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Trump & Religious Principles

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If anyone cares to check, I have declared that I am a non-believer. I am quite used to people disregarding my opinions.

That is pretty well the rule on Christian Forums. I shall persevere . . .
I'd be glad to hear you and speak with you here. I am not sure which thread of forum would be best for that.
I am a Christian. But I sure was not born one. So some empathy I have for other people who are not yet. Or may choose never to be.
That would be a tragedy, I say, because Jesus Christ is the perfect human life and what God meant by human being.

Christ is what God meant by man. I am sure about that. Normal is Jesus. And Jesus is an exposure of how fallen away
from God's intention for humanity we have become.
 
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Any movement by Harris is fake! She can’t even speak coherently without a teleprompter. Kamala is totally incompetent as a leader. This anyone but Trump mentality will destroy this nation.

Anyone but Trump will mentally destroy this nation? Are you listening to yourself? No one else but Trump? Be honest, please.
 
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I'd be glad to hear you and speak with you here. I am not sure which thread of forum would be best for that.
This is the only ethics forum where I can post, so here. I have been posting here for several years.

But this thread is about Trump's religious principles, not mine.
 
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Any movement by Harris is fake! She can’t even speak coherently without a teleprompter. Kamala is totally incompetent as a leader. This anyone but Trump mentality will destroy this nation.
off-topic - as well as ridiculous.
 
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This is the only ethics forum where I can post, so here. I have been posting here for several years.

But this thread is about Trump's religious principles, not mine.
But you mentioned that you were an unbeliever with whom most people here disagree.
Briefly then you did make it about your "religious principles" - unbelief.
 
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But you mentioned that you were an unbeliever with whom most people here disagree.
Briefly then you did make it about your "religious principles" - unbelief.
It used to be that everyone's details, such as where they live and their religious beliefs, were always visible under their avatar. Now you have to click the small arrow underneath it to check. Maybe you could argue whatever matter is being debated without checking someone's denomination or religion or lack of same in threads like this.

I find it helps to concentrate on what is being said as opposed to who is saying it. So don't check mine...
 
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I’ll tell what . You show me a clearly stated policy of Kamala’s with direct quotes and I will match you one for one. The ones she stole from Trump excluded.

We aren't talking about Kamala Harris. Don't pass the buck, take responsibility.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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But you mentioned that you were an unbeliever with whom most people here disagree.
Briefly then you did make it about your "religious principles" - unbelief.
A person does not need to be a believer to see the lack of religious principles in someone like Trump.
 
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A person does not need to be a believer to see the lack of religious principles in someone like Trump.
Trump has many times shown “religious principles “ by his acts of kindness and compassion, but most liberals would not know of these since liberal news outlets would never report them.
 
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Trump has many times shown “religious principles “ by his acts of kindness and compassion, but most liberals would not know of these since liberals news outlets would never report them.

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again.
 
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Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again.
My problem isn't with the blind squirrels and acorns, but the ones that forget where they buried all of the walnuts. :)
 
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My problem isn't with the blind squirrels and acorns, but the ones that forget where they buried all of the walnuts. :)
You mean like a President who ask “what storm “ after one if the worst storms in recent history?
 
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A person does not need to be a believer to see the lack of religious principles in someone like Trump.
On the flip side a non - believer can be comfortable with the anti religious actions of the current administration.
 
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It was a fair offer. But I admit I already knew you couldn’t do it.

I'll take this to mean that you can't provide what I was asking you to provide. Thanks anyway.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I'll take this to mean that you can't provide what I was asking you to provide. Thanks anyway.

-CryptoLutheran
I can and I will but you are the one who can’t stand the counter challenge. Typical liberal maneuver.
 
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Trump has many times shown “religious principles “ by his acts of kindness and compassion, but most liberals would not know of these since liberal news outlets would never report them.
Here is a chance to counter this liberal bias by giving examples of Trump's 'kindness and compassion'. (But please do not claim that kindness and compassion are exclusively Christian virtues.)
 
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