-
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
-
CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Analysts React To Biden’s Remarks About Harris: ‘Literally Trying To Destroy Her Campaign’
- Thread starter Hammster
- Start date
- Aug 3, 2012
- 30,397
- 30,201
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Democrat
The "analysts" on OP's story are a single talking head on CNN who's a long time Republican operative and Don Jr.
Upvote
0
- Apr 5, 2007
- 144,404
- 27,062
- 57
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Reformed
- Marital Status
- Married
Upvote
0
- Aug 3, 2012
- 30,397
- 30,201
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Democrat
Ah woops, I misread two quotes at the end that I thought were attributed to "numerous users". So we have a Republican operative on CNN, a Republican operative on (I assume) Twitter (i.e. John Cooper), and a writer at RedState. Oh, and Don Jr.
Upvote
0
- Apr 5, 2007
- 144,404
- 27,062
- 57
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Reformed
- Marital Status
- Married
Upvote
0
- Aug 3, 2012
- 30,397
- 30,201
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Democrat
Yes, there are multiple professional Republicans saying bad things about Biden and Harris.
Upvote
0
- Apr 5, 2007
- 144,404
- 27,062
- 57
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Reformed
- Marital Status
- Married
Upvote
0
- Aug 3, 2012
- 30,397
- 30,201
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Democrat
It's irrelevant to identify the people described in headline?
Or do you mean that the people themselves are irrelevant? In which case, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a nice thought. Maybe some day we'll get there.
Upvote
0
Hans Blaster
I march with Sherman
- Mar 11, 2017
- 23,333
- 17,317
- 55
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Private
- Politics
- US-Democrat
What "heart"? That Harris has been involved in the decision making process of the Biden Administration at the highest level? She not only doesn't deny it, she claims it as part of her experience and qualification for the job she seeks.
Upvote
0
- Aug 3, 2012
- 30,397
- 30,201
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Democrat
"Who they are" is not irrelevant. They're being quoted because they, ostensibly, have some sort of authority or greater-than-average insight. In reality, they're being paid to oppose her.
Upvote
0
- Apr 5, 2007
- 144,404
- 27,062
- 57
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Reformed
- Marital Status
- Married
And here’s the problem. There have been many threads where Harris has been criticized for wanting to fix problems she’s caused as part of the current administration. And we are told that she isn’t responsible because she’s not the president. And I have said over and over again that from the beginning, Joe Biden said that she would be involved in every decision. But my comments have been dismissed. And now you’re acting like none of that ever happened.
Upvote
0
Hans Blaster
I march with Sherman
- Mar 11, 2017
- 23,333
- 17,317
- 55
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Private
- Politics
- US-Democrat
Hardly. I believe I have been consistent in correcting people about the "powers" of the VP versus the President. Being involved in every major decision as an advisor is not the same as making the actual decision. I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise. One of the quotes from President Biden posted above speaks of VP Harris has "helping pass legislation" and that is certainly true. Whatever role she played in the negitiations with Capitol Hill leaders may not be known, but some of the legislation they (Biden & Harris) are proud of required VP Harris to use the one power she actually, explicitly has -- breaking tie votes in the Senate.
When posters put up RW media/blog claims like a recent one that VP Harris sent aid to Lebanon while ignoring NC, we did push back because even if implication about the Biden administration was true, it still wouldn't have been VP Harris that did either of those things. Statutorily, the Secretary of the Interior has more executive power than the VP. That's just the way it is. It has plagued VPs running for president for a long time. It was an issue for Dick Nixon, Hubert Humphrey, George Bush, and Al Gore. (Only one of those sitting VPs was elected to the big chair -- George Bush.)
Upvote
0
- Apr 5, 2007
- 144,404
- 27,062
- 57
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Reformed
- Marital Status
- Married
If what you say about Harris is true, there should be no need for a new way forward.
Upvote
0
Hans Blaster
I march with Sherman
- Mar 11, 2017
- 23,333
- 17,317
- 55
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Atheist
- Marital Status
- Private
- Politics
- US-Democrat
There are plenty of things that Biden/Harris would like to do but can't (available time so far, or Congressional blockage), plus there are things that are in her agenda, but weren't in his. The first parts of her "economic plan" (the one we were told for a month or so of her campaign was missing) were things that had never been articulated by Joe Biden or his campaign. (Down payment assistance for 1st time home buyers, small business start up tax breaks, etc.)
Even if it was all just one big Democratic Party master plan, there still is a need for a new slogan to go with a new party leader to stay in control of the government. (It's just marketing.)
As best I can tell these "analysts" "reaction" is basically just "woah, Biden admitted that the things we think are bad are also tied to her". The rest of the country doesn't necessarily think those policies are bad. Some of us rather like some of them.
Upvote
0
- Apr 5, 2007
- 144,404
- 27,062
- 57
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Reformed
- Marital Status
- Married
It does when the President of the United States says it does. When he says they are on the same page, he’s saying that every action was agreed upon by both of them. He said early in his administration that he would not make a decision that she disagreed with. So while the ultimate authority is his, they are both culpable for every action taken by the White House. So is this was a good way, why is a New Way needed?
Upvote
0
Similar threads
