Inmate who strangled 11-month-old will get taxpayer-funded gender surgery, judge rules

[Valletta]

The local ACLU, however, cheered the ruling as a victory for the LGBT community.
“Today marks a significant victory for transgender individuals in Indiana’s prisons,” Legal Director Ken Falk said. “Denying evidence-based medical care to incarcerated people simply because they are transgender is unconstitutional. We are pleased that the Court agreed.”

Inmate who strangled 11-month-old will get taxpayer-funded gender surgery, judge rules

The inmate previously sued to reverse an Indiana law denying transgender people certain medical procedures while incarcerated.

cbsaustin.com

Next expect him to petition to get sent to a women's prison where there will be more victims. This is wokeness. The government should be using the money to find the hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied minors they have lost track of, a large number of whom are being trafficked.

 

[Bradskii]

The local ACLU, however, cheered the ruling as a victory for the LGBT community.

That some people need treatment to prevent possible harm seems to be a given. That those people are incarcerated doesn't exclude them. I'm really not interested in that you don't agree with said treatment. I'd argue against the original act.

But then there's a decision to make. Will the act apply to all? Well, it has to. You can't exclude some people you don't like. It's the same argument I'd use when I'd say 'I really don't like what you are saying, but free speech is important. So I am going to fight to make sure you can say it'.

So help me, you wouldn't want me anywhere near a guy who murdered an 11 month old baby if I was doing the surgery. I would have to excuse myself. But I would imagine that some of the inmates in Branchville won't be so reticent now he's suggested he wants something done to his genitals.

But through clenched teeth I'd argue for the repeal of the act.

 

[Nithavela]

I'm not quite sure what the gripe is, here.

That an inmate gets this kind of surgery?
That it's paid by the state?
That he in particular with his conviction of a heinous crime gets this kind of surgery?
That it's going to be a slippery slope that will end up with him raping his way through a women's prison?

If the gripe is that this is too expensive for the taxpayer, I'd suggest just shooting everyone convicted of a crime. 9 mm bullets are far cheaper than housing someone in a Texas prison.

If the gripe is that prisoners with heinous crimes get this kind of surgery, I'd suggest changing the law where people with especially egregious crimes can be sentenced to "Extra Prison", which is basically just a hole in the ground where prisoners are thrown into and sometimes fed, like medieval oubliettes.

 

[Hammster]

And the left supports it. No surprise here.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

The local ACLU, however, cheered the ruling as a victory for the LGBT community.
“Today marks a significant victory for transgender individuals in Indiana’s prisons,” Legal Director Ken Falk said. “Denying evidence-based medical care to incarcerated people simply because they are transgender is unconstitutional. We are pleased that the Court agreed.”

Inmate who strangled 11-month-old will get taxpayer-funded gender surgery, judge rules

The inmate previously sued to reverse an Indiana law denying transgender people certain medical procedures while incarcerated.

cbsaustin.com

Next expect him to petition to get sent to a women's prison where there will be more victims. This is wokeness. The government should be using the money to find the hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied minors they have lost track of, a large number of whom are being trafficked.

This person most likely has severe dysphoria, experiencing untenable abuse, and needs to go through the transition in order to be moved to a safer environment.

 

[Yttrium]

If the inmate is diagnosed with gender dysphoria, then the inmate needs to be treated for it. Somehow. Being in prison, the state pays for the treatment. I'm okay with that.

If the inmate hasn't been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, then forget about it. I'm against it.

 

[eleos1954]

The local ACLU, however, cheered the ruling as a victory for the LGBT community.
“Today marks a significant victory for transgender individuals in Indiana’s prisons,” Legal Director Ken Falk said. “Denying evidence-based medical care to incarcerated people simply because they are transgender is unconstitutional. We are pleased that the Court agreed.”

Inmate who strangled 11-month-old will get taxpayer-funded gender surgery, judge rules

The inmate previously sued to reverse an Indiana law denying transgender people certain medical procedures while incarcerated.

cbsaustin.com

Next expect him to petition to get sent to a women's prison where there will be more victims. This is wokeness. The government should be using the money to find the hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied minors they have lost track of, a large number of whom are being trafficked.

Nearly every cell in our body contains pairs of each of our chromosomes, and these pairs are identical in all but one case: that of our sex chromosomes. Males typically have one X and one Y sex chromosome, while females typically have two X chromosomes.

You can't change every cell in your body!

People who think otherwise are science deniers.

 

[Bradskii]

People who think otherwise are science deniers.

The thread is about whether people who are incarcerated should be allowed medical treatment if, in the opinion of a medical practitioner, it is valid for the health of the prisoner. Whether you agree or not with the treatment is irrelevant. The point is whether we should discriminate against certain people because of the appalling crime that they have committed.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Nearly every cell in our body contains pairs of each of our chromosomes, and these pairs are identical in all but one case: that of our sex chromosomes. Males typically have one X and one Y sex chromosome, while females typically have two X chromosomes.

I like how it says "typically" and not "exclusively."

You can't change every cell in your body!

People who think otherwise are science deniers.

Nobody's trying to "change every cell."

 

[eleos1954]

Whether you agree or not with the treatment is irrelevant.

Whether you agree or not with the treatment is irrelevant.

It is relevant .... it's not "treatment" .... you can't change every cell in your body (science). So, no ... not for it because it is not treatment ... in prison or otherwise.

 

[ralliann]

I'm not quite sure what the gripe is, here.

Really? Then you pay for it...

That an inmate gets this kind of surgery?
That it's paid by the state?

The state does not have it's own money...However, those who see this as ok, should voluntarily pay for it. That could go like abortion, let the voters decide. Those voters that accept this can pool their money to the state to distribute for these surgeries. No gripe at all. It is your money after all.

 

[comana]

It is relevant .... it's not "treatment" .... you can't change every cell in your body (science). So, no ... not for it because it is not treatment ... in prison or otherwise.

It is treatment according to medical practitioners. The treatment never claimed to change every cell in the body nor does it need to.

 

[Belk]

It is relevant .... it's not "treatment" ....

The medical community disagrees. This is the best treatment they have found so far.

you can't change every cell in your body (science). So, no ... not for it because it is not treatment ... in prison or otherwise.

Yes, you can, not that it is relevant since the only person claiming that is a requirement is you.

What is CRISPR? A bioengineer explains

Stanley Qi explains how gene editing works, why CRISPR is such an important tool, and how it could be used in the future – including new developments in altering the chemistry of DNA instead of the DNA sequence itself.

news.stanford.edu

 

[Belk]

Really? Then you pay for it...

We do, through taxes

The state does not have it's own money

The state both has its own currency (Printed by the federal government ) and it's own revenue (taxes).

...However, those who see this as ok, should voluntarily pay for it. That could go like abortion, let the voters decide. Those voters that accept this can pool their money to the state to distribute for these surgeries. No gripe at all. It is your money after all.

Only if I get to decide what my taxes will and will not pay for as well. Otherwise you get to vote the same as everyone else.

 

[Nithavela]

Really? Then you pay for it...

Do you always pay for things when you don't understand them?

 

[ralliann]

We do, through taxes

The state both has its own currency (Printed by the federal government ) and it's own revenue (taxes).

Only if I get to decide what my taxes will and will not pay for as well. Otherwise you get to vote the same as everyone else.

We do, through taxes

Not voluntarily. to everyone.

The state both has its own currency (Printed by the federal government ) and it's own revenue (taxes).

No it is our money paying for the government to work for us.

Only if I get to decide what my taxes will and will not pay for as well.

Ok. But public services for all need to be paid by all.

Otherwise you get to vote the same as everyone else.

When it comes to superficial elective medical treatment, we should have a choice. You want to pay for elective cosmetic surgery? Your choice.

 

[ralliann]

Do you always pay for things when you don't understand them?

I elect not to pay for cosmetic surgery.

 

[Belk]

Not voluntarily. to everyone.

No it is our money paying for the government to work for us.

We are the government.

Ok. But public services for all need to be paid by all.

Which is it? Do we get to pick and choose or do YOU get to determine who is required to pay for what?

When it comes to superficial elective medical treatment, we should have a choice. You want to pay for elective cosmetic surgery? Your choice.

Why should you have a choice? Looks to me you just want special treatment for the items you disagree with.

 

[Nithavela]

I elect not to pay for cosmetic surgery.

Not even when that cosmetic surgery is for someone who really suffers without it, like a burn victim?

 

[ralliann]

We are the government.

No, we are the People which employ the Goverment.

Which is it? Do we get to pick and choose or do YOU get to determine who is required to pay for what?

It is a matter of what we pay the government to do.....VOTE...Who voted for this?

Why should you have a choice? Looks to me you just want special treatment for the items you disagree with.

We do that by voting. The rest is for services we all use and need...Elective surgery is not that