Man at Kamala rally thrown out and mocked for saying Jesus is Lord

[Postvieww]

We will never have a voice in government again if Trump wins.

No basis in fact in this statement. It is not Trump trying silence the opposition. It is liberals trying to shut down speech not favorable to them. All of this Trump is a threat to democracy is a joke and nothing less than liberal propaganda. The only threat to democracy in this election cycle is the socialist Kamala.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

while I don't think Kamala is the Antichrist.. I was just having a hard time finding a news article to link to but I saw a lot of videos of the exchange..
Kamala Harris is being called Anti-Christ following Wisconsin rally | The Express Tribune

But as the videos show..
x.com
Someone at the rally yelled out "Christ is King, Jesus is Lord!" and Kamala said "you guys are at the wrong rally".. to applause.

So if there was ever any doubt..
and believe me I'm not much of a Trump fan by any means
but a candidate that mocks my Savior? I vote against her. .

The scripture says there are many antichrists. An antichrist is a person who denies Jesus and wants you to deny Him also. Technically, everyone who denies Jesus is part of the anti-Christ spirit.

1 John 4:2-3 KJV
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

 

[FreeinChrist]

No basis in fact in this statement. It is not Trump trying silence the opposition. It is liberals trying to shut down speech not favorable to them. All of this Trump is a threat to democracy is a joke and nothing less than liberal propaganda. The only threat to democracy in this election cycle is the socialist Kamala.

And there is no basis in fact for the idea that liberals are silencing the opposition. The idea that Trump is dangerous comes from those who served in his administration.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

"And there is no basis in fact for the idea that liberals are silencing the opposition. "

Seriously Free? I respect you and your opinions, but I wonder if you are paying attention.
Peace.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Seriously Free? I respect you and your opinions, but I wonder if you are paying attention.
Peace.

I would say the same to you.

There is a time and a place to call out things. Freedom of speech goes only so far. For example, it would be inappropriate to call out "Vote Trump" during prayer at a church. It is inappropriate to praise to Satan in a Christian church. It is inappropriate to yell "FIRE!" when there isn't one in a crowded theater or another crowded place with limited exits. I also think it is inappropriate to use swear words in church when speaking but apparently Trump doesn't think so.

Protesters of any stripe can be shouted down, or joked at and it this case, it doesn't mean the one joking (Harris) is anti-Christian.
IF a protester was yelling out "Vote Kamala" in a Trump rally, Trump would tell his supporters to punch them.

I watched the video where the camera is focused on Harris, and I did not understand the words the person was yelling out. Not even with the volume turned up full. I don't know what she heard, but she would be expecting pro-Trump supporters to show up.

 

[RileyG]

I would say the same to you.

There is a time and a place to call out things. Freedom of speech goes only so far. For example, it would be inappropriate to call out "Vote Trump" during prayer at a church. It is inappropriate to praise to Satan in a Christian church. It is inappropriate to yell "FIRE!" when there isn't one in a crowded theater or another crowded place with limited exits. I also think it is inappropriate to use swear words in church when speaking but apparently Trump doesn't think so.

Protesters of any stripe can be shouted down, or joked at and it this case, it doesn't mean the one joking (Harris) is anti-Christian.
IF a protester was yelling out "Vote Kamala" in a Trump rally, Trump would tell his supporters to punch them.

I watched the video where the camera is focused on Harris, and I did not understand the words the person was yelling out. Not even with the volume turned up full. I don't know what she heard, but she would be expecting pro-Trump supporters to show up.

Well said.

 

[QvQ]

Kamala is very polite to Pro-Palestinian hecklers at her rallies.
They are not thrown out or told they are at the wrong rally.
She said "Every voice should be heard" and she hushed them saying, "I am speaking."

As someone noted,
When a Baptist hears, "Jesus is Lord"
The Baptist response is "Amen"

Whatever else happened,
I did not hear any Amens

 

[RileyG]

Kamala is very polite to Pro-Palestinian hecklers at her rallies.
They are not thrown out or told they are at the wrong rally.
She said "Every voice should be heard" and she hushed them saying, "I am speaking."

As someone noted,
When a Baptist hears, "Jesus is Lord"
The Baptist response is "Amen"

Whatever else happened,
I did not hear any Amens

She is Baptist, and she doesn't like to be interrupted, especially by men.

"I am speaking" will probably become her new catch phrase, if , God forbid, she is elected POTUS.

Blessings

 

[lismore]

but a candidate that mocks my Savior? I vote against her. .

Well done Jamdoc. I applaud your stance

God Bless You

 

[RileyG]

while I don't think Kamala is the Antichrist.. I was just having a hard time finding a news article to link to but I saw a lot of videos of the exchange..
Kamala Harris is being called Anti-Christ following Wisconsin rally | The Express Tribune

But as the videos show..
x.com
Someone at the rally yelled out "Christ is King, Jesus is Lord!" and Kamala said "you guys are at the wrong rally".. to applause.

So if there was ever any doubt..
and believe me I'm not much of a Trump fan by any means
but a candidate that mocks my Savior? I vote against her. .

Amen to that!

 

[FreeinChrist]

Kamala is very polite to Pro-Palestinian hecklers at her rallies.
They are not thrown out or told they are at the wrong rally.
She said "Every voice should be heard" and she hushed them saying, "I am speaking."

As someone noted,
When a Baptist hears, "Jesus is Lord"
The Baptist response is "Amen"

Whatever else happened,
I did not hear any Amens

AS I wrote, there is a time and a place for calling things out.
I don't know what she heard.
There is a lot of assumptions in this thread.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I compared what they said. I hope the similarity stops there.

Whatever you say you did it was actually pretty ugly.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Whatever you say you did it was actually pretty ugly.

But the comparison is real. Trump said what he said. It echoed Mussolini. Trump does like the strongmen like Putin, Orban and Xi.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Then it is ugly AND intentional of you. Trump said something that reminded somebody of Mussolini and you picked up on it to share with all of us. Trump, Mussolini, Hitler, Xi, Putin, and Orban. Why not throw in Pol Pot and Idi Amin? Really, you want to double and triple down on this comparison, don't you. Get hold of your senses please. If Trump wins, his second term is not going to be incredibly different than his first term. Were you making similar comparisons to Mussolini and Hitler and Xi and Putin then? I suppose maybe you were? I'm just saying it's over the top. Way over.

I agree. None of the horrible predictions came true at the end of the 1st term. The 2nd term will be the same. No holocausts. No slavery. No handmaidens. No cutting out Social Security. All just made up fear-mongering. Make sure we call them all out when it is over.

I would say the same to you.

There is a time and a place to call out things. Freedom of speech goes only so far. For example, it would be inappropriate to call out "Vote Trump" during prayer at a church. It is inappropriate to praise to Satan in a Christian church. It is inappropriate to yell "FIRE!" when there isn't one in a crowded theater or another crowded place with limited exits. I also think it is inappropriate to use swear words in church when speaking but apparently Trump doesn't think so.

Protesters of any stripe can be shouted down, or joked at and it this case, it doesn't mean the one joking (Harris) is anti-Christian.
IF a protester was yelling out "Vote Kamala" in a Trump rally, Trump would tell his supporters to punch them.

I watched the video where the camera is focused on Harris, and I did not understand the words the person was yelling out. Not even with the volume turned up full. I don't know what she heard, but she would be expecting pro-Trump supporters to show up.

If you could not hear it, I wonder how much of a disruption it was.

 

[Jamdoc]

But the comparison is real. Trump said what he said. It echoed Mussolini. Trump does like the strongmen like Putin, Orban and Xi.

Trump does like too many strongmen/dictators, and for that reason I don't personally like him.
However to his credit he has shown some signs that he's not going to be a dictator himself. The much feared project 2025 that Democrats try to say he is the author of? Wasn't him and in fact he's compiled a list of the people who did author it and banned them from being part of his staff.

He's a narcissist, and as a narcissist if there's one thing you can rely on is if public opinion strongly opposes something, he's going to move away from those policies because people will think negatively about him and he absolutely doesn't want that. Hence why he acts as a populist. He finds the things that he feels people really want, and latches onto those issues, and to some extent it does feed off the prejudices of the voting base in a negative way. That's why he focuses so hard on illegal immigration.
He will also find positions that straddle a fence if he feels that that will be the popular way to resolve a dicey issue, like abortion. He appointed judges that struck down Roe v Wade, something that Republicans had wanted to do for a very long time, BUT, he did not press for a federal abortion ban. In a way what he did was a smart way of trying to play both sides. Repealing Roe v Wade turns the issue over to the states, where it's no longer in his hands. He can play pro life because he's had the single most impact on federal abortion law in 50 years, however, it remains legal in most states, and he can wash his hands clean of the issue unless a bill lands on his desk federally.
When asked about whether he'd sign into law a federal abortion ban, he dodged the question, something that a more convicted Republican who was NOT trying to play for what he thought was popular, or at least only concerned with what was popular in 1 party, would have said "yes I would sign it into law" without missing a beat.
Donald Trump dodged the question.
Why?
Because he'd veto it. He was pro choice most of his career until he switched parties. He's still on the fence personally even if he says he's pro life. He's "pro life" because that's the republican platform, he's playing to the Republican crowd and wants to fit in. So what he wants to do, is toss the Republican base a W by getting Roe v Wade overturned, but not actually push for Abortion bans personally. That's the winning position for him. What states decide is out of his hands.

Speaking of out of his hands, that's another thing that happened with the first Trump presidency. He actually did not do a lot personally. He delegated authority to other people to basically do the job for him, while he was kind of a figurehead. That's what he wants to be. He wants the glory of being president, but when it comes to the job, other people will do it. When he did try to do things, those same people restrained him. Same thing will happen 2nd time around. He won't want to actually govern and hand responsibility to other people, but those other people will hinder him from doing anything truly regrettable.

So while I don't like Trump personally, I anticipate it won't overthrow the nation and turn it into a dictatorship the way people fear it. I also don't think Kamala would destroy the country though I fear I'd really dislike some of her policies

Now Biden on the other hand.. him I feel was a disaster, the way he deals with Iran, the way he keeps goading Russia (eventually something will happen on that front and I don't think Biden is the man to be a World War III president), he got the Petrodollar Deal expired too, that's going to have impacts on inflation and the value of the dollar vs global currencies sooner or later., because he kept aggravating the Saudis over the Kashoggi thing and kept trying to make nice with Iran. I can only hope Kamala is not as disastrous as that. I don't think we'd have survived a 2nd Biden term though.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Trump does like too many strongmen/dictators, and for that reason I don't personally like him.
However to his credit he has shown some signs that he's not going to be a dictator himself. The much feared project 2025 that Democrats try to say he is the author of? Wasn't him and in fact he's compiled a list of the people who did author it and banned them from being part of his staff.

No, he did not compile a list. The authors are listed in the book which has been seen pre-reliease. J. D. Vance wrote a glowing foreward,
And here is the thing - Vance is backed by Peter Thiel. What if Trump is shown to be senile, and not doing well, and Vance is president? Thiel and Musk both benefit from the stuff advocated in Project 2025. The viewpoints expressed in it are views of those surrounding Trump.
I haven't seen anywhere that Trump said they could not be on staff. Nor would I expect Trump to stick to that after the election.
Project 2025 just spells out the agenda that the Republicans have wanted, though in part, all along.

 

[mourningdove~]

I agree. None of the horrible predictions came true at the end of the 1st term. The 2nd term will be the same. No holocausts. No slavery. No handmaidens. No cutting out Social Security. All just made up fear-mongering.

Exactly.
None of the horrible predictions came true at the end of Trump's 1st term, and his 2nd term will be the same.

Personally, there were times I wished that Trump had been stronger against the evil behaviors of some. NEVER did he actually go after Hillary Clinton and "Lock her up", though many thought he should have. And when all the rioting was happening? Especially in DC? I sat there waiting for him to take some strong action. Like, "Lock em all up!" But he didn't. He just doesn't work that way.

It is all fear-mongering. And the media has done a very good job at making Trump look like the next Hitler.

Just like ... they took a very ineffective 'Border Czar' and made her overnight into a political *SuperStar*. And folks are buying it. It's the same M.O.: Pump out loads of very effective propaganda ... propaganda that pushes out a false image of someone, an image that is not real at all ... and many will believe it.

... and they keep doing it because they know this strategy works.

 

[Jamdoc]

No, he did not compile a list. The authors are listed in the book which has been seen pre-reliease. J. D. Vance wrote a glowing foreward,
And here is the thing - Vance is backed by Peter Thiel. What if Trump is shown to be senile, and not doing well, and Vance is president? Thiel and Musk both benefit from the stuff advocated in Project 2025. The viewpoints expressed in it are views of those surrounding Trump.
I haven't seen anywhere that Trump said they could not be on staff. Nor would I expect Trump to stick to that after the election.
Project 2025 just spells out the agenda that the Republicans have wanted, though in part, all along.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/16/trump-transition-hiring-staffer-ban-00183208
Trump team says it will blacklist Project 2025 people in sign of plan’s toxicity

 

[FreeinChrist]

It is not "Trump hatred" which is a cheap way (can't think of the word) of debating.

My view of Trump is because of Trump. Not "Hate" as Trump supporters like to view it. And on this messageboard, one does not have to like Trump or tiptoe around. People have been free to criticize Dems for every little thing. No one needs to pretend they are victims when Trump is criticized. This is the political section of CF.

Besides being a convicted felon for fraud, he has lived a lifestyle of fraud with his Trump University where he defrauded students, to the Trump foundation that he used as a personal piggyback and not for charity, to the lie that he built buildings that only carry his name and that he did not build, and years of cheating on taxes. Donald failed to pay workman, short changing them. Arnold Palmer's daughter said Arnold did not like Trump because Donald cheated at golf, saying that a man who cheats at golf would cheat at business. Yep.

Besides cheating at business, Trump cheated on all three wives. He lies frequently. Trump also calls people childish names and speaks like a 4th grader who says horrible things about people then whines when he is critized, playing the poor victim. As if. He is also grifting constantly - like selling coins for $100 that have only $30 of gold in them. And those stupid cards? Good grief.

IF Trump is elected, he will abandon Ukraine to Russia, even though the only time Russia had control of Kiev was during the Soviet years. Trump will pull the US out of NATO, creating heightened tension. It is bad enough as it is - Switzerland, long time neutral nation - has joined Europe in participating in the European Sky Shield Program because of Russia. China will be given free reign.

In the US, Trump will be destructive, adding to the deficit. According on one source, Trump's policies will drain Social Security in 6 years. Trump has doubled down on using the military on the 'enemy within', naming political rivals Pelosi and Shift. Jailing the enemy is a dictatorial thing to do. Donald will create a swamp that will do his bidding despite the law.

Trump will not be for the average joe at all. He is for himself and his rich friends. He behaves and speaks crudely, has no sensitivity or emphathy, and will be an embarassment to the country like the last time.

That is just a few of the reasons I do not believe Trump is fit for the office of the President.

 

[FreeinChrist]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/16/trump-transition-hiring-staffer-ban-00183208
Trump team says it will blacklist Project 2025 people in sign of plan’s toxicity

Interesting. Note the second paragraph:

The lists of undesirable staffers include people linked to the Project 2025 policy blueprint; officials who resigned in protest of Trump’s response to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol; and others perceived as disloyal to the former president, said two former Trump officials familiar with the discussions. The former officials were granted anonymity to discuss private transition operations.​

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Banning those perceived as 'disloyal'. That is an authoritarian way of running the government. He only wants yes men.

What I would expect to happen, should he win, is that his former employee who are authors of Project 2025 will 'distance' themselves from it, but then will say that their little part was okay. Trump will bring them back on staff. It is all marketing to him.