The Republican Governor of Ohio, Doesn't Recognize the Springfield that Trump and Vance Describe

[Stephen3141]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4890179-ohio-gop-governor-in-nyt-i-dont-recognize-the-springfield-that-trump-and-vance-describe/

Trump and Vance are BADLY misrepresenting the immigrant situation
in Springfield.

When Trump and Vance repeat emotional conspiracy theories, the result is
OFTEN NOT BENIGN.

Repeating baseless conspiracy theories, that blame certain people groups
of unsubstantiated behaviors, is INCITING people to engage in violence
against these groups. There is nothing Christian, or American, in this
disgusting repeating of conspiracy theories.

 

[Servus]

People need to stop talking about this. It's a conspiracy theory. Russian misinformation.

The governor of Ohio says "I don’t recognize the Springfield that Trump and Vance describe". But the actual residents of Springfield who have publicly commented on it seem to. They're the ones who started this 'rumor mill' in the first place.

 

[7thKeeper]

People need to stop talking about this. It's a conspiracy theory. Russian misinformation.

The governor of Ohio says "I don’t recognize the Springfield that Trump and Vance describe". But the actual residents of Springfield who have publicly commented on it seem to. They're the ones who started this 'rumor mill' in the first place.

The residents recognize cats and dogs being eaten? Funny how there's still no evidence of this.

 

[Servus]

The residents recognize cats and dogs being eaten? Funny how there's still no evidence of this.

They say there are a lot of problems occurring. Including deaths vehicular manslaughter deaths, one of whom was a child. The fixation on dogs and cats defects from actual documented incidences.

That's not a result of people being Haitians. It's a result of 20,000 people being thrust into a completely foreign environment with no cultural training.

 

[7thKeeper]

They say there are a lot of problems occurring. Including deaths vehicular manslaughter deaths, one of whom was a child. The fixation on dogs and cats defects from actual documented incidences.

Yes, that was a tragic accident. The child's parents hope that their child's death wouldn't he politicised. The other valid reasons are more to due to the increase in population, though it also offers more resources to deal with those as well.

That's not a result of people being Haitians. It's a result of 20,000 people being thrust into a completely foreign environment with no cultural training.

Well they weren't "thrust" into it. They left Haiti for the US and after the word got out among the community that there were jobs and cheap housing in Springfield, they began to move in after those. An opportunity available for everyone. For the cultural training, does anyone offer that readily?

 

[Servus]

Yes, that was a tragic accident. The child's parents hope that their child's death wouldn't he politicised. The other valid reasons are more to due to the increase in population, though it also offers more resources to deal with those as well.

Well they weren't "thrust" into it. They left Haiti for the US and after the word got out among the community that there were jobs and cheap housing in Springfield, they began to move in after those. An opportunity available for everyone. For the cultural training, does anyone offer that readily?

I doubt 20,000 separate job seeking individuals entered Springfield. There's probably several relatives each job seeking bread winner brought with him. As I recall in Finland and or nearby countries like Denmark cultural training is part of the immigration/migration/refugee process.

 

[7thKeeper]

I doubt 20,000 separate job seeking individuals entered Springfield. There's probably several relatives each job seeking bread winner brought with him. As I recall in Finland and or nearby countries like Denmark cultural training is part of the immigration/migration/refugee process.

They did. Over several years, as the word got around about the situation there, the Haitian community built up there.
And we are talking about the USA here, so the situation in other countries hardly matters in this case.

 

[Servus]

They did. Over several years, as the word got around about the situation there, the Haitian community built up there.
And we are talking about the USA here, so the situation in other countries hardly matters in this case.

The US needs reform like the countries that have established reform, instead of just letting people pour in willy nilly by the tens of millions. There needs to be a limit as to how many people are taken in daily and they need to be processed better.

 

[eleos1954]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4890179-ohio-gop-governor-in-nyt-i-dont-recognize-the-springfield-that-trump-and-vance-describe/

Trump and Vance are BADLY misrepresenting the immigrant situation
in Springfield.

When Trump and Vance repeat emotional conspiracy theories, the result is
OFTEN NOT BENIGN.

Repeating baseless conspiracy theories, that blame certain people groups
of unsubstantiated behaviors, is INCITING people to engage in violence
against these groups. There is nothing Christian, or American, in this
disgusting repeating of conspiracy theories.

Who decides what is or isn't a "conspiracy theory" ? There is no arbitrator of truth. Who are inciting people to engage in violence? Both political parties are guilty of this to varying degrees. We are left to try and discern these things for ourselves.

Deception is the work of the devil and often it takes time for deception to be exposed and we all fall for deceptions here and there ... it's the world we live in.

that blame certain people groups
of unsubstantiated behaviors

Are there certain people groups that have substantiated behaviors? Yes there are.

There are many "people groups" and some do indeed "group together" and promote nefarious things.

It's the world we live in ... and has been going on since the fall of Adam and Eve and will continue until the Lord returns.

We try to wade through the murky waters of deception.

 

[7thKeeper]

Who decides what is or isn't a "conspiracy theory" ? There is no arbitrator of truth.

Objective reality.

 

[eleos1954]

Objective reality.

In order for a perception to be objective it would have to be entirely devoid of any perspective. For a human, that is not possible because it is the human mind that perceives, and the mind IS a perspective. The mind is a subjective perspective.