J.D. Vance on His Catholic Faith & His Hindu Wife

[Michie]

The Hillbilly Elegy author added even though he helps with the children, there is increased responsibility on his wife, who has not converted to Christianity, to manage them during weekly mass.​

Ohio senator and Donald’s Trump running mate for the US Presidential Elections this year, JD Vance opened up about converting to Catholicism and dealing with the guilt over his wife, Usha Vance, accompanying him to church every week.

In an interview with the New York Times, Vance revealed that his wife, Usha Chilukuri Vance, who grew up in a Hindu household, supported him in his spiritual journey towards the Catholic faith and his eventual baptism in 2019.

“I felt kind of bad about it, right? Like, you didn’t sign up for a weekly churchgoer. I feel terrible for my wife because we go to church almost every Sunday, unless we’re on the road.”, said Vance talking about his wife in the interview.

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https://indianexpress.com/article/world/jd-vance-hindu-wife-usha-church-christanity-us-elections-donald-trump-9617845/

 

[FaithT]

The Hillbilly Elegy author added even though he helps with the children, there is increased responsibility on his wife, who has not converted to Christianity, to manage them during weekly mass.​

Ohio senator and Donald’s Trump running mate for the US Presidential Elections this year, JD Vance opened up about converting to Catholicism and dealing with the guilt over his wife, Usha Vance, accompanying him to church every week.

In an interview with the New York Times, Vance revealed that his wife, Usha Chilukuri Vance, who grew up in a Hindu household, supported him in his spiritual journey towards the Catholic faith and his eventual baptism in 2019.

“I felt kind of bad about it, right? Like, you didn’t sign up for a weekly churchgoer. I feel terrible for my wife because we go to church almost every Sunday, unless we’re on the road.”, said Vance talking about his wife in the interview.

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https://indianexpress.com/article/world/jd-vance-hindu-wife-usha-church-christanity-us-elections-donald-trump-9617845/

He said they go to Mass every Sunday unless they’re on the road. Huh. Even when I was on vacation I went to Mass. He could make it to Mass if he wanted to.

 

[Michie]

Yes. In my parish if we go on vacation we are encouraged to attend Mass and bring a bulletin back from the parishes we attend.

 

[RileyG]

He said they go to Mass every Sunday unless they’re on the road. Huh. Even when I was on vacation I went to Mass. He could make it to Mass if he wanted to.

agreed

 

[mourningdove~]

“I felt kind of bad about it, right? Like, you didn’t sign up for a weekly churchgoer. I feel terrible for my wife because we go to church almost every Sunday, unless we’re on the road.”, said Vance talking about his wife in the interview.

Sounds like Vance was being very honest in his answer.
Not trying to be what he is not ...

I can respect that more than a phony who pretends to be religious when he or she is not.

 

[RileyG]

Sounds like Vance was being very honest in his answer.
Not trying to be what he is not ...

I can respect that more than a phony who pretends to be religious when he or she is not.

Hopefully his wife is baptized and converts.

 

[mourningdove~]

Hopefully his wife is baptized and converts.

Yes. Life is so much better, when husband and wife are on the same 'spiritual' page.

 

[RileyG]

Yes. Life is so much better, when husband and wife are on the same 'spiritual' page.

I’m single but marriage is a sacrament that gives grace, after all.

 

[fide]

agreed

Being on a campaign trip for an election to VP of the USA, running against socialists/communists who want to remake America into a globalist culture of death (to use a phrase of JPII), and who, according to polls could well be elected, is NOT a Vacation. (Unless your name is Joe Biden, that is.) I'd go very slow on judging the man.

 

[FaithT]

Being on a campaign trip for an election to VP of the USA, running against socialists/communists who want to remake America into a globalist culture of death (to use a phrase of JPII), and who, according to polls could well be elected, is NOT a Vacation. (Unless your name is Joe Biden, that is.) I'd go very slow on judging the man.

Tomato tomahto. He could attend Mass if he wanted to. It’s funny how you were down on me for skipping Mass but you’re giving that liar a free pass.

 

[fide]

Tomato tomahto. He could attend Mass if he wanted to. It’s funny how you were down on me for skipping Mass but you’re giving that liar a free pass.

What has led you to think that he is a "liar"?

 

[FaithT]

What has led you to think that he is a "liar"?

The “eating of peoples pets”, his excuse for not going to Mass while trying to portray himself as a devout Catholic, his views that he spews as facts about childless women, among other things.

 

[fide]

The “eating of peoples pets”, his excuse for not going to Mass while trying to portray himself as a devout Catholic, his views that he spews as facts about childless women, among other things.

Is there no doubt in your mind that pet-eating has never happened, that his missing Mass is not understood and excused as valid by his priest, that he "spews" comments about (some? all?) childless women that are never true?

I hear no sorrow or even compassion in you toward this man, and I wonder why. The Lord requires us to be forgiving people, to have hearts of mercy toward others. Do you ever pray the prayer, the Our Father? If you do, then you tell God to forgive you no more nor less than you forgive others who, for whatever reason, have "trespassed" the boundaries of your own heart:
-- "Forgive us our trespasses as we have forgiven those who trespass against us."

Do you really want God to be as hard toward you, as you apparently are toward Vance? If you want mercy from God - as I hope you do - know that God wants sincere and true mercy from you toward others. And that is a fact.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

The Lord requires us to be forgiving people, to have hearts of mercy toward others.

It helps when there is repentance, acknowledgment of wrong and requested forgiveness.

 

[fide]

It helps when there is repentance, acknowledgment of wrong and requested forgiveness.

Actually, it helps more when there is not repentance, acknowledgment of wrong nor requested forgiveness. This is the mercy Jesus demonstrated on the Cross.

And He calls us to the same:

Mt 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.'
Mt 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Mt 5:45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mt 5:46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
Mt 5:47 And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
Mt 5:48 You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

As Paul wrote:

Rom 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God; for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord."
Rom 12:20 No, "if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head."
Rom 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

The Lord never said it would be easy, but He did say it is easier ultimately than the alternative - a life in contradiction:

Mt 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Mt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."

We must seek, hunger for and pray for Holy Grace!

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Actually, it helps more when there is not repentance, acknowledgment of wrong nor requested forgiveness. This is the mercy Jesus demonstrated on the Cross.

And He calls us to the same:


As Paul wrote:


The Lord never said it would be easy, but He did say it is easier ultimately than the alternative - a life in contradiction:


We must seek, hunger for and pray for Holy Grace!

Love is one thing but trust is another. I can forgive you out of love even if you do not have the humility or repentance to ask.

But trust you and elect you to hold office is not something Jesus calls us to.

 

[fide]

Love is one thing but trust is another. I can forgive you out of love even if you do not have the humility or repentance to ask.

But trust you and elect you to hold office is not something Jesus calls us to.

I agree completely. Forgiving means handing over the case to Jesus and His Judgment; it does not mean that the transgression committed is now OK, or a good thing, or "please do that again." We are to love the person as God does, but hate the sin also as God does. We are not to hate the man because of his sin, or love the sin because of the man.

The above, of course, presume that the man is actually guilty of the sin as perceived and charged. If a man is wrongly accused of, for example, being an (intentional, deliberate) liar, then he is in fact innocent. An actual deliberate liar ought not be trusted unless he sincerely repented of the vice of lying.

 

[mourningdove~]

Being on a campaign trip for an election to VP of the USA, running against socialists/communists who want to remake America into a globalist culture of death (to use a phrase of JPII), and who, according to polls could well be elected, is NOT a Vacation. (Unless your name is Joe Biden, that is.) I'd go very slow on judging the man.

I agree.

Frankly, some reasons for missing Mass do appear to be more valid than others. Example: It may be hard for a mother caring for a disabled child to get there; a person with a mental illness may find going to Mass to be very challenging, etc. And yes, campaigning and running against socialists/communists might be a valid reason, too. BUT ... that is for a priest to decide in the confessional.

Vance has never presented himself as a role model Catholic, or as a role model to them. Just like Melania never did, but some of us were quick to make her one, and then were disappointed in her to learn she's pro-choice.

My goodness, I try very hard to see people as people. With weaknesses and faults, just like me. The judgment some pass on others is really quite harsh. I'm so glad God doesn't judge me that harshly, or I'd be 'done for'. There would be no hope for me, if the Lord was not merciful and forgiving.

There are some persons in politics that I do not like at all. One time, for eight years, I felt I had no President. I only remember watching him one time on the television, and that was it. It was a very difficult time, having a President that I did not feel represented me. But I endured it.

For about 50% of us in America, that is going to happen again soon. 50% of us are not going to be happy with the election results. 50% of us are probably going to be very sad, maybe even miserable, over the outcome. Maybe it is a good time now, to begin practicing forgiveness towards those we don't like. And I speak that as well to myself, as I realize I still feel resentment towards the President that did not represent me or my values. I still am angry at him, for the things he did to America. I will never trust him, but as a Christian I am expected to forgive him. I guess that much I can do, and pray for the salvation of his soul.

 

[RileyG]

Tomato tomahto. He could attend Mass if he wanted to. It’s funny how you were down on me for skipping Mass but you’re giving that liar a free pass.

I agree, he made his choice.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

I realize you weren't talking to me but..

Is there no doubt in your mind that pet-eating has never happened,

Yes. Reason: This was actually traced back to the person who started this vile and asinine rumor, and SHE says she lied.

There's actually a Wikipedia page on this hoax

Springfield pet-eating hoax - Wikipedia

That fact that you still defend this say boxcar loads about your character.

I hear no sorrow or even compassion in you toward this man, and I wonder why.

Because he's a fascist pig who has some kind of fetish for Indian women ?

Ever notice how he never actually says "our children" when talking about his kids, it's always "her children". And his racial views are just to the left of a 1830's slave owner. This relationship is based on some kind of weird underlying sexual obsession, I promise you.

And the eyeliner ? And that haircut ?

Yeah, there's some REAL heteronormal behavior there.......

Do you really want God to be as hard toward you, as you apparently are toward Vance?

Maybe it's the warrior in me Fide, but at this point, if it keeps American free for my children and grandchildren, I risk the hit.

If you want mercy from God - as I hope you do - know that God wants sincere and true mercy from you toward others. And that is a fact.

Hey, Fide, none of my business but maybe you should read some of your comments on this thread.....