this proposed board even an idea?
 
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