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Christian male 38 trying to get to know a 32 year old woman; is this parental behavior normal? This is my first actual dating experience

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My apologies as I am pressed for time, this message will be short. But, I think I can cover my points. I do not mean to come across as abrupt. It is just time constraints making for a short message.

Is it normal? No. No it is not. Not even a tiny bit normal in western culture.

Two things you shared struck me.
You said..
(She's a Taekwondo teacher 4th degree black belt)
..and you said she also teaches. I have some experience in the martial arts (although it was years ago). EVERY black belt teacher I ever met regardless of gender or the martial art they practiced was a confident person. I am not saying she isn't being truthful about this. But, based on her behavior and her parent's behavior it just doesn't line up with her being a 4th degree black belt. Also, let's assume she is a 4th degree black belt. What are her parents so afraid of then? If you attempted anything she did not want you to do, she should be more than capable of stopping you. This just doesn't line up with everything else. In fact, it makes everything else seem even more strange.

You indicated her dad said..
....He goes on to say I want whatever the Lord wants, and I don't want to stop anything, but it's going to be up to her....

This was fairly early in your post. I had not read the rest of you post. But this sentence made warning bells and red flags go off in my head. As I read more those warnings seemed more accurate. How to put this.... I will say it this way... I think her dad may have convinced himself that what he wants is what the Lord wants in this area and will listen only to himself. If so, it may be impossible to convince him otherwise.
 
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That night, it was not like a normal feeling. It was a terrible uneasy feeling upon my soul. I couldn't rest that night/morning for about six-seven hours Someone said I shouldn't ask her, but I tried to ask about it twice. First time she ignored the question and second she just said everyone was just very upset that night and she dropped it. I know something happened that night/morning. What exactly I don't know, but I definitely don't want to feel it again. At this point, not much can surprise me.
This sounds pretty similar to what it felt like when something in the spiritual realm told me my gf would die in childbirth.

In hindsight now that deception was mutual and was the reason she broke contact, then over the next few days i couldn't sleep at night and i ended up driving to her house without knowing where she lived.

A man comes out stammering miss pronouncing her name 3 different ways saying he doesn't know her. Somehow i recognized his voice and i knew he was lying.

A lot more stuff happened later the rest of the story is pretty unbelievable.
 
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I don't want to ever feel that again. I have never felt anything like that before, and I don't want to again. I know a few people who can feel things, and even I have felt things sometimes. From a person I'm suppose to talk with or even recently Including her heart a few days ago, and I told her I felt her going back and forth then her feeling a peace. She said you are spot on.

That night, it was not like a normal feeling. It was a terrible uneasy feeling upon my soul. I couldn't rest that night/morning for about six-seven hours Someone said I shouldn't ask her, but I tried to ask about it twice. First time she ignored the question and second she just said everyone was just very upset that night and she dropped it. I know something happened that night/morning. What exactly I don't know, but I definitely don't want to feel it again. At this point, not much can surprise me. Been truly trying to fight for her, but I'm about the end of that. It's up to God fully now.
If you are having these issues just pretty much upon the initial meeting, I do not hold out much hope for a happy future. I don’t care how anyone tries to doll it up. Look at the grown siblings still at home. It’s just creepy.
 
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If you are having these issues just pretty much upon the initial meeting, I do not hold out much hope for a happy future. I don’t care how anyone tries to doll it up. Look at the grown siblings still at home. It’s just creepy.
This is one of those things that can go either way.

You stand idly by and find out 10 years later there has been a murder suicide and the woman was pregnant with the other brothers child..

You might.. just might be slightly affected by the advice you gave. (And all the others who say run as fast as you can )

I dont think there is much hope for that family without outside intervention.
 
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It's understandable why you're interested given your similarities and chastity. But it takes more than to create a healthy union as you're discovering. Children learn what they live and some beginnings are better than others. But the spouse bears the brunt of it good or bad. Whatever that involves will be in addition to the marital responsibilities, children, other relationships and your work.

When you look at it from that perspective you may find it's too much to handle in light of the rest. Ministry brings its own pressures and demands and experiencing the same from loved ones may be too much. When I received my calling and understood my purpose I sifted my suitors through that reality.

It didn't matter how much he loved the Lord. How attractive he was or successful. Or how much desired me. What mattered most was whether he was an asset or liability towards its fulfillment. Because God isn't the author of confusion. He won't bring me a man who'd stand in my way or make me fail. I'm working for Him.

That helped to recalibrate my mind and heart. When I met prospects I asked them to paint me picture of the life they had in mind for themselves and their future spouse. I didn't want to influence their answer with my response and invited them to speak candidly and I listened.

Very, very true, many times when I was younger I would meet someone and after sharing my dreams, hopes and even the possibility of missionary work talk too, that took a very quick turn with whom I was talking with online. The idea of going somewhere as a missionary pretty much ended the conversations by itself. Which I couldn't understand at all when I was younger.
I spent years praying for my husband and everything connected to him from head to toe. He recognized what he'd found immediately as did I and it was a little frightening. We had so much in common. A similar upbringing, disposition and interests. He had a passion for my calling and professional experience in that industry. The things I struggled to do he was good at and vice versa. I remember looking at the screen in awe.

Missional pairings rely on peace and agreement to function. You can't have a lot of strife because it threatens the bigger things you're working towards. You need mutual respect and admiration to stay the course. And oftentimes your example inspires others and the Lord uses you in that capacity..

Thank you so much for sharing and I completely understand that! I remember starting to pray for a wife I believe around 19. I have had a lot of hardships in my life, and a lot of difficulties that few are able to understand or even care to try to understand. Over the years my prayers continued to change, and finally only I'd say earlier this year my prayers changed very dramatically. The things I prayed for, from what I asked the Lord to change in my heart, how I asked the Lord to be victorious in every single corner and nook of my heart, mind and life. That it would be pleasing before His eyes. To new knowledge I had learned that was in my mind; praying for Job's covenant eyes for his wife, but I asked that it wouldn't just be my eyes, but all of my emotions and mind for her. That I would put Father God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit first and then she'd be second and vice versa. Someone who would want to live a holy life with me. Whether we had little or a lot, as long as we were glorifying God in all we do. That our marriage would reflect Jesus in all we do. That just by seeing us, not even having heard our testimony people would want to learn about God. I fully understand not everyone wants that to live life to the degree I'm wanting to live it. Keeping a holy life, marriage and home isn't an easy job.

I prayed I'd finally be accepted for who I was, and that I'd accept her for who she was. (Often times I'd start talking with someone, and I knew almost right away I couldn't be myself, or I'd have to accept things/views in which didn't match up with the life I wanted to live for the Lord.) Soon afterwards these people would leave. I feel no one really looks at the marble God is chiseling into the image of His Son, but at what the statue is they can get immediately.

She's the first person who accepted me for who I was. My severe social anxiety didn't bother her, even the fact I'm without a car at the moment didn't bother her. She enjoyed reading the Holy Bible with me, she was interested in going to church with me, our interests from hobbies to music to how we wanted a home one day all aligned. I believe the relationship truly was helping both of us in different ways, her with her confidence and me with my social anxiety; the edifying was clearly there and the helping of each other. It was to such a degree in one of her emails she stated

"And what a blessing time after time that we agree and dream of similar things or even downright identical!"

I had use to pray for a wife that had never even been kissed. I actually had started giving up on that, and thought maybe I was asking for too much in this age. When I ended up finding up she hadn't kissed, my heart rejoiced to God; one of many things it was rejoicing for about with her. That the Lord had brought me. I have been so grateful for her in my life. I'm on several dating sites, but my heart felt not to look anymore anywhere. Only to focus on her. The kissing was one of the few things we had talked about on boundaries. I asked when she thought someone should kiss, and she said not until marriage and I said I agree. Let's wait until marriage to kiss on the lips. I have wanted to have a testimony of holiness and purity for not only my children one day, but also for others to read about.
I weighed in for that reason and shared personal tidbits for your edification. There's a way to go about it that's loving and considerate as I demonstrated in my response. If you weren't called to ministry and wanted to persist and were prepared to roll up your sleeves if required I might encourage it.

But I can't do that in good faith in light of your calling. Evangelism is a lot of work and time away. Many times wives assist their husbands through teaching, mentoring and hospitality. The woman you described isn't prepared for that. She doesn't have the agency required to do so.

I definitely want someone to be able to go at this with me. I need a partner, whether it's ministry or evangelistic outreach. I have asked and prayed for that partner. Finding this woman just seems impossible. It's one reason I felt that it has to be her. I felt such peace when I was with her, and she also always mentioned feeling peace with me. It's a peace I hadn't ever had around another human being.
Women like her usually marry patriarchal men and become stay-at-home wives and raise their children. That's their life. Breaking the mold would require a lot of psychological and emotional wrangling coupled with a lot of prayer. She may struggle with guilt afterwards.

Your wife needs to be in a better place if she's going to walk with a man in an office. You'll have a lot of challenges in the spirit realm she'll need to stand against in prayer. She can't be falling apart. That's not being cruel or requiring perfection. It's recognizing what the role involves and making an honest assessment.
No I completely understand what you're saying. Definitely not being taken as cruel at all. It's the reason I've come here, for I can take in the advice and opinions to help me through this. God has given us all wisdom and different experiences for the edification and encouragement of each other. I appreciate your time and thorough thoughtfulness, kindness, openness and honesty to me. Though I have nothing to offer back, especially not in the condition my hearts feel. I greatly appreciate it!
Leave it with the Lord and move forward. If He wants to redeem the connection He will. But don't close your heart to other opportunities. He's not done with you yet.

God Bless. :yellowheart:

~bella
Been having a really hard time praying since this has happened. Trying to, truly, truly am trying to. I don't think at this moment anyone would want to open a door to me in this condition. At this point in life, it's getting very hard to open that door. May you though, be blessed by the Lord for your thorough kindness to me as just a brother in the body of Christ.
 
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If at 31 her parents are still dictating her life you dodged a bullit. She could be a 12th degree black belt, emotionally she is a 3 year old.
'From what I know' it isn't just her, but her siblings too and they are each black belts. She's the only one that is a 4th degree and does tournaments. I agree I don't think parents are still supposed to be telling any adult child how and what she can do whether they live at home or not, if it doesn't affect the home etc. I tried to convey this kindly to her but she stated she didn't like when I contradict her parents. I don't think she's ever known anything but what they tell her. I believe it's highly emphasized on the honor thy father and thy mother.
 
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The family sounds like they are new to this culture.

FWIW, even if no other problems come up, I think you will have an In-Law problem, if you marry her. But other problems are sure to surface.

My guess: She will not fully commit to you, but her loyalty will remain with her parents, and they will remain super-protective and super-controlling. In the early Old Testament times, that may not have been such a conflict, from what I have read, but nowadays can be a very serious problem. You are heading down a perilous path.

Also, bear in mind that marrying someone from another culture brings its own perils. Believe me I know about this!

That being said, it still might be the right thing to do. Look what Jacob went through to finally marry Rachel.

Let me add a humorous but relevant saying. "He marries her, expecting her not to change. She marries him, expecting him to change. She does, he doesn't." Now, let's add to that mix, super-controlling parents. Yeah, be scared!
I had an online friend ask if they were not from here or what is their background. They are Caucasian like me, and they met in Chicago, but been where I live here for over 32 years. 4 miles away from me. The story of Jacob and Rachel does feel relevant here. I'm truthfully not even sure they want their daughters married. The limited interactions they appear to have seem to stop it. Most of her stuff is work, work and work related. Despite her having very flexible hours and a good amount of free time. During the meeting with her parents I mentioned when I seen her profile and her mom asked me some questions about that. Like what was on her profile, etc. Someone brought up they were surprised they allowed her to have a dating profile. I checked soon after they told me that, and the profile was sure enough gone. During all my years of praying, I never thought about praying about in-laws accepting me. That has changed now. I always thought everyone would just be happy for their daughter/son, as my family was happy for me getting to know her.
 
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Many times, "signs" are not from the Lord. Many times, it simply came out of our own heart, created by our own longings and desires.

It can sometimes lead us into trouble.
True, I don't believe in signs really. Though I don't believe it's impossible. However, I also don't believe in coincidences or luck. Certain things are too eerie with her and me. Just a small example, but we were both taught by the same Tae kwon do master as children, etc. My mother also is able to feel things, and pointed her out when she was on television being interviewed when she opened her studio,(I pretty much laughed that off and ignored it.), my mom advised I should try or visit a different church than the one I ended up staying with, which happened to be the same church this woman goes to. When the name was laid on my heart, it was very peacefully laid there. I hadn't ever felt a name before. Looking for signs can lead to many troubles, especially since it rarely is from God.
 
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If you are having these issues just pretty much upon the initial meeting, I do not hold out much hope for a happy future. I don’t care how anyone tries to doll it up. Look at the grown siblings still at home. It’s just creepy.
That also bothers me. I don't understand why they are still at home. 'To my knowledge', none of them have any issues. I know both of the brothers work with the woman I was trying to get to know.
 
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This is one of those things that can go either way.

You stand idly by and find out 10 years later there has been a murder suicide and the woman was pregnant with the other brothers child..

You might.. just might be slightly affected by the advice you gave. (And all the others who say run as fast as you can )

I dont think there is much hope for that family without outside intervention.
I do agree, and this has been on my heart. I've tried looking for advice on emotional abuse through google, etc, but I couldn't really find anything except for abuse for adult children against their parents, not vice versa. Someone else also brought up the older sister. They said they couldn't find anything about her. It is one reason why I'm struggling to let this go. I am worried not just about this woman, but all of her siblings. I truly don't know how that intervention could or will come. I know God had a purpose in me meeting her, but I just don't know what to do now, because it is constantly on the back of my mind.
 
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If she does get free from her parents . . . would she know how to handle being free??
That also concerns me. If she discusses everything with them. How would her, or even her siblings know what to do. When I brought up talking with a neutral local church, she said her parents know her best.
 
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Don’t you find it a problem that the father lied and you told his daughter he lied when you did contact him and she basically ignores that fact? I find that highly disturbing. Huge red flags from the onset. I repeat: Run! The poor 30+ woman seems brainwashed and conditioned to live in fear of her parents. I mean, look at the other siblings… there is something very wrong there.
The dad has contracted himself several times. He would say I want what is best for you, and what is best for my daughter, and I don't want to stand in the way of that. If that is what God wants. Then of course, well I will discuss it with her and my wife first. The woman was already wanting to go to church with me, because she said she normally doesn't get to be in the actual church but in the nursery. She said her dad didn't want gossip and rumors to start the first time I asked after our last in person meeting with him in his vehicle watching. Then the second time her mom would probably have to come if I did go. I do think the dad probably wasn't telling the truth, because the voice mail was clearly left, but maybe he didn't see it. I try to see the best in everyone. I doubt someone goes an entire day without checking it. I do believe she's conditioned very deeply, and I'd imagine therapy will be needed. I find so many red flags here now it's hard to not find a flag at this point.
 
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Very, very true, many times when I was younger I would meet someone and after sharing my dreams, hopes and even the possibility of missionary work talk too, that took a very quick turn with whom I was talking with online. The idea of going somewhere as a missionary pretty much ended the conversations by itself. Which I couldn't understand at all when I was younger.

I think it's important to keep your calling in mind and remember the probability of snares and distractions being laid in your path to hinder its fulfillment. They're not all diabolical. This situation is very involved. That can't be denied and the likelihood of resolution after marriage is questionable. It may always be a thorn. Can you live with that?

She's the first person who accepted me for who I was. My severe social anxiety didn't bother her, even the fact I'm without a car at the moment didn't bother her. She enjoyed reading the Holy Bible with me, she was interested in going to church with me, our interests from hobbies to music to how we wanted a home one day all aligned. I believe the relationship truly was helping both of us in different ways, her with her confidence and me with my social anxiety; the edifying was clearly there and the helping of each other. It was to such a degree in one of her emails she stated

Can you see why that was so in hindsight? You had struggles and so did she. If that wasn't so would you feel the same? Or would you look at the situation through different eyes and seek the company of someone better suited as a wife with a loving family?

Your anxiety shouldn't compel you to make an unfavorable connection. Pray against the spirit of rejection and infirmity and ask for healing and restoration.

I had use to pray for a wife that had never even been kissed. I actually had started giving up on that, and thought maybe I was asking for too much in this age.

The person I met was on a secular site. He's several years my junior and I have an adult daughter. He was the one who pushed for the connection because the likelihood of its occurrence was rare. Quality companions still exist. You have to know how to spot them.

You found a virgin but she needs help and her family is a mess. My companion didn't get the same. He found someone who could step into that role from the onset. He had a challenging situation at work I helped him navigate and I encouraged him to get a side hustle too. He shared his dream job a year later and I told him to write the person although there wasn't an opening and year later he was with the company.

Now he lives in a different state and his tenant is leaving the condo and it's the pandemic. I told him him how to handle it and he found someone in a week or two. I told him about him about crypto a few years ago and he ended up teaching a class on blockchain and accomplishing his financial goals.

He who finds wife finds a good thing. I'm that and more. I'm his COO. As a man you understand those words. He tells me what he wants and I make it happen and you need the same. You need a level of autonomy to be a minister's wife.

He doesn't have time to pat your hand and whisper there there. There's a work to be done. Most of your time will be spent putting out fires and comforting her. I've been through a missionary prep program and supported one in Paris. She's not ready for that life. If you allow your feelings to delude you they will.

That doesn't mean she can't be a good spouse. But she's not the woman a man called to ministry shoukd choose. She will distract him from the work because of her problems.

I appreciate your time and thorough thoughtfulness, kindness, openness and honesty to me. Though I have nothing to offer back, especially not in the condition my hearts feel. I greatly appreciate it!

Been having a really hard time praying since this has happened. Trying to, truly, truly am trying to. I don't think at this moment anyone would want to open a door to me in this condition. At this point in life, it's getting very hard to open that door. May you though, be blessed by the Lord for your thorough kindness to me as just a brother in the body of Christ.

The emotions you feel are related to acceptance. You've been on the outside looking in. Don't allow this to progress. You'll only deepen your hurt.

~bella
 
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My apologies as I am pressed for time, this message will be short. But, I think I can cover my points. I do not mean to come across as abrupt. It is just time constraints making for a short message.

Is it normal? No. No it is not. Not even a tiny bit normal in western culture.

Two things you shared struck me.
You said..

..and you said she also teaches. I have some experience in the martial arts (although it was years ago). EVERY black belt teacher I ever met regardless of gender or the martial art they practiced was a confident person. I am not saying she isn't being truthful about this. But, based on her behavior and her parent's behavior it just doesn't line up with her being a 4th degree black belt. Also, let's assume she is a 4th degree black belt. What are her parents so afraid of then? If you attempted anything she did not want you to do, she should be more than capable of stopping you. This just doesn't line up with everything else. In fact, it makes everything else seem even more strange.

No apologies needed Sir/ma'am, taking a moment of your time to even read/reply is greatly appreciated! I'm thankful for what I receive.

Very true, I agree, it doesn't make sense for a martial arts instructor not to be confident. I believe I had brought this up to her more than once. I was like I know you can beat me up if you needed to. I think I even joked once, I was like if someone attacks us, I'll defend you, but after I get knocked out take care of them for us, and when I wake up tell me it was me. I think it was along of the lines, she only feels confident when she is teaching. It's like the only environment she feels confident in. That also though didn't really add up much to me, whether teaching or not you should be confident in the studio and out of the studio in your ability. She teaches classes on self-defense/anti-bullying too. I tried to always encourage her in her ability. I think outside of the studio she has little confidence. I'm not sure how well trained she is, but she does have the black belt certifications and the videos of her in black belt divisions and I have seen her trophies in the background one time. I've also had my ride once say if someone had to look at you two and pick which was the black belt I think they would probably say it's you. And, I'm underweight right now.

Whether or not the brothers are fully are, I'm not sure, I know I joked with her parents at the end of the meeting that maybe I could see her at the studio, and she could throw me to welcome me, and then her brothers also and her mom asked the brothers throw? And she said no, I don't allow them to throw. I thought that was a little strange. Since they are also teachers there.
You indicated her dad said..


This was fairly early in your post. I had not read the rest of you post. But this sentence made warning bells and red flags go off in my head. As I read more those warnings seemed more accurate. How to put this.... I will say it this way... I think her dad may have convinced himself that what he wants is what the Lord wants in this area and will listen only to himself. If so, it may be impossible to convince him otherwise.
I think this is pretty spot on actually. There was one other brother in Christ who mentioned this. That he felt he was almost, if not fully placing himself into the position of all knowing. Even if I did get a second meeting to go over the Holy Bible study it would have never changed his mind. It really is a helpless situation. That only God is going to be able to intervene in.
 
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What am I missing? Please any advice is appreciated.
We need to trust God to work it all out for us if it is His plan and His will. Lean not on your own understanding.
 
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The dad has contracted himself several times. He would say I want what is best for you, and what is best for my daughter, and I don't want to stand in the way of that. If that is what God wants. Then of course, well I will discuss it with her and my wife first. The woman was already wanting to go to church with me, because she said she normally doesn't get to be in the actual church but in the nursery. She said her dad didn't want gossip and rumors to start the first time I asked after our last in person meeting with him in his vehicle watching. Then the second time her mom would probably have to come if I did go. I do think the dad probably wasn't telling the truth, because the voice mail was clearly left, but maybe he didn't see it. I try to see the best in everyone. I doubt someone goes an entire day without checking it. I do believe she's conditioned very deeply, and I'd imagine therapy will be needed. I find so many red flags here now it's hard to not find a flag at this point.
This is no way to connect with a potential mate. You need to step away from this situation. It appears to me that none of the grown children could possibly get married and forge a life of their own with these unrealistic expectations and behavior from the parents. One is pushing 40 and still with mom and dad? Etc. Seriously, run. Do not become manipulated by this highly unhealthy behavior masquerading as Christianity. Pray for them and step out of that situation. :praying:
 
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'From what I know' it isn't just her, but her siblings too and they are each black belts. She's the only one that is a 4th degree and does tournaments. I agree I don't think parents are still supposed to be telling any adult child how and what she can do whether they live at home or not, if it doesn't affect the home etc. I tried to convey this kindly to her but she stated she didn't like when I contradict her parents. I don't think she's ever known anything but what they tell her. I believe it's highly emphasized on the honor thy father and thy mother.


Genesis 2:24
That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
It does not say that a man shall leave his father and mother and they shall both cleave to her parents, that has nothing to do with honor.

Children honor their parents by, as Paul says;
1 Cor 13:11
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

The best way to honor our parents is to grow up. Be responsible. Provide for our new family in every way Physically, emotionally, Spiritually.
When children become adults they are no longer dependents. They are a new unit.

1 Tim 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

We are spirits living in a body. Perhaps this is why Christ asked Who is my mother...
To convey that our life is spiritual not physical.
John 4:24
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

1 Cor 11:11
Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

However you split the responsibilities is up to the two of you, You are one in marriage responsible to each other not some third party other than God.
 
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That also concerns me. If she discusses everything with them. How would her, or even her siblings know what to do. When I brought up talking with a neutral local church, she said her parents know her best.
Do her parents know her? If she is growing in Jesus, she us changing into a person they have not met, yet. And she will discover what God is preparing for her to do.

And is she obviously helping you to grow in Christ and how God has us relating as His family?

And are you and her parents blessing one another to learn God's word and grow together in Jesus?

The answer to these questions is the same as the question of if these are healthy people for you to be involved with closely . . . versus ones to reach for Jesus while you make sure you share with mature Christians who are wholesome for you and not mainly cause for confusion.
 
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I think it's important to keep your calling in mind and remember the probability of snares and distractions being laid in your path to hinder its fulfillment. They're not all diabolical. This situation is very involved. That can't be denied and the likelihood of resolution after marriage is questionable. It may always be a thorn. Can you live with that?
I have tried to keep that at the forefront of my mind. As I've gotten older the possibilities of finding a helpmate has diminished so greatly. I have definitely run across people who have caused me to stumble and even put my fire out that I had for God. Some that were obvious, and some that were not so obvious until after the fact. I don't see why it always has to be a thorn. I feel as if everything in my life has a thorn in it. I know therapy would be required, and I'd be there for her through that.
Can you see why that was so in hindsight? You had struggles and so did she. If that wasn't so would you feel the same? Or would you look at the situation through different eyes and seek the company of someone better suited as a wife with a loving family?
I honestly didn't know about the parental issue until after that night. She had told me that she was their favorite child and not to worry about anything they will love you just like they love me. I had prayed that whoever I was going to be with would have siblings and that they would accept me for me too, but never thought about praying for the parents to accept me. I thought the parents would be happy with who their child loved and was happy with and embrace them. I went into that basically four hour meeting as if it was my own family. I would definitely prefer to be loved by my wife's family versus unloved and hated basically.
Your anxiety shouldn't compel you to make an unfavorable connection. Pray against the spirit of rejection and infirmity and ask for healing and restoration.
I agree it shouldn't, but no one gives you a chance anymore. Everyone wants everything perfect or they move on; you don't even get a chance to talk with them in person. Out of twenty years this was the first one that I knew truly in my heart wanted to see me, spend time with me and enjoyed getting to know me. One that I truly knew was praying for me, and I was praying steadfastly for her. I do need to pray for that. Right now just praying at all is extremely hard.
The person I met was on a secular site. He's several years my junior and I have an adult daughter. He was the one who pushed for the connection because the likelihood of its occurrence was rare. Quality companions still exist. You have to know how to spot them.

You found a virgin but she needs help and her family is a mess. My companion didn't get the same. He found someone who could step into that role from the onset. He had a challenging situation at work I helped him navigate and I encouraged him to get a side hustle too. He shared his dream job a year later and I told him to write the person although there wasn't an opening and year later he was with the company.

Now he lives in a different state and his tenant is leaving the condo and it's the pandemic. I told him him how to handle it and he found someone in a week or two. I told him about him about crypto a few years ago and he ended up teaching a class on blockchain and accomplishing his financial goals.

He who finds wife finds a good thing. I'm that and more. I'm his COO. As a man you understand those words. He tells me what he wants and I make it happen and you need the same. You need a level of autonomy to be a minister's wife.

He doesn't have time to pat your hand and whisper there there. There's a work to be done. Most of your time will be spent putting out fires and comforting her. I've been through a missionary prep program and supported one in Paris. She's not ready for that life. If you allow your feelings to delude you they will.

That doesn't mean she can't be a good spouse. But she's not the woman a man called to ministry shoukd choose. She will distract him from the work because of her problems.
Sounds like he was the one meant for you all along. This is true. Help in which I cannot give or things would have been different already. She told me that God would provide a way for us, and I replied He will but right now I can't take care of you. I regret saying that. If I had a way right now, I am pretty sure it would have been different.

That's very interesting, I also ended up in that sector during the pandemic. Learned a good amount during it, but have dropped off now since I have no means to continue in it really. Not well off. Amen to that! The one who finds a wife finds a good thing. I have prayed so very hard for a wife. Yes I do. :) First I have ever heard a woman use that though in description of a ministry wife; that gave me a brief smile because that is so true. Thank you Bella for continuing to be so kind and open. I do not have anything to offer, but I will be praying for your family steadfastly when I get back to praying like normal. That blessings may abound for your husband, you and your daughter!


The emotions you feel are related to acceptance. You've been on the outside looking in. Don't allow this to progress. You'll only deepen your hurt.

~bella
Since this started August 29th pretty much everything has gone downhill since then, from my prayers/walk with God to my happiness. Especially, especially joy. I'm already depressed now. A month of joy to a month of depression. God will turn things to better when it is God's timing.
 
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This is no way to connect with a potential mate. You need to step away from this situation. It appears to me that none of the grown children could possibly get married and forge a life of their own with these unrealistic expectations and behavior from the parents. One is pushing 40 and still with mom and dad? Etc. Seriously, run. Do not become manipulated by this highly unhealthy behavior masquerading as Christianity. Pray for them and step out of that situation. :praying:
Thank you for your advice and help. I do believe there is nothing I can do but pray and ask for prayers. I'm overly exhausted and past my limits.
 
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