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Man at Kamala rally thrown out and mocked for saying Jesus is Lord

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It seems like such an obvious slam dunk win response especially from a professed Baptist.
Just an Amen, or a "For ever and ever" and you'd not have a faux pas on your hands
Exactly. They were teenage kids. I think after watching a couple of videos it seems they called her a liar. When they were escorted out, I think they said Jesus is Lord. I posted them the the general politics section of this forum.
 
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True he wants loyalists but does any politician really appoint opposition in their cabinet?
But he is not going to be doing project 2025.
not that it can be done, it's so unconstitutional it's a pipe dream
Is it impossible if loyalists in high places back it up?
 
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No, this seems to be a Republican spin thing.
It looks to me like people can't discern God from the devil. The Spirit of Christ would not lead people to slander other people. It's wickedness to even want to believe bad things said about others.
 
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Most of the propaganda I see against Harris is just slanderous accusation.
Her view on abortion is pretty well documented, clearly not propaganda and absolutely inconsistent with anyone who claims to be a believer in Jesus Christ. God Bless You :)
 
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It's like people can't discern God from the devil. The Spirit of Christ would not lead people to slander other people. It's wickedness to even want to believe bad things said about others.
Agree.

Trump is always calling people names, and saying stuff like Kamala Harris was not born smart - which is basically racist. Or he says she is mentally impaired.

Funny that a supposedly mentally impaired woman wiped the floor with Trump at their debate.
 
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Is it impossible if loyalists in high places back it up?
yes, unless you have congress willing to vote themselves out of power and the supreme court willingly disbanding themselves to give the Executive branch supreme authority, Project 2025 has a snowball's chance in hell of being implemented. About all he could do is exchange sitting bureaucrats with new appointees which is in the President's constitutional power (however it has to be confirmed by the Senate, another check and balance) it's just generally not used because replacing experienced personnel with inexperienced new appointees is not politically expedient and would cause hiccups in how our government works while the new people catch up. If a vacancy in say the FBI or CIA opens up, the President can appoint people he wants but the senate has to confirm it and with the senate democrat controlled he would have to make compromises.

Our constitution is an elaborate system of checks and balances designed to institute deliberate government gridlock to make changes to federal policy be slow and gradual. It was afterall, written by a group of people who were wary of past abuse by executives with supreme authority.
 
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Her view on abortion is pretty well documented, clearly not propaganda and absolutely inconsistent with anyone who claims to be a believer in Jesus Christ. God Bless You :)
Her position is clearly articulated as ---> NOT for government being empowered to dictate whether a person can/should get an abortion or not. I don't see her peddling propaganda.

I don't believe Christianity has ever been about crafting laws to force women to carry their babies to term. I believe Christianity is about obtaining the Holy Spirit through faith in the Christ Jesus (God's Image whom God sent), and subsequently conforming to His Image through the power of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Her position is clearly articulated as ---> NOT for government being empowered to dictate whether a person can/should get an abortion or not. I don't see her peddling propaganda.

I don't believe Christianity has ever been about crafting laws to force women to carry their babies to term. I believe Christianity is about obtaining the Holy Spirit through faith in the Christ (God's Image whom God sent), and subsequently conforming to His Image through the power of the Holy Spirit.

Hello childeye. Thank you for your reply. Clearly then her position is at loggerheads with biblical morality. 'Crafting laws to force women to carry their babies to term' sounds like a euphemism for preventing cold-blooded murder of the most vulnerable.

God Bless You :)
 
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Hello childeye. Thank you for your reply. Clearly then her position is at loggerheads with biblical morality. 'Crafting laws to force women to carry their babies to term' sounds like a euphemism for preventing cold-blooded murder of the most vulnerable.

God Bless You
I intended no such euphemism. To be clear, The Holy Spirit instructs me to love others as I would want to be loved. In accordance, He does not instruct me to see a person who obtains an abortion as a cold-blooded murderer, but rather as a person who was motivated out of a form of fear. Therefore, when I see people who do see them as cold-blooded murderers, He also tempers my judgment by bringing to mind that we will be judged by what measure we use to judge others, and that the merciful will receive mercy.
 
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Trump and the Republican's drive to make immigrants "other" has created an hysteria regarding the border.
The US constitution clearly defines "Other" and the US has laws concerning lawful immigration, stand in line
IF they really cared about the border, they would have passed the bipartisan bill that wou have added agents and expanded the courts dealing with amnesty cases.
Kamala Harris had 3.5 years to let illegal immigrants in and she did a good job at setting new records
Making a group the "other" is a sign of authoritarianism.
As stated the US constitution defines "Other" and that's a person not born on US soil, pretty simple
 
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The Holy Spirit instructs me to love others as I would want to be loved. In accordance, He does not instruct me to see a person who obtains an abortion as a cold-blooded murderer, but rather as a person who was motivated out of a form of fear. If I were to think that the person was a cold-blooded killer. He also teaches me that we will be judged by what measure we use to judge others.
Wikipedia: The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]
 
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Wikipedia: The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]
God's law also recognizes the fetus as a legal victim.

Exodus 21:22, If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
 
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The US constitution clearly defines "Other" and the US has laws concerning lawful immigration, stand in line

Kamala Harris had 3.5 years to let illegal immigrants in and she did a good job at setting new records

As stated the US constitution defines "Other" and that's a person not born on US soil, pretty simple
"Other" is what people make it. Years ago, it was the Irish, or the Italians. The nineteenth century had signs that said "Help Wanted, No Irish need apply". They legally immigrated but were not wanted. Blacks were, and sometimes are, 'other'. Yet, many are desended from slaves that were in America before 1776.
Chinese were brought over in huge quantities to build the railroads, but otherwise were not wanted for a long time.


It is not just an issue of being not being "born on US soil". The "Okies" from Oklahoma were not wanted when they migrated in the 1930s during the Great Depression and the Dustbowl years..
 
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I intended no such euphemism. To be clear, The Holy Spirit instructs me to love others as I would want to be loved. In accordance, He does not instruct me to see a person who obtains an abortion as a cold-blooded murderer, but rather as a person who was motivated out of a form of fear. Wherefore He also teaches me that we will be judged by what measure we use to judge others, and the merciful will receive mercy.
Hello! Imho it's a clear case of protecting innocent lives. I'm not talking about how you personally relate to people who've had an abortion, I'm talking about it not being possible to kill the innocent in the first place. If someone was to rip a new born baby apart you perhaps wouldn't be so reticent, perhaps the obfuscation is because you see the unborn child as less human? God Bless :)
 
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Hello! Imho it's a clear case of protecting innocent lives.
I get that. That's why I've already said, "crafting laws to force women to carry their babies to term". Why? ---> To protect innocent lives. I understand your sentiments.

I'm not talking about how you personally relate to people who've had an abortion, I'm talking about it not being possible to kill the innocent in the first place.
This has been the recurring issue throughout recorded history. I also note that History shows that writing and trying to enforce laws intended to stop abortions has never made it impossible to get an abortion.

But this thread is about the defaming of Kamala Harris as mocking Christ because she supports the pro-choice protections on the federal level under Roe vs Wade, even though Trump currently supports the pro-choice positions on a state level.
If someone was to rip a new born baby apart you perhaps wouldn't be so reticent, perhaps the obfuscation is because you see the unborn child as less human? God Bless :)
While I agree that the argument can be made that there are degrees of human development, I do not see the unborn as less human in any stage of development. I must assume that because you asked me the question, you're probably unaware that I am pro-life because I believe that if a woman carries her child to term, she eventually will be glad that she didn't have an abortion.
 
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"Other" is what people make it. Years ago, it was the Irish, or the Italians. The nineteenth century had signs that said "Help Wanted, No Irish need apply". They legally immigrated but were not wanted. Blacks were, and sometimes are, 'other'. Yet, many are desended from slaves that were in America before 1776.
Chinese were brought over in huge quantities to build the railroads, but otherwise were not wanted for a long time.


It is not just an issue of being not being "born on US soil". The "Okies" from Oklahoma were not wanted when they migrated in the 1930s during the Great Depression and the Dustbowl years..
You have provided nothing that wasn't already known

"Other" in my definition is illegal immigrants, there is a process to enter the US and Kamala Harris has allowed it to be circumvented allowing untold numbers of criminals in the US without deportation, these criminal illegal immigrants have caused much harm to American citizens
 
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You have provided nothing that wasn't already known

"Other" in my definition is illegal immigrants, there is a process to enter the US and Kamala Harris has allowed it to be circumvented allowing untold numbers of criminals in the US without deportation, these criminal illegal immigrants have caused much harm to American citizens
You can't just blame Harris for immigrants who enter illegally. They sneak in the same as when they did so under Trump, Obama and Bush, etc...
 
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