Inmate who strangled 11-month-old will get taxpayer-funded gender surgery, judge rules

[ralliann]

Not even when that cosmetic surgery is for someone who really suffers without it, like a burn victim?

That is paid by insurance, not the state. And no it is not like a burn victim.

 

[Nithavela]

That is paid by insurance, not the state. And no it is not like a burn victim.

Who pays for the cosmetic surgery of a prisoner, if, for example, a fire breaks out in the prison and they are caught in it?

 

[Belk]

No, we are the People which employ the Goverment.

No, we are the government. We the people...

It is a matter of what we pay the government to do.....VOTE...Who voted for this?

We vote for representation. As we are regularly reminded we are not a direct democracy.

We do that by voting. The rest is for services we all use and need...Elective surgery is not that

I do not recall electing you to determine what is or is not a need.

 

[eleos1954]

It is treatment according to medical practitioners. The treatment never claimed to change every cell in the body nor does it need to.

I won't apologize for knowing what defines male and female biologically. A man is an adult male a woman is an adult female. Woman/man is what describes male/female in their adult stages in life .... it don't change the definition of male female (biologically). I can think I'm a unicorn and could have an operation to make be look like one ... but that don't make me one.

According to some Medical practitioners ... certainly not all.

Words have definitions, and changing and manipulating the meaning of words is called lying​

This is going on a lot in our society .... the changing and manipulating of words

In the past .... gender was understood as male/female

gen·der
/ˈjendər/

noun

1.
the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

So the established ideas (a formulated thought or opinion) regarding male and female has changed , the idea has changed not the biological facts regarding male/female.

It seems in today's world there is no truth .... truth is relative ... that is ... something can be true and false at the same time by some peoples standards .... I'm not of this "camp" or thinking.

The Bible, together with human logic, and experience support the notion that truth is absolute and not relative. Truth is narrow since it rejects its opposite. It is universal, unchanging and knowable. Absolute truth finds its source in God who is eternal, unchanging and sovereign over all creation.

While the words we use can certainly influence how truth is perceived and communicated, the statement "truth is defined by the words we use" is generally considered not entirely accurate because truth itself is usually understood as existing independently of language, referring to facts and reality as they are, regardless of how they are described.

Very Strange world we live in.

 

[ralliann]

No, we are the government.

No, WE are not the government. We decide who our government is and what we want them to do.

We the people...

Really then who are these representatives?

We vote for representation.

We vote for representative government

As we are regularly reminded we are not a direct democracy.

We are constitutional republic..

I do not recall electing you to determine what is or is not a need.

And I did not elect you. We are not the government. None of us voted for this.

 

[comana]

I won't apologize for knowing what defines male and female biologically. A man is an adult male a woman is an adult female. Woman/man is what describes male/female in their adult stages in life .... it don't change the definition of male female (biologically). I can think I'm a unicorn and could have an operation to make be look like one ... but that don't make me one.

According to some Medical practitioners ... certainly not all.

Words have definitions, and changing and manipulating the meaning of words is called lying​

This is going on a lot in our society .... the changing and manipulating of words

In the past .... gender was understood as male/female

gen·der
/ˈjendər/

noun

1.
the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

So the established ideas (a formulated thought or opinion) regarding male and female has changed , the idea has changed not the biological facts regarding male/female.

It seems in today's world there is no truth .... truth is relative ... that is ... something can be true and false at the same time by some peoples standards .... I'm not of this "camp" or thinking.

The Bible, together with human logic, and experience support the notion that truth is absolute and not relative. Truth is narrow since it rejects its opposite. It is universal, unchanging and knowable. Absolute truth finds its source in God who is eternal, unchanging and sovereign over all creation.

While the words we use can certainly influence how truth is perceived and communicated, the statement "truth is defined by the words we use" is generally considered not entirely accurate because truth itself is usually understood as existing independently of language, referring to facts and reality as they are, regardless of how they are described.

Very Strange world we live in.

Word meanings have changed in the past and will in the future. Things change, words change, societies change. It’s a fact of human life.

 

[Belk]

No, WE are not the government. We decide who our government is and what we want them to do.

Yes, WE are the government.

Really then who are these representatives?

We. The . People.

We vote for representative government

We are constitutional republic..

And I did not elect you. We are not the government. None of us voted for this.

Irrelevant if you voted for it. As pointed out we are a representative democracy and we do not need to vote for any particular item to follow the rule of law.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I'm guessing this person has never had Testosterone blockers, since this person was a kid. From the picture this person looks like a larger male. So, when this very dangerous person gets gender surgery. Then this very dangerous person will sue, to be allowed to go to a women's prisons, and win. When this very dangerous person gets mad at a female. Since the very dangerous persons body is physically male. Imagine the damage, that can be done to any woman in prison,that this very dangerous person gets mad at. BTW, this very dangerous person gets 50 years in prison. So , it seems like a waste of tax payers money. Itseems wrong to me.

 

[ralliann]

Yes, WE are the government.


We. The . People.

Irrelevant if you voted for it. As pointed out we are a representative democracy and we do not need to vote for any particular item to follow the rule of law.

Oh so now we are our representatives? Yikes.

 

[comana]

Oh so now we are our representatives? Yikes.

We refers to “We the people” Do we not elect our representatives from the people?

 

[Bradskii]

... you can't change every cell in your body (science).

Glad you let us know that so we can make an informed decision.

 

[Bradskii]

It is a matter of what we pay the government to do.....VOTE.

Where I come from, it's us that votes. Generally for the party that has the policies that most align with my positions. Do you really think that when you vote for someone they must do everything that you want? That's unusual.

 

[Bradskii]

No, WE are not the government. We decide who our government is and what we want them to do.

Sounds like you want a direct democracy.

We vote for representative government. We are constitutional republic..

Oh, sorry. You still want to keep the current version.

 

[eleos1954]

It is treatment according to medical practitioners. The treatment never claimed to change every cell in the body nor does it need to.

by some medical practitioners ... not all medical practitioners ... treatment for a medical issue? Is it a Disease or disorder, or something else?

A disorder is a group of symptoms that disrupts your normal body functions but does not have a known cause, while a disease is a medical condition with an identifiable cause.

Debatable whether the "treatments" are causing or furthering a disorder or solving one. Have seen some that transitioned and now de-transitioning and some of which will never be the same as before they transitioned because of irreversible surgeries and/or drug treatments.

So ... were these people misdiagnosed? Some are claiming this to be the case and law suits are ensuing.

Biological life is governed by functional norms. The functional norm for reproducing is male and female. This norm is assigned at conception. Debatable whether functional norms in this regard should be overridden or ignored.

We live in very strange times.