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Man at Kamala rally thrown out and mocked for saying Jesus is Lord

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while I don't think Kamala is the Antichrist.. I was just having a hard time finding a news article to link to but I saw a lot of videos of the exchange..
Kamala Harris is being called Anti-Christ following Wisconsin rally | The Express Tribune

But as the videos show..
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Someone at the rally yelled out "Christ is King, Jesus is Lord!" and Kamala said "you guys are at the wrong rally".. to applause.

So if there was ever any doubt..
and believe me I'm not much of a Trump fan by any means
but a candidate that mocks my Savior? I vote against her. .
For what it's worth, I think the person who was removed didn't approve of Kamala's pro-choice stance on abortion. I say this because from what I can tell, that is what she was talking about when they started heckling her. Subsequently, the statement "Christ is King, Jesus is Lord", which I can hear being said while they are already being escorted out, does not mean he was being kicked out for calling Jesus Lord; it was probably being said to convey the person's conviction that abortion is murdering children.

If I'm right about their intention, it would be unfair to accuse Harris of mocking God's Christ who suffered and died so that sins could be forgiven.
 
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We will never have a voice in government again if Trump wins.

We won't. He is dangerous and I doubt we can recover if he gets in again.
A majority of voting Americans say the same about Kamala Harris and her border policy over the last 3.5 years, if she gets in were doomed!
 
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A majority of voting Americans say the same about Kamala Harris and her border policy over the last 3.5 years, if she gets in were doomed!
A policy that cares for the poor is not equivalent to tyranny.
 
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Banning those perceived as 'disloyal'. That is an authoritarian way of running the government. He only wants yes men.
Sounds intelligent to me, a business doesn't want employees that aren't loyal, neither should Trump, basic common sense
 
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“Christ is King. Jesus is Lord.”

“You guys are at the wrong rally.”

Audience applause.

OK. I guess they really were at the wrong rally. I, too, am not at all hasty to say anyone is an antichrist. And yet anyone who thinks Jesus Christ is Lord just got told by the candidate herself that they don’t belong in her camp. I’d think it’s obvious. She thinks it’s obvious. The audience thinks it’s obvious.

That doesn’t mean you have to be in the Trump camp though. There ARE other options. It does mean if you do believe Jesus is Lord that you are at the wrong rally if it’s a Kamala Harris rally.
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This. I find it hard to believe that an active and believing Christian can vote for her. At some point there just has to be a line for a candidate that actively mocks your faith and says you are in the wrong place. Believing that "Jesus is Lord" is a foundation of our faith no matter how liberal one's beliefs are.
 
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A policy that cares for the poor is not equivalent to tyranny.
Nobody said it was tyranny

Your suggested claim that everybody crossing the US borders illegal are just the helpless poor is "False"!

It's my recommendation that everybody that believes in the Kamala Harris give away to illegal immigrants should sell their homes and empty their bank accounts and give it all away to Harris and her handy work, I won't hold my breath
 
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This. I find it hard to believe that an active and believing Christian can vote for her. At some point there just has to be a line for a candidate that actively mocks your faith and says you are in the wrong place. Believing that "Jesus is Lord" is a foundation of our faith no matter how liberal one's beliefs are.
I have voted for Harris. I do not see where she mocked the faith that Jesus is the Christ.
 
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Nobody said it was tyranny
It's tyranny to persecute "the enemy within" (people who are not MAGA).
Your suggested claim that everybody crossing the US borders illegal are just the helpless poor is "False"!
That's not what I claimed. I claimed that the policy of caring for the poor, asylum seekers, refugees, is not tyranny.
It's my recommendation that everybody that believes in the Kamala Harris give away to illegal immigrants should sell their homes and empty their bank accounts and give it all away to Harris and her handy work, I won't hold my breath
That's not her policy, but at least you agree the poor and destitute should be cared for.
 
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Harris supports and promotes abortion and a woman's choice, do you agree with that?
I'm a male. And as a male, I've always been pro-life because I believe that if a woman carry's her child to term, she will eventually be glad that she didn't get an abortion. Having said that, I also believe that the law is the strength of sin and that no flesh will be justified by works of the law. In other words, I don't believe that the state should be making that choice for men or women.
 
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This. I find it hard to believe that an active and believing Christian can vote for her. At some point there just has to be a line for a candidate that actively mocks your faith and says you are in the wrong place. Believing that "Jesus is Lord" is a foundation of our faith no matter how liberal one's beliefs are.
What the smart response could have been is her replying “Amen brother!” And moved right along with her rally. I don’t think her reply was very joyful, unifying, or turning the page on anything. It does not matter how bad Trump is, he cannot always be the excuse to avoid hard topics or excuse the pun, steal your joy.
 
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Sounds intelligent to me, a business doesn't want employees that aren't loyal, neither should Trump, basic common sense
Not if that loyalty drives them to go against the lawand the constitution.
That is what Trump asked of Pence, to go against the constitution.
 
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A majority of voting Americans say the same about Kamala Harris and her border policy over the last 3.5 years, if she gets in were doomed!
Trump and the Republican's drive to make immigrants "other" has created an hysteria regarding the border.
IF they really cared about the border, they would have passed the bipartisan bill that wou have added agents and expanded the courts dealing with amnesty cases.


Making a group the "other" is a sign of authoritarianism.
 
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For what it's worth, I think the person who was removed didn't approve of Kamala's pro-choice stance on abortion. I say this because from what I can tell, that is what she was talking about when they started heckling her. Subsequently, the statement "Christ is King, Jesus is Lord", which I can hear being said while they are already being escorted out, does not mean he was being kicked out for calling Jesus Lord; it was probably being said to convey the person's conviction that abortion is murdering children.

If I'm right about their intention, it would be unfair to accuse Harris of mocking God's Christ who suffered and died so that sins could be forgiven.
Yes, it seems to be that two different videos are being regarded as one. The heckler was closer to saying "lies, lies" when the video showing a close up of Harris is played. Then there is video of the guy being confronted where he says Christ is King.

There is no indication that Harris was mocking God at all. This is just political spin.
 
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This. I find it hard to believe that an active and believing Christian can vote for her. At some point there just has to be a line for a candidate that actively mocks your faith and says you are in the wrong place. Believing that "Jesus is Lord" is a foundation of our faith no matter how liberal one's beliefs are.
I do not believe she is mocking his faith. I think two videos are used here.

I find it hard to believe Christians vote for Trump, who lies and lies.
 
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I do not believe she is mocking his faith. I think two videos are used here.

I find it hard to believe Christians vote for Trump, who lies and lies.
Yeah and let’s not forget Vance who’s also a liar.
 
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Yes, it seems to be that two different videos are being regarded as one. The heckler was closer to saying "lies, lies" when the video showing a close up of Harris is played. Then there is video of the guy being confronted where he says Christ is King.

There is no indication that Harris was mocking God at all. This is just political spin.
Most of the propaganda I see against Harris is just slanderous accusation.
 
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I do not believe she is mocking his faith. I think two videos are used here.

I find it hard to believe Christians vote for Trump, who lies and lies.
Has anyone in her camp came out to say that is what happened?
 
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What’s the smart response could have been is her replying “Amen brother!” And moved right along with her rally. I don’t think her reply was very joyful, unifying, or turning the page on anything. It does not matter how bad Trump is, he cannot always be the excuse to avoid hard topics or excuse the pun, steal your joy.
It seems like such an obvious slam dunk win response especially from a professed Baptist.
Just an Amen, or a "For ever and ever" and you'd not have a faux pas on your hands
 
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Interesting. Note the second paragraph:

The lists of undesirable staffers include people linked to the Project 2025 policy blueprint; officials who resigned in protest of Trump’s response to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol; and others perceived as disloyal to the former president, said two former Trump officials familiar with the discussions. The former officials were granted anonymity to discuss private transition operations.​
Banning those perceived as 'disloyal'. That is an authoritarian way of running the government. He only wants yes men.

What I would expect to happen, should he win, is that his former employee who are authors of Project 2025 will 'distance' themselves from it, but then will say that their little part was okay. Trump will bring them back on staff. It is all marketing to him.
True he wants loyalists but does any politician really appoint opposition in their cabinet?
But he is not going to be doing project 2025.
not that it can be done, it's so unconstitutional it's a pipe dream
 
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