Do you believe in the continuation of speaking in tongues and the manifestation of spiritual gifts?

[T.i.m.o.t.h.y.]

Oh..
I'd comment more on that but it'd be off topic to the thread.


Agreed. All aspects of theology and all scriptures must be consulted in order to have a fuller, richer understanding of any Bible topic. As well as having an acceptable form of presentation.

As to that, I make an apology to anyone who has read and evaluated as arguing my postings but has not voiced their evaluation.

The two descriptives of late that have called arguing what I have considered to be apologetic responses.. cause me to remember that it takes character as well as Bible knowledge to be beneficially effective.

It turns out that this thread has no restrictions against debate. Debate involves at least two persons taking an opposing view on a topic. So myself and the other poster were engaged in debate. The description given in earlier posts as arguing is incorrect.

The one poster I had engaged in debate with has gone to start a new thread that does not allow debate. It may be that I would choose to do the same sometime.

 

[rocknanchor]

What authority do you rely on? I rely on those who understand Greek.

By what I can tell, even the most careful translators of the Koine Greek have limited safeguards they use to purify, "stylistic approaches" -Robert L. Morris, Greek Scholar.

 

[T.i.m.o.t.h.y.]

By what I can tell, even the most careful translators of the Koine Greek have limited safeguards they use to purify, "stylistic approaches" -Robert L. Morris, Greek Scholar.

I was referring to the provided commentaries in Biblehub, I don't recall reading from Robert Morris, nor have I come across a topic as 'stylistic approaches', so I cannot comment on that. I can only make a guess what you might be referring to. But again I'm not going to respond based on a guess.

 

[rocknanchor]

I was referring to the provided commentaries in Biblehub, I don't recall reading from Robert Morris, nor have I come across a topic as 'stylistic approaches', so I cannot comment on that.

I was actually using your reliance on Greek to speak for all who hope for a more thorough understanding, not at all to diminish it, although, Professor Morris (a local educator, yr 2000) advises on how to use resources such as Biblehub as he did in constructing his textbook to arrive at Koiné (common) and that by intelligible varieties of classical Greek. His own syllabus, a result of such varieties with that one caveat I too use within Biblehub in hopes to cut through 'stylistic approaches' cascading effect.

So no, my point was to put this mountain of wording the OPr presented on a bit different footing.

 

[rocknanchor]

The mistake of associating the Gift with Prediction.

The Gift does not in itself convey the power to predict the future. The scripture definition in 1 Corinthians 14:3, gives no hint of foretelling. The word "prophet" simply means "one who speaks for another." It was only in medieval times that the word passed into the English language in the sense of prediction. "Etymologically it is certain that neither prescience nor prediction is implied by the term in the Hebrew, Greek, or English language." (William Smith Bible Dictionary)

Prophecy then, does not mean to foretell, but simply to speak for another. If in Prophesying a revelation is given of some existing fact quite hidden from the senses, the Word of Knowledge is operating with the simple Gift of Prophecy. If an event is predicted (an event, of course, that really comes to pass, like the dearth foretold by Agabus in Acts 11:28), then the Word of Wisdom is working in conjunction with the Gift of Prophecy.

Somehow, I have attributed 'ARBITER01' as the one who authored this thread. What I don't think I've stumbled at is as you both have commented on. And this is to be the example of one who lets scripture define scripture? I doubt folks like Professor Morris would have let a 'style' such as this slip through unnoticed.

 

[ARBITER01]

Somehow, I have attributed 'ARBITER01' as the one who authored this thread. What I don't think I've stumbled at is as you both have commented on. And this is to be the example of one who lets scripture define scripture? I doubt folks like Professor Morris would have let a 'style' such as this slip through unnoticed.

When The Holy Spirit confirms a teaching to me inside, it really doesn't matter what some "professor" has to say about it, does it?

You should pay more attention to one of my footnotes,....

Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD: Cursed is the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

 

[rocknanchor]

Thanks for the reply.

When The Holy Spirit confirms a teaching to me inside, it really doesn't matter what some "professor" has to say about it, does it?

In his case, I don’t know. I’ve lost track of the man. He may well be an integral position of leadership somewhere by now, worthy of “double honor” (1Tim 5:17). Now that is not meant to derail your 1Cor 15:10 being added to, lest you want to set out and refuse such honor.