Harris: ‘If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot’

[JosephZ]

“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot,” [Harris] said, laughing. “I probably should not have said that. My staff will deal with that later.”

“I think for far too long on the issue of gun violence, some people have been pushing a really false choice to say you’re either in favor of the Second Amendment or you want to take everyone’s guns away. I’m in favor of the second amendment, and I’m in favor of assault weapons bans, universal background checks, red flag laws,” Harris said, prompting Winfrey to ask about her gun ownership.

https://wgntv.com/news/politics/harris-if-somebody-breaks-into-my-house-theyre-getting-shot-during-event-with-oprah/

 

[Hammster]

So she’s now for Stand Your Ground?

 

[JosephZ]

So she’s now for Stand Your Ground?

Has she ever commented on stand your ground laws one way or the other in the past?

 

[Hammster]

Has she ever commented on stand your ground laws one way or the other in the past?

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[durangodawood]

So she’s now for Stand Your Ground?

Dont know. That principle is a lot broader than the particular situation she mentioned.

I'm glad she said what she did tho.

 

[JosephZ]

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Stand your ground laws in many cases apply to incidents that can take place inside and outside the home. Saying she will shoot someone who breaks into her house would fall under Castle Doctrine

Castle Doctrine Overview

The castle doctrine is a self-defense justification for the use of deadly force against an intruder in an individual's home. The doctrine may shield you from criminal prosecution – and sometimes civil liability – for shooting an unarmed trespasser. In most cases, you must reasonably believe that such physical force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. The individual claiming self-defense under the castle doctrine has the burden of proof.

Castle Doctrine vs. Stand-Your-Ground

Both the castle doctrine and stand-your-ground laws are affirmative defenses to criminal charges. Yet stand-your-ground laws are distinct from the castle doctrine. Stand-your-ground laws apply when you face a threat of violence in other locations, such as on a public street.

Stand your ground in many cases apply to incidents that can take place inside and outside the home. Saying she will shoot someone who breaks into her house would fall under Castle Doctrine

 

[Hammster]

Stand your ground laws in many cases apply to incidents that can take place inside and outside the home. Saying she will shoot someone who breaks into her house would fall under Castle Doctrine

Castle Doctrine Overview

All states have adopted some variation of this criminal law doctrine. The castle doctrine is different from "stand your ground" laws adopted by some states. It is not specifically invoked via statute but has developed over time through the Model Penal Code, case law, and precedent.

The castle doctrine is a self-defense justification for the use of deadly force against an intruder in an individual's home. The doctrine may shield you from criminal prosecution – and sometimes civil liability – for shooting an unarmed trespasser. In most cases, you must reasonably believe that such physical force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. The individual claiming self-defense under the castle doctrine has the burden of proof.

The principle is the same.

 

[public hermit]

“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot,” [Harris] said, laughing. “I probably should not have said that. My staff will deal with that later.”

“I think for far too long on the issue of gun violence, some people have been pushing a really false choice to say you’re either in favor of the Second Amendment or you want to take everyone’s guns away. I’m in favor of the second amendment, and I’m in favor of assault weapons bans, universal background checks, red flag laws,” Harris said, prompting Winfrey to ask about her gun ownership.

https://wgntv.com/news/politics/harris-if-somebody-breaks-into-my-house-theyre-getting-shot-during-event-with-oprah/

That's a significant thing for her to say. The fear mongering on the right about "They're going to take away our guns" needs to end. Like her, I also have guns and support those same policies.

She's doing a good job at chipping away at the usual talking points on the right. No wonder they're now going on about Haitians eating pets.

 

[durangodawood]

The all-or-nothing attitude toward gun regulation is absurd.

I strongly believe in an individual right to bear arms. But I hate the overall American casual attitude toward guns generally. And the de facto free for all is becoming intolerable.

 

[JosephZ]

The principle is the same.

I edited my comment after you made yours to add some more context. Below is the difference between castle doctrine and stand your ground laws:

Both the castle doctrine and stand-your-ground laws are affirmative defenses to criminal charges. Yet stand-your-ground laws are distinct from the castle doctrine. Stand-your-ground laws apply when you face a threat of violence in other locations, such as on a public street.

Stand your ground in many cases apply to incidents that can take place inside and outside the home. Saying she will shoot someone who breaks into her house would fall under Castle Doctrine

 

[Hammster]

I edited my comment after you made yours to add some more context. Below is the difference between castle doctrine and stand your ground laws:

Both the castle doctrine and stand-your-ground laws are affirmative defenses to criminal charges. Yet stand-your-ground laws are distinct from the castle doctrine. Stand-your-ground laws apply when you face a threat of violence in other locations, such as on a public street.

Stand your ground in many cases apply to incidents that can take place inside and outside the home. Saying she will shoot someone who breaks into her house would fall under Castle Doctrine

Again, it’s the same principle.

 

[Goonie]

Again, it’s the same principle.

No it is not. One says your home is your castle, the other says you are the castle.

 

[Bradskii]

That's a significant thing for her to say. The fear mongering on the right about "They're going to take away our guns" needs to end. Like her, I also have guns and support those same policies.

She's doing a good job at chipping away at the usual talking points on the right. No wonder they're now going on about Haitians eating pets.

I agree. It's a very smart move indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if she and her inner circle discussed that the matter of guns would come up and that she could actually say something like that. Including the 'Gee, maybe I shouldn't have said that' portion.

 

[public hermit]

I agree. It's a very smart move indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if she and her inner circle discussed that the matter of guns would come up and that she could actually say something like that. Including the 'Gee, maybe I shouldn't have said that' portion.

That makes sense. The fact she is adjusting her position on some things is attractive, too. It's not an ideology but an honest attempt to stick to one's values while also being practical and softening edges that might push those on the fence away. She doing politics, in other words. It's a relief to see that, actually.

 

[Bradskii]

That makes sense. The fact she is adjusting her position on some things is attractive, too. It's not an ideology but an honest attempt to stick to one's values while also being practical and softening edges that might push those on the fence away. She doing politics, in other words. It's a relief to see that, actually.

I'm not sure that it's an actual tactic. She does understand that all things are not black and white. That there are nuances and gray areas. And this is one example (although I think that bringing it out as she did was tactical). As she says, she supports the Second. She owns a gun. Walz is a gun nut, loves to hunt. She just wants sensible gun laws.

 

[Bradskii]

Seems to be working as well. It's triggering people like the distasteful Laura Loomer: Laura Loomer accuses Kamala Harris of 'hypocrisy' over gun remarks

'Loomer, who campaigns for Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, reposted what Harris said to her X account, however she edited Harris' words from "they're getting shot" to "they gon' get shot." Whether intentionally or not, Loomer quoted Harris as using African American Vernacular English (AAVE).

Loomer accused Harris of hypocrisy, claiming that Harris wants to "take away people's guns," but wants to keep her own.'

Yeah, sure. That makes perfect sense...

And the editing of Harris' words shows the type of woman she is into the bargain.

 

[Hammster]

No it is not. One says your home is your castle, the other says you are the castle.

Then stand your ground is even a better law. Your life is more important than your house.

 

[Bradskii]

Then stand your ground is even a better law. Your life is more important than your house.

'Your home is your castle' doesn't suggest that your life is less important than your house. It means that you are meant to be safe in your own house, so if someone tries, or succeeds in entering, you are allowed to use a weapon to protect yourself and family. You aren't protecting the house.

In any case, Harris does not want to stop people from doing that. As she explained, both she and Walz are gun owners.

 

[Servus]

Once again she has waffled. That's why this is in the news.

 

[BPPLEE]

I agree. It's a very smart move indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if she and her inner circle discussed that the matter of guns would come up and that she could actually say something like that. Including the 'Gee, maybe I shouldn't have said that' portion.

I'm sure, because she wouldn't have thought of it on her own